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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II:
The Sith Lords
FAQ/Walkthrough
(Xbox, PC)
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March 11, 2005
Version 1.3
Written by: Dan Simpson
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What's New in 1.3:
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Added the Dantooine Crystal Cave Kinrath cheat. Cleared up the walkthrough
at the very end, corrected my MAJOR mistake there and added an ending
spoiler for the curious. Added Mark Singer's Super-Uber-Ultra Sabre Cheat.
Added a question to the FAQ about returning to Dantooine and not getting
that to work. Added a note on buggy Swoop racing in the Glitches section.
Created a new section on creatable items. Added tinytroll's T3 trick in
the prologue section. Added Danijel's note on Force regen in the Cave on
Korriban. Added Andrew C. Blevins note on B-4D4. Added Kevin Scully's PC
Bugs information in its own section. Added the Kreia/Hanharr upgrade from
Gary Smith. Added the Heal/Attack at the same time glitch/cheat.
For a complete Version History, check out the Final Words Section at the end
of the FAQ.
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..:: Table of Contents ::..
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i. Before you Start Playing .................... :IBYSP:
ii. Creating your Exile > > > > > > > > > > > > > :IICYE:
... Classes ..................................... :DDDCL:
... Attributes & Stats > > > > > > > > > > > > >> :DDDST:
... Skills ...................................... :SKDDD:
... Feats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :FTSFD:
iii. Companions .................................. :IIICM:
iv. Developing your Characters > > > > > > > > >> :IVDYC:
... Powers ...................................... :DPDPW:
... Leveling Up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :DLVLD:
... Prestige Classes ............................ :DPRCD:
v. Power Playing Strategies > > > > > > > > > >> :PWPLS:
Puzzle Solutions ................................. :PUZLE:
Frequently Asked Questions > > > > > > > > > > > > :FRAQU:
Walkthrough ...................................... :WLKTH:
1. The Prologue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> :T3PRL:
2. Peragus ..................................... :PRAGS:
3. Telos - Citadel Station > > > > > > > > > > > :TLOSC:
4. Telos - Planetside .......................... :TLOSP:
5. Telos - Hidden Base > > > > > > > > > > > > > :TLOSH:
6. The Ebon Hawk ............................... :TEBHK:
7. Dantooine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :DNTIN:
8. Nar Shaddaa ................................. :NRSHD:
9. Post Nar Shaddaa Ebon Hawk > > > > > > > > >> :PNRSD:
10. Onderon / Dxun .............................. :ONDXN:
11. Korriban > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> :KRRBN:
12. Onderon Finale .............................. :ONDFN:
13. Dantooine Again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :DNAGN:
14. Telos - Hidden Base Again ................... :THBAA:
15. Telos - Citadel Station Again > > > > > > > > :TCSAN:
16. The Ravager ................................. :TRVGR:
17. Malachor V - Endgame > > > > > > > > > > > >> :MLCRV:
Tweaks, Exploits and Outright Cheats ............. :CHTSS:
Bugs, Glitches and Other Terrors > > > > > > > > > :FNBGS:
PC Guide to Bugs, Flaws and Game Performance ..... :PCFGP:
Creatable Items (Lab Station Only) ............... :CILSO:
Final Words ...................................... :FNLWD:
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i. Before you Start Playing... :IBYSP:
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Rule #1: Save often. In different slots.
Rule #2: Never save over the first save when you get to a new planet.
Especially Nar Shaddaa.
Rule #3: If you hit a glitch, don't panic. The usual solution is to reload
and try again.
Warning #1: Under no circumstances do you destroy the Console outside the
Bumani Exchange Corp. on Telos. LEAVE IT ALONE! If you destroy it
and kill the guards, you will make your game unwinnable.
Warning #2: Under no circumstances do you destroy ANY Utility Droids on
Goto's Yacht. (Only possible if you change the Droid protocols)
Leave them alone! In fact, don't ever use the Droid protocols.
If you destroy the first utility droid there without getting the
Shutdown code, you will make your game unwinnable.
You do not need to play Knights of the Old Republic 1 to enjoy this game. It
doesn't load up any of your old saves, or use the data from the first game in
any way. That said, I would recommend playing the first game as it is quite
an enjoyable game. (Although I like this one more) KotOR2 will ask you early
on how your KotOR1 game went, and you can set Revan as male/female and
light/dark.
Note: The game has gender confusion when Revan is a female. Many people,
Vrook seemed the worst, will forget and call Revan "him". I haven't
seen this happen in reverse. With Revan set to male, no one called
him a "her." (Although I've been told that happens too)
After a point, you can head to different planets in different orders. I
picked one that I liked the best and used it for the walkthrough. Feel free
to disagree and go to the others in any order you want. Bear in mind that the
difficulty of the fights (from numbers of opponents, to Vitality levels of
Bosses) is determined by your level. So, regardless, the game should stay
challenging enough no matter which way you go.
Quick Definitions:
KotOR2 - this game
STR - Strength
DEX - Dexterity
CON - Constitution
INT - Intelligence
WIS - Wisdom
CHA - Charisma
XP - Experience Point. The basic economic unit of the RPG is these bad boys,
not "credits."
LSP - Light Side Point. Any action that moves you towards the light side is
said to give you a Light Side Point. I use the abbreviation LSP. For
larger LSPs, I sometimes use the term 2xLSP (or even 3xLSP). This means
that you get more Light Side Points out of it.
DSP - Dark Side Point. Same.
INF - Influence. In the game you can influence your companions. It has two
effects, first, there alignment gets closer to yours; and second, they
will reveal more information about themselves and even give you bonuses.
In my conversatin trees, I use +INF+ to note gains in Influence, and
-INF- to note losses in Influence.
DC - Difficulty Class. Basically a number you have to reach to do something.
A lock might be a DC 15 lock, so your security skill has to be able to
hit a 15. (All skill rolls get a +1-20 + your skill level to beat a
DC) Also used for saving throws.
If you aren't in combat, you get the full 20+Skill Level on your DC
checks, so a DC 40 Recover Mine operation will require that you have a
total bonus of +20 yourself to recover that mine.
DEF - Defense, or how hard you are to hit. Starts at 10. You are hit when
they "roll" higher than your defense. (Attacks are on the same 1-20
random chance, plus they add their attack modifier, if they get over
your DEF, they hit) Armor and Dexterity improve this.
Max Dex Bonus - in armor, how much of your Dex bonus will stack with the
armor. An armor with a Max Dex bonus of +3 will allow only that. If you
have an 18 DEX (+4), then only +3 is used, the rest is wasted. Note,
however, that you still get your DEX for attack rolls (ranged and
finesse only) and for Reflex saves.
Critical Hit - in the "d20" system, attack rolls are figured by a 1 to 20
chance. If you get a "20" you get a critical hit. This usually does
double damage (x2). However, Critical Hit chances can be changed, both
by items and feats. Some weapons might have a Critical line that reads:
17-20 / x3. This means you critical on a 17 to 20 (a 20% chance), and
do triple damage.
Swag - another name for treasures, items, booty, shinies, junk, and other
things that you'll pick up. Since most of the items you'll find are
randomly determined by the game, and you'll get different things every
time you play, I can't really say what you'll get (except in some
specific instances). So, I use the old pirate terms. Arrh.
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ii. Creating your Exile :IICYE:
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The "Exile" is your character, in addition to whatever you name him/her.
There are 3 main "classes" you can take, each with a male/female option.
Jedi Sentinel makes for a good solid choice, good offense, lots of skills
and lots of feats and average power selection. Jedi Guardian gets more
vitality, but less skills and one more feat, while Jedi Consulars get only
Force Powers in any great amount. Now, for more details...
Male/Female:
In many games, this is largely an aesthetic choice. What would you rather
look at for a few dozen hours. However, in KoTOR2, there is one major effect
of this choice, the difference in whether you can pick up the Handmaiden
character or the Disciple character. If you are a male, you get Handmaiden,
if you are female you get Disciple. There is no other particular change,
besides who flirts with you, and Kreia's reactions to you, however.
Note: There is one more companion option like this, but unlike this one,
you can affect who you get after you start. You get Mira if you are
Light/Neutral and Hanharr if you are Dark Side.
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... Classes :DDDCL:
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Note: All classes have the same ability "To Hit" (Base Attack Bonus). From
Tech Specialist, to Jedi Guardian, they all gain 1 point per level.
Jedi Guardian
10 Vitality / Level
1 skill point / level
4 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Armor Proficiency (Light)
Armor Proficiency (Medium)
Critical Strike
Flurry
Power Attack
Power Blast
Rapid Shot
Sniper Shot
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Pistol)
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Rifle)
Weapon Proficiency (Lightsaber)
Weapon Proficiency (Melee Weapon)
Jedi Defense
Force Jump
Jedi Sense
War Veteran
Class Skills:
Awareness
Demolitions
Persuade
Treat Injury
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 2 1 2 1 2
2 3 3 2 2 1 1
3 3 3 2 2 1 1
4 4 4 2 2 0 1
5 4 4 3 2 1 1
6 5 5 3 4 0 1
7 5 5 4 4 1 1
8 6 6 4 4 0 1
9 6 6 4 4 1 1
10 7 7 5 4 0 1
11 7 7 5 4 1 1
12 8 8 6 6 0 1
13 8 8 6 6 1 1
14 9 9 6 6 0 1
15 9 9 7 6 1 1
16 10 10 7 6 0 1
17 10 10 8 6 1 1
18 11 11 8 8 0 1
19 11 11 8 8 1 1
20 12 12 9 8 0 1
...etc. ===
11 feats by level 20 * Possibly wrong, need
comfirmation
Jedi Sentinel
8 Vitality / Level
3 skill points / level
6 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Armor Proficiency (Light)
Critical Strike
Flurry
Power Attack
Power Blast
Rapid Shot
Sniper Shot
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Pistol)
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Rifle)
Weapon Proficiency (Lightsaber)
Weapon Proficiency (Melee Weapon)
Jedi Defense
Force Immunity (Fear)
Jedi Sense
War Veteran
Class Skills:
Awareness
Computer Use
Persuade
Security
Stealth
Treat Injury
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 2 1 2 1 2
2 3 3 2 2 0 1
3 3 3 2 2 1 1
4 4 4 2 2 0 1
5 4 4 3 2 0 1
6 5 5 3 4 1 1
7 5 5 4 4 1 1
8 6 6 4 4 0 1
9 6 6 4 4 1 1
10 7 7 5 4 0 1
11 7 7 5 4 0 1
12 8 8 6 6 1 1
13 8 8 6 6 1 1
14 9 9 6 6 0 1
15 9 9 7 6 1 1
16 10 10 7 6 0 1
17 10 10 8 6 0 1
18 11 11 8 8 1 1
19 11 11 8 8 1 1
20 12 12 9 8 0 1
...etc. ===
10 feats by level 20
Jedi Consular
6 Vitality / Level
2 skill points / level
8 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Armor Proficiency (Light)
Critical Strike
Flurry
Power Attack
Power Blast
Rapid Shot
Sniper Shot
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Pistol)
Weapon Proficiency (Blaster Rifle)
Weapon Proficiency (Lightsaber)
Weapon Proficiency (Melee Weapon)
Jedi Defense
Force Focus
Jedi Sense
War Veteran
Class Skills:
Awareness
Persuade
Repair
Treat Injury
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 1 2 2 1 2
2 3 2 3 2 0 1
3 3 2 3 2 1 2
4 4 2 4 2 0 1
5 4 3 4 2 0 1
6 5 3 5 4 1 2
7 5 4 5 4 0 1
8 6 4 6 4 0 1
9 6 4 6 4 1 2
10 7 5 7 4 0 1
11 7 5 7 4 0 1
12 8 6 8 6 1 2
13 8 6 8 6 0 1
14 9 6 9 6 0 1
15 9 7 9 6 1 2
16 10 7 10 6 0 1
17 10 8 10 6 0 1
18 11 8 11 8 1 2
19 11 8 11 8 0 1
20 12 9 12 8 0 1
...etc. ===
7 feats by level 20
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... Attributes & Stats :DDDST:
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The physical and mental abilities of your character. There are two numbers
for each stat, the raw score and the modifier. The raw score starts at 8
for each stat, which means the modifier for each stat begins at -1.
modifier = (raw stat - 10) / 2
The modifier is what we really care about, as that gets added to everything.
Your stats at the beginning of the game are just that, the beginning. They
get raised by you every 4 levels starting at level 4. Equipable items can
also raise your stats, and items/force powers can boost your stats
temporarily. Also, your companions can help you raise your stats, especially
HK-47.
When you get a "bonus" from a stat, it uses the modifier. So, someone with
an 18 DEX gets a +4 to his stealth.
You get 30 points to spend on stats. However, as your stat gets higher, it
takes more points to raise the stat as indicated below. 18 is the limit at
level 1.
Stat Costs:
8 - 14 - 1 point = 1 stat point increase
15- 16 - 2 points = 1 stat point increase
17- 18 - 3 points = 1 stat point increase
Note: Stat increases from level ups (at level 4, 8, 12, etc.) are not
weighted. You can raise from 17 to 18 with one point then. But you
must spend all your points at the beginning of the game. No saving
them for the better rates later.
Because higher raw scores are really point intensive, it isn't recommended
that you go higher than 16 at level one. And if I did take a 16 (and I do)
I would only take one, and keep the points for other things. You'll have
higher total stats if you avoid really high numbers in any one thing.
Here are the stats:
Strength
Affects only melee/lightsaber damage as well as ability to hit with
same. That is all it affects. A must-have for light-side characters as
they have very few damaging force powers (none if you aren't fighting
droids). I'd recommend starting with 15. Then at level 4 put another
point here.
If you use Two Weapon fighting, your full STR modifier is used to
determine damage on your main hand, but only half your STR modifier
is used for the offhand attack. However, if you use a Double-bladed
weapon, you get one and a half times your STR modifier on the main hand
and half on the offhand.
Dexterity
Increases your Defense, ability to hit with ranged weapons (you can use
your Dexterity in melee/lightsaber if you take a Feat to do so) and
bonus to Reflex saves. Finally adds a bonus to your Stealth skill.
Dexterity is useful, yes, but you don't need it. You're going to take
hits, and a +1 or +2 bonus to defense isn't worth putting the points
here. Besides, the best defense of all is killing them before they
even hit you. I'd go with a 10 here.
Note: If you want to play a "Total Defensive" character, check out the
Power Strategies section below for a good idea on this type of
character.
Constitution
Gives a bonus to Vitality for every level you have, as well as a
bonus to your Fortitude save. Also, new in KoTOR2, Constitution,
rather than feats, determine what type of Implants you can get. To get
the best implants you need an 18 Constitution. I'd start with a 14.
You should get this to 18 by the end, by you can get most of the
increase through companion dialogues.
Note: If your Constitution is boosted by an item to 18 or more, you
are still limited by your ACTUAL Constitution score with
regard to what implants you can get. Oh well.
Intelligence
Bonus to many skills: Computer Use, Demolitions, Repair, Security as
well as a bonus to the number of skill points you start with and get
at each level. Also, there are dialogue options in the game that will
only trigger with a higher intelligence. Unlike Constitution, you don't
gain skill points retroactively when your Intelligence goes up, giving
you more of an incentive to take Intelligence early. Finally there are
fewer items that raise Intelligence than any other stat, thus, I would
take a 16 here.
Note: You do not gain more skill points/level with a BOOSTED INT, it
only uses your ACTUAL INT.
Dialogue options, however, will appear no matter how you got
your smarts.
No matter how low your INT, you will always gain 1 skill point
per level
Wisdom
Bonus to Will Saves, Defense (if you get Handmaiden to train you),
skills (Awareness, Treat Injury) and your Force Powers will be more
difficult to resist. Additionally, there are dialogue options that only
appear with a high Wisdom. At low levels, your Force Powers can really
use the boost, however, at high levels, your Force Powers generally get
more of a boost from levels than anything else. So, I'd skip it, and
take a 10 here.
Male characters can learn a special feat from the Handmaiden allowing
them to add their WIS BONUS to their DEF.
Charisma
Bonus to Force Powers (the same as Wisdom, and they stack), improves
abilities with opposite aligned force powers (reduces cost), bonus to
skill (Persuasion) and probably dialogue options, but I can't prove it.
Decent to have, but again, you don't need it as much as you need other
things at level one. I'd take a 10 here as well.
Counterpoint: Charisma also adds a significant bonus to your allies
"To Hit" rating, about twice your Charisma modifier. Also it reduces the
costs in casting Force Powers opposed to your own alignment. Useful if
you want a Light Sided Consular who can use Force Lightning.
In-Game Upgrades
Throughout the course of the game, there are opportunities to get
free increases to your Attributes:
+1 WIS - T3's final upgrade
+1 CON, +1 WIS - Hanharr's upgrades
+2 STR, +1 CON - Kreia's post-Hanharr upgrades
So, if you followed my advice, you now have:
STR > 15 > +2
DEX > 10 > 0
CON > 14 > +2
INT > 16 > +3 (or 14 INT)
WIS > 10 > 0 (or 12 WIS)
CHA > 10 > 0 (or 12 CHA)
A straight up fighter should do...
STR > 17 > +3
DEX > 12 > +1
CON > 17 > +3
INT > 8 > -1
WIS > 8 > -1
CHA > 8 > -1
Put one point into CON early, then STR the rest of the way. Of course,
you'll never be skilled, and your force powers will be easy to resist.
With this character, I would avoid those Force Powers that are affected
by armor, take the Armor Proficiency: Heavy, and just focus on hitting
things with a Lightsaber.
A Consular might try: Or:
STR > 12 > +1 STR > 8 > -1
DEX > 12 > +1 DEX > 14 > +2
CON > 14 > +2 CON > 14 > +2
INT > 14 > +2 INT > 14 > +2
WIS > 14 > +2 WIS > 14 > +2
CHA > 12 > +1 CHA > 14 > +2
Consulars need WIS and CHA. These help their Force Powers, and add to
their Force Points.
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Basic abilities outside of combat. This involves using items like computer
consoles, repairing droids and dialogue options. Even Repair can be a
dialogue option.
At level 1, you get (INT MOD x 4) + Class in skill points. So, our Jedi
Sentinel with 16 INT gets 24 skill points, or enough to put the full 4
points into each of his/her six class skills.
Class Skills are taking at a point for point rate, while all other skills
are taken at a 2 point for point rate. Obviously not terribly efficient to
go cross class. There are feats you can take to add class skills. Also,
prestige classes, listed later, have different class skills.
The maximum amount you can put into a skill is your Level + 3, so at level 1
you can only have 4 points in any one skill. For cross-class skills, the
max is half that, or at level one, 2 points in any one skill.
All skills except Persuade are useful in creating items from components or
chemicals. The game uses the skills of whoever uses the workbench to decide
what you can make.
Repair is used to break down items into components, however, only the
Exile (you) can do it. No matter who uses the workbench, it uses the Exile's
abilities to determine how many components you get.
In parenthesis, I put the stat involved with the skill. These stats boost
your skill by the modifier.
Computer Use (INT)
The ability to "slice" computers, as well as diagnose problems relating
to computers, and occasionally droids. Very nice to have, but you will
usually have a droid or Bao-Dur around to handle this for you. I'd still
keep it up, but not a priority.
Demolitions (INT)
The ability to set, disable, or recover mines. Very useful to have. Some
doors and containers can ONLY be opened by putting a mine on them. Also,
recovering mines gives you a small amount of EXPERIENCE. A moderate need,
but I wouldn't go much past 10 or 12 points in it ever. Anything more than
that is probably pointless.
Stealth (DEX)
Really only useful to avoid combat, so I typically avoid it. There are a
couple situations that require stealth, but those can be handled by
anyone, and some of your companions start with stealth. I'd avoid it.
Awareness (WIS)
Ability to spot Mines, as well as used in dialogues to notice something
out of the ordinary. I've noticed that even at a very small level,
I found most mines and still got the dialogue options. A small need here,
but keep up with it.
Persuade (CHA)
The one skill that only the Exile can do, and it is a MUST have, unless
you don't like talking. Even if I played a dumb as dirt, kill-em-all
type, I'd still take persuade. The one skill to always keep up on.
Gives more dialogue options than any single other thing, improves
relations with companions, gives better rewards, and gets people to see
things your way.
Repair (INT)
Used to repair droids, computers, and similar. Occasionally comes up in
dialogues. For droids (not you), affects how much vitality they recover
from using Repair kits. Also, as noted above, affects how many components
you recover from breaking down items. This is important, as only the
Exile can break down items. Technically anyone can use a workbench to
do this, but it uses the Exile's skills. This is ONLY the case when
breaking down items. When creating items, the skill of whomever is using
the workbench is used. But when breaking down, the Exile's Repair skill is
used. Trust me, you can get more than 1 component for most items.
Note: At 20 points of TOTAL Repair (Repair Ranks + INT modifier) you
break down items with total efficiency, meaning you break down items
to the exact amount of components it takes to make that item.
SPOILER
The only time someone else can break down items is when the Exile isn't in
the party. Such as the raid on Freedon Nadd's tomb on Dxun, or when T3,
Mira or Hanharr are all alone. Although T3 is never near a workbench
when alone.
Note: I have heard from others that they don't get this problem, that
the skills of whomever uses the workbench are used. Your mileage
may vary.
Security (INT)
Ability to open up locked doors and containers. You can use Security
Tunnelers on doors to temporarily boost your skill here. Very nice.
Also, you get EXPERIENCE by opening doors/containers with Security,
while you DON'T get experience by bashing/using a lightsaber. You really
need this, that or keep someone on hand who can do it for you.
Treat Injury (WIS)
Increases amount healed from Medpacs, as well as some dialogue options
(though not too many). Not critical, but if you're dark side you might
consider this more than light side, as dark siders can't Heal as
efficiently with the Force.
Also, as with Repair, the Exile's skill with Treat Injury is used when
breaking down items regardless of who uses the lab station.
So, I created a Jedi Sentinel with a 16 INT, and came up with these skills:
Computer Use: 4 points
Demolitions: 1 points (cross-class)
Stealth: 0 points
Awareness: 4 points
Persuade: 4 points
Repair: 1 points (cross-class)
Security: 4 points
Treat Injury: 4 points
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24 points total
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... Feats :FTSFD:
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The (mostly) combat abilities in the game. Although there are some that
increase skill bonuses, some that make certain skills Class-skills, and
some that just help out.
Feat chains are feats that require that you take the first one to take the
second to take the third. I list the second and third of these with a >
underneath their original feat.
I will *** the Feats that I would recommend that you get at level one.
Several feats will be ***, however, you only get one feat. Choose depending
on what you want your character to be. I'll list other good feats in the
Developing Your Character section later.
There are advanced feats that come from Prestige classes, and these will
be listed in the Developing your Character section.
Two Weapon Fighting - no requirements
Reduces penalty to fighting with two weapons (melee, lightsaber or
ranged, it doesn't matter) to -4/-6
> Improved Two Weapon Fighting - Level 4 ***
Reduces penalty to -2/-4
> Master Two Weapon Fighting - Level 8
Reduces penalty to 0/-2
Armor Proficiency (Light) - no requirements
Allows you to wear Light armors. The other feats allow the same.
> Armor Proficiency (Medium)
> Armor Proficiency (Heavy)
Caution - no requirements
Gives a +1 to both Demolitions and Stealth. To use a skill, you still
need to put a point into that skill. Taking the next two feats in this
chain increase the bonus to +2 and +3 respectively.
> Improved Caution - Level 4
> Master Caution - Level 8
Critical Strike - Melee/Lightsaber only, no requirements
When used, you take a -5 penalty to your DEFENSE, you get a doubled
Critical Hit chance, and a chance to stun your opponent for 6 seconds
(DC = Level + STR MOD).
> Improved Critical Strike - Level 4
Same as above, but with a tripled Critical Hit chance.
> Master Critical Strike - Level 8
Same as above, but with a quadrupled Critical Hit chance.
Empathy - no requirements
Gives a +1 to Persuade, Awareness and Treat Injury. The later feats in
this chain increase this to a +2 and a +3 respectively.
> Improved Empathy - Level 4
> Master Empathy - Level 8
Flurry - Melee/Lightsaber only, no requirements
When used, grants an extra attack at a -2 penalty to Defense and a -4
penalty to all attack rolls (not damage).
> Improved Flurry - Level 4
Same as above, but a -1 penalty to Defense and a -2 penalty to attacks.
> Master Flurry - Level 8
Same as above, but with no penalties
Gearhead - no requirements
Gives a +1 to Repair, Security and Computer Use. Later feats in this
chain change this to a +2 and +3 respectively.
> Improved Gearhead - Level 4
> Master Gearhead - Level 8
Conditioning - no requirements
Gives a +1 bonus to all saving throws. Later feats in this chain
change this to a +2 and a +3 respectively.
> Improved Conditioning - Level 4
> Master Conditioning - Level 8
Power Attack - Melee/Lightsaber only
When used, increases damage by +3 while decreasing the attack chance to
hit by -3. Also increases the critical multiplier by +1, and gives a
chance for a Knockback (DC = Level + 2 x STR MOD).
> Improved Power Attack - Level 4
As above, but increases damage to +7.
> Master Power Attack - Level 8
As above, but increases damage to +12
Power Blast - Ranged only
Exactly the same as Power Attack, but with ranged weapons (Blasters).
> Improved Power Blast - Level 4
> Master Power Blast - Level 8
Rapid Shot - Ranged only
Exactly the same as Flurry, but with ranged weapons (Blasters).
> Improved Rapid Shot - Level 4
> Master Rapid Shot - Level 8
Sniper Shot - Ranged only
Exactly the same as Critical Strike, but with ranged weapons (Blasters).
> Improved Sniper Shot - Level 4
> Master Sniper Shot - Level 8
Weapon Proficiency (XYZ) - where XYZ is the weapon in question.
Allows you to use that weapon.
> Weapon Focus (XYZ)
Gives a +1 attack bonus to hit with that weapon.
> Weapon Specialization (XYZ) - Soldier, Jedi Guardian or Sith Marauder
Gives a +2 damage bonus with that weapon.
Jedi Defense - Jedi classes only
Blaster Deflection becomes possible. Basically an opposed attack roll,
where if you roll higher, you don't get hit by a blaster. If you beat
their roll by 10 or more, you deflect the bolt back at them. Can only be
done if you are holding a lightsaber.
> Advanced Jedi Defense - Jedi classes only, level 4
Adds a +3 bonus to deflection rolls.
> Master Jedi Defense - Jedi classes only, level 8
Adds a +6 bonus to deflection rolls. Replaces Advanced Jedi Defense.
Toughness - no requirements ***
Adds +1 vitality/level. Works retroactive too, so you can take this
whenever and get the same benefit.
> Improved Toughness - Level 4
Reduces 10% of damage, whenever you get hit for 20 or more. Which will be
often.
> Master Toughness - Level 8
Adds another +1 vitality/level.
Force Immunity (Fear, Stun, Paralysis) - Jedi Sentinel ONLY, gained
automatically at levels 6 and 12
Jedi Sense - Jedi only, gained automatically at level 1
Improves Defense by +2 every 6 levels. (7, 13, 19, 25, 31...)
Prestige Sense - Jedi Master / Sith Lord automatic
Improves Defense by +2 every 8 levels
Greater Prestige Sense - Prestige Class, not Jedi Master or Sith Lord
Improves Defense by +2 every 5 levels
Dueling - no requirements
Adds +1 to hit and +1 to defense when using only one weapon. Works with
all weapons and forms of combat, including unarmed. The later feats in
this chain increase the bonuses to +2 and +3 respectively.
> Improved Dueling - Level 4
> Master Dueling - Level 8
Close Combat - Level 4
With a ranged weapon, you get +1 to hit at short range, while enemies
in melee with you only get a +4 instead of the +6 bonus to hit.
> Improved Close Combat - Level 8
You get a +2 to hit in close range, and reduce enemies chances to hit
you in melee to a mere +2.
Regenerate Force Points - Level 4, Jedi only
Regain force points more rapidly.
Regenerate Vitality Points - Level 4
Regain vitality more rapidly
Class Skill (XYZ) - no requirements ***
Turns a non-class skill (XYZ) into a class skill.
Dual Strike - no requirements
You get a +2 bonus to attack an enemy that someone else in your party is
also attacking. This increases to +4 and +6 when you take the next two
feats in this chain.
> Improved Dual Strike - Level 4
> Master Dual Strike - Level 8
Finesse:(either Lightsaber/Melee)
Use your DEX rather than STR in giving a bonus to hit. This does not
affect damage, which always comes from STR.
Stealth Run - Level 4
Run while stealthed. Beats walking.
Precise Shot I - Level 4
Each feat in this chain provides a bonus of +1 damage with ranged weapons
and reduces enemy blaster bolt deflection by -2. By Precise Shot III
the damage bonus increases to +2 per each feat on this chain.
> Precise Shot II - Level 8
> Precise Shot III - Level 12
> Precise Shot IV - Level 16
> Precise Shot V - Level 20
So, my Jedi Sentinel would take Class Skill (Demolitions) at level 1, and
take Class Skill (Repair) the next time he gets a feat. Why? Skills are
important. And taking Class Skill early is also important.
A Jedi Guardian would probably want Two Weapon Fighting, while a Consular
should probably take Toughness. That vitality adds up.
Bear in mind, that even with "Two Weapon Fighting," you probably shouldn't
use two weapons until you get "Improved Two Weapon Fighting"... you just
won't hit anything.
I would also avoid using any of the combat feats (Flurry, Power Attack, etc.)
until later levels as you need every + to hit that you can, and you have none
to spare. They're very powerful later, but harder to manage at low levels.
It is the same idea as why we avoid Two Weapon Fighting until the Improved
version comes along.
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Quick Reference:
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Name Location
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Kreia - Peragus
Atton Rand - Peragus
T3-M4 - Prologue, Peragus
Handmaiden - Telos, Hidden Base - Male characters ONLY
Disciple - Dantooine, Enclave Sublevel - Female characters ONLY
Visas Marr - Ebon Hawk - after getting 1/4 to light or dark side, watch her
movie with Darth Nihilous, then the next time you enter your
ship, she'll be in the Starboard passenger compartment. Defeat
her and she's yours.
Mandalore - Dxun/Onderon
G0-T0 - Nar Shaddaa
Mira - Nar Shaddaa - requires that you be Light side or Neutral. If you
get Mira, then you cannot get Hanharr.
Hanharr - Nar Shaddaa - requires that you be Dark Side. If you get Hanharr
then you cannot get Mira.
HK-47 - Ebon Hawk - requires that you find 4 missing HK components,
then repair. (This doesn't require Skill)
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Jedi Notes: You can turn Atton, Bao-Dur, Disciple, Handmaiden and Mira to
Jedi. This mostly just requires good Influence with them, but
they have unique requirements as well:
Atton - Learn his secret at Nar Shaddaa, then talk to him
about his past.
Bao-Dur - Influence, then talk to him.
Disciple - Talk to him, say the right things.
Handmaiden - Spar and win against her three times.
Mira - Influence, then take her to Nar Shaddaa, near the
Cantina.
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In-Depth:
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Kreia.......................................................................
. Automatically joins at Peragus, after the Dormitory level. .
. .
. Jedi Consular -- Level 3 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 10 0 Vitality 36 Stealth 5 Burst of Speed .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 49 Awareness 6 Energy Resistance .
. CON 16 +3 Defense 16 Persuade 5* Force Camouflage .
. INT 14 +2 Fortitude 6 Treat Injury 6 Fear .
. WIS 16 +3 Reflex 5 Force Push .
. CHA 12 +1 Will 6 .
. .
. Feats: Dueling, Class Skill (Stealth), Finesse (Melee Weapons), .
. Mentor**, Force Chain*** .
. .
. * Kreia has Persuade, but it can't be raised .
. ** Mentor increases experience gained while she is in party .
. *** Force Chain shares force powers with the Exile .
. .
. Kreia has better attributes than you can get, and is a powerful user of .
. the Force. With her Force Chain ability, every power she uses on .
. herself, is used on your character as well. Because of this I typically .
. use her in a support role, placing her AI on "Jedi Support." She also .
. does really well with other offensive Force Powers. She is always .
. Neutral, and because of this she can use both Light and Dark side .
. powers equally well. However, I typically only advance her up the .
. "Insanity" chain, then keep working on the "buffing" type powers, like .
. Speed, Aura, and Energy Resistance. .
. .
. Altough Kreia is the only character immune to your Influence (that is .
. her alignment stays Neutral), you can sometimes alter her alignment .
. by having her initiate dialogue instead of your main character. I've .
. heard that Jorran (Nar Shaddaa) in particular works. .
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Atton.......................................................................
. Automatically joins at Peragus, after the Dormitory level. .
. .
. Scoundrel -- Level 3 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 12 +1 Vitality 24 Computer Use 3 none .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Demolitions 4 .
. CON 14 +2 Defense 19 Stealth 4 .
. INT 10 0 Fortitude 5* Awareness 5 .
. WIS 10 0 Reflex 8* Security 5 .
. CHA 12 +1 Will 3* .
. .
. Feats: Sneak Attack I & II, Scoundrel's Luck**, Survival***, Spirit# .
. .
. * Saves listed here inclued Atton's bonus from his armor (+2) .
. ** Defensive bonus, +2 at level 1, extra +2 at levels divisible by 6 .
. *** Increases Atton's saves as he loses Vitality .
. # When knocked out, there is chance that Atton will get back up .
. .
. Atton is a scoundrel now, with an option to become a Jedi Sentinal .
. later. This brings up the point that the less scoundrel levels you add, .
. the more Jedi levels you can get later. This is the basic "Hold Levels" .
. tactic, since you don't have to level your people up at any time. You .
. lose the Scoundrel abilities when you do this, such as Sneak Attack, .
. but it isn't that big a deal. .
. .
. Atton becomes a Jedi Sentinal only after you have visited Nar Shaddaa, .
. and talked to the men who know his secret in the Refugee Sector. Then .
. you talk to Atton about it, and if your Influence with him is high .
. enough, you get the option to turn him to a Jedi. .
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T3..........................................................................
. Solo missions in the Prologue and early Peragus, joins after the .
. Harbinger events. .
. .
. Expert Droid -- Level 3 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 10 0 Vitality 30 Computer Use 6 none .
. DEX 15 +2 Force 0 Demolitions 2 .
. CON 14 +2 Defense 17 Awareness 2 .
. INT 16 +3 Fortitude 3 Repair 6 .
. WIS 10 0 Reflex 5 Security 6 .
. CHA 10 0 Will 1 .
. .
. Feats: Gearhead, Caution .
. Items: Whatever he had when you last saw him. .
. .
. T3 can make Computer Spikes forever, but will only make them if you .
. have less than 11 in your inventory. T3 can also act as a workbench, .
. but only to upgrade items, not to create or breakdown items. .
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Bao-Dur.....................................................................
. Found after Telos Citadel Station .
. .
. Tech Specialist -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 14 +2 Vitality 48 Computer Use 9 none .
. DEX 10 0 Force 0 Demolitions 9 .
. CON 14 +2 Defense 10 Stealth 1 .
. INT 15 +2 Fortitude 5 Awareness 8 .
. WIS 14 +2 Reflex 4 Repair 9 .
. CHA 10 0 Will 6 Security 9 .
. Treat Injury 4 .
. .
. Feats: Gearhead, Improved Gearhead, Conditioning, Shield Breaker* .
. Items: Nothing .
. .
. * Shield Breaker works to remove shields around opponents, when using .
. no weapon (hand to hand only). .
. .
. Bao-Dur can make Energy Shields, up to a point. He will only make them .
. if there aren't too many of (Energy + Mandalorian Melee) in inventory. .
. .
. If you want to take Bao-Dur to a Jedi later, don't spend any skill .
. points cross class, just save them up every level. They'll come in .
. handy later. Also, don't take him much past level 12 as a Tech. You can .
. use the skills, but he'll survive better as a Jedi. If you really don't .
. need skills (either the Exile or T3 will do), then hold his level at .
. SIX until he turns Jedi. .
. .
. Turning Bao-Dur to a Jedi just takes Influence. Once you start getting .
. some with him, keep talking to him until a dialogue appears that .
. starts: .
. .
. Having you here has an effect on me, General. .
. .
. Just follow the dialogue, the choices don't matter, until you get the .
. offer to train him. Accept and he becomes a Jedi Guardian, which is .
. good because Tech Specialists have no DEF bonus. You don't need to be .
. Light Side to get him to become a Jedi, but most of his positive +INF+ .
. actions are Light Sided in nature. .
. .
. Bao-Dur cannot wear Jedi Robes. Even if you want him to keep fighting .
. Unarmed, he will be as many levels behind in that feat tree as he has .
. Tech levels, the two won't stack in determining which Unarmed feat he .
. gets. .
. .
. Bao-Dur becomes a Jedi Guardian. .
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Handmaiden..................................................................
. Found immediately after leaving Telos - Hidden Jedi Base .
. --Male characters ONLY-- .
. .
. Soldier -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 14 +2 Vitality 78 Stealth 5 none .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 8 .
. CON 14 +2 Defense 16 Treat Injury 8 .
. INT 10 0 Fortitude 8 .
. WIS 10 0 Reflex 6 .
. CHA 14 +2 Will 3 .
. .
. Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Improved .
. Power Attack, Toughness, Improved Toughness, Conditioning, .
. Echani Strike* .
. Items: Clothing .
. .
. * Echani Strike is Handmaiden's special feat. It adds 1-4 damage to her .
. unarmed melee attacks, plus a 10% knockdown chance (DC 15 + Level) .
. .
. Handmaiden can become a Jedi Guardian later, with the proper influence, .
. so you may want to hold off on leveling her up until then. Soldiers and .
. Jedi Guardians are very similar, so you lose nothing by holding her .
. levels. You turn her to a Jedi by getting her Influence up, sparring .
. with her on three separate occasions, when you are at least level 10, .
. 14 and 18, and commenting on the clothes you make her put on after .
. sparring to learn of her mother. Then learn more of her mother from .
. Kreia, follow that up with Handmaiden and she'll accept your training. .
. .
. Handmaiden becomes a Jedi Guardian. .
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Visas.......................................................................
. Found after going light/dark when re-entering the Ebon Hawk .
. .
. Jedi Sentinal -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 12 +1 Vitality 30 Stealth 9 Energy Resistance .
. DEX 18 +4 Force 24 Awareness 9 Wound .
. CON 12 +1 Defense 18 Treat Injury 9 Fear > Horror .
. INT 10 0 Fortitude 6 Shock .
. WIS 12 +1 Reflex 9 Force Push .
. CHA 15 +2 Will 4 .
. .
. Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Flurry, Weapon Focus (Lightsaber) .
. Items: Clothing .
. .
. Visas is the second -- and final -- character you get who is already a .
. Jedi when she joins. Her DEX is her best attribute, but you'll have to .
. even out her CHA first. Give her Weapon Finesse: Lightsaber to take .
. advantage of her vastly better DEX in combat. She does well with .
. offensive force powers, and is already quite far along in the Dark .
. Side. In order to really be effective in close combat, she'll need to .
. pick up the Toughness feats, as she lacks Vitality. .
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Disciple....................................................................
. Found in the Dantooine Enclave Sublevel .
. --Female characters only-- .
. .
. Soldier -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 14 +2 Vitality 78 Stealth 5 none .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 8 .
. CON 14 +2 Defense 15 Treat Injury 8 .
. INT 10 0 Fortitude 8 .
. WIS 10 0 Reflex 6 .
. CHA 14 +2 Will 3 .
. .
. Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Close Combat, .
. Toughness, Improved Toughness .
. Items: Clothing .
. .
. Disciple, who only joins female main characters, is almost a twin to .
. the Handmaiden. However, unlike her, he goes from Soldier to Jedi .
. Consular, while she becomes a Guardian. Disciple is the easiest to .
. convert to a Jedi, and can be done at any time by simply talking to .
. him and saying the "right" things. He is naive and generally good, .
. and so long as you like the Republic, you'll get along fine. .
. .
. Disciple becomes a Jedi Consular. .
. .
. Disciple can act as a Lab Station at any time, and can also make .
. Medpacs when you are on the Ebon Hawk. .
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Mira........................................................................
. Found at Nar Shaddaa, just before meeting Visquis .
. --only for Light/Neutral characters, Dark Siders get Hanharr instead)-- .
. .
. Scout -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 10 0 Vitality 54 Computer Use 8 none .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Demolitions 8 .
. CON 12 +1 Defense 19 Awareness 8 .
. INT 14 +2 Fortitude 6 Repair 8 .
. WIS 11 0 Reflex 8 Security 2 .
. CHA 10 0 Will 5 Treat Injury 5 .
. .
. Feats: Caution, Uncanny Dodge I, Dueling, Evasion, Targeting I & II, .
. Close Combat, Point Guard*, Precise Shot I .
. Items: Mira's Ballistic Mesh Jacket (+5 DEF, resist melee 5/-), Wrist .
. Launcher .
. .
. * When Mira is in the lead, the party cannot set off mines .
. .
. Mira is the final character who can become a Jedi. Like the others this .
. is largely a question of Influence. The absolute best way to gain .
. Influence with Mira is through her "Why don't you kill" dialogue, IF .
. YOU HAVE AT LEAST 11 AWARENESS, then you can follow that to some rich .
. Influences. Outside of dialogue, most of her influencing actions are .
. on Onderon, so you almost have to take her with you there (or at least .
. to Dxun) to get Influence without Awareness. Then you have to take her .
. back to Nar Shaddaa to show her the Force, in the same spot that Kreia .
. offered you a vision. .
. .
. Mira becomes a Jedi Sentinal. .
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Hanharr.....................................................................
. Found at Nar Shaddaa, just before meeting with Visquis .
. --Dark Side ONLY, Light/Neutral characteres get Mira-- .
. .
. Scout -- Level 4 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 20 +5 Vitality 60 Demolitions 6 .
. DEX 13 +1 Force 0 Awareness 6 .
. CON 20 +5 Defense 11 Repair 4 .
. INT 10 0 Fortitude 9 Treat Injury 5 .
. WIS 12 +1 Reflex 5 .
. CHA 8 -1 Will 5 .
. .
. Feats: Armor Proficiency (Heavy)*, Improved Power Attack, Weapon Focus: .
. Melee, Uncanny Dodge I, Wookiee Toughness**, Targeting I, .
. Precise Shot I, Close Combat, Wookiee Rage*** .
. Items: Rykk Blade (2) .
. .
. * Despite having proficiency in it, Hanharr cannot wear armor. .
. ** Works like the Marauder/Weapon Master feat, reducing damage taken .
. *** Works like the Marauder Fury ability, adding to STR and damage, .
. with a penalty to DEF at the same time .
. .
. Hanharr, the evil wookiee, is the most powerful non-force user in the .
. game. He is almost a Sith Marauder as it is. Keep him with melee .
. weapons, develop some two weapon fighting, and watch him go to work. .
. Makes a great contrast to Jedi, and will tear through opponents who .
. foolishly think that an Energy Shield will protect them. .
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G0-T0.......................................................................
. Joins automatically after Goto's yacht in Nar Shaddaa .
. .
. Expert Droid -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 10 0 Vitality 66 Computer Use 9 none .
. DEX 19 +4 Force 0 Stealth 4 .
. CON 16 +3 Defense 20 Awareness 5 .
. INT 16 +3 Fortitude 5 Repair 5 .
. WIS 10 0 Reflex 9 Security 9 .
. CHA 10 0 Will 2 Treat Injury 5 .
. .
. Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Caution, Gearhead & Improved Gearhed, .
. Improved Power Blast*, Improved Rapid Shot*, Improved Sniper .
. Shot*, Close Combat, Personal Cloaking Shield** .
. Items: G0T0 Targeting Module, Droid Repulsor, Droid Defense Barrier, .
. Aratech Droid Oxidizer .
. .
. * These combat feats come from the G0T0 Targeting Module. .
. ** Allows him to use Stealth without any items .
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HK-47.......................................................................
. Found in the Ebon Hawk, can be rebuilt after Nar Shaddaa .
. .
. Combat Droid -- Level 6 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 16 +3 Vitality 72 Demolitions 5 none .
. DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 5 .
. CON 10 0 Defense 19 Repair 6 .
. INT 14 +2 Fortitude 5 .
. WIS 12 +1 Reflex 5 .
. CHA 10 0 Will 3 .
. .
. Feats: Power Blast, Weapon Focus: Blaster Rifle, Toughness, Assassin .
. Protocols* .
. Items: Blaster Rifle .
. .
. * 20% chance for extra damage .
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Mandalore...................................................................
. Automatically joins when you go from Dxun to Onderon. .
. .
. Soldier -- Level 5 .
. Stats Skills Powers .
. ------------------------------------------------------------------- .
. STR 15 +2 Vitality 65 Stealth 2 none .
. DEX 12 0* Force 0 Awareness 5 .
. CON 15 +2 Defense 23 Persuade 2** .
. INT 12 +1 Fortitude 6 Treat Injury 9 .
. WIS 12 +1 Reflex 2 .
. CHA 12 +1 Will 2 .
. .
. Feats: Improved Power Blast, Weapon Focus & Specialization: Blaster .
. Rifle, Toughness, Close Combat, Mandalorian Courage***, Impant .
. Switching% .
. Items: .
. .
. * Mandalore has a +1 DEX bonus, but can't use it for DEF due to his .
. armor .
. ** Mandalore has 2 in Persuade, but can't raise it further .
. *** Extra +2 DEF every 6 levels, immune to Fear and Horror .
. % Allows +4 STR, DEX or CON, also has a Regeneration Implant .
. .
. Mandalore's Impant Switching is found in the same sub-menu as Jedi .
. Force Powers, and will give one of the above bonuses, depending on which.
. one is selected. .
. .
. Mandalore cannot become a Jedi, and has no major upgrades available, so .
. there's no particular reason to gain Influence with him. Which is just .
. as well since there aren't many places to Influence him anyway. .
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... Powers :DPDPW:
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There are a number of thoughts about what Force Powers are useful. First, if
you are a Jedi Guardian, with an 8 WIS and 8 CHA, don't even bother with
offensive powers, like Force Lightning, Stun, or any other power that gives
your opponent a save. Not worth your time. If you want to wear armor and
not the Zeison Sha or similar, then avoid all powers that are restricted by
armor. Simple things.
Here are the best "non-offensive" powers in the game:
Master Energy Resistance - A+
This is a great power. It lasts a very long time, and works against all
types of energy damage, blasters, lightsabers, electric, fire, cold, etc.
It affects the entire party, and at Master level reduces each energy hit
by 20. Beyond that its cost in force points is nil when you consider that
you'll regenerate those force points before the effect ends.
Master Speed - A+
Best taken for Jedi Guardians who like to hit things, but works for
everyone. I can't prove it, but people say that it is buggy (the DEF
bonus doesn't work). Whatever. The real purpose to the "X" Speed effects
is the extra attacks. This power is one of only four ways to gain an
extra attack, the others being: Two Weapon Fighting, Flurry and Force
Enlightenment (which technically uses Speed as well). Doesn't last too
long, but you won't need it (or want it) for long anyway.
Master Heal - A-
If this were KotOR I, this gets an A+, but in KotOR II, you have an
automatic regeneration outside of battle, and don't need this that much.
In battle it still retains its usefulness, as it heals everyone in the
party.
Here are the best "offensive" powers in the game:
Force Storm - A
The final version of "Shock." No surprise that it's a Dark Side power,
they get all the good attack powers. This does 1-6 damage per level,
save for half. Thus you need decent WIS or CHA to do full damage all the
time. Or just a high level. And speaking of high levels, if you get
above level 20, this starts to knock out entire rooms in a single shot,
and can often take down large groups of really tough enemies in two or
three at most.
Force Wave - B
The ultimate in Force Push, the Wave always does damage, like Force
Storm, even if it isn't much. It also has a chance to stun opponents and
knock them over. This is probably the best power for Guardians with low
WIS and CHA to take as it is generally effective and combines well with
attacking. Run into combat, use this power first, then start whacking
people with your lightsaber.
Death Field - B
Nice in a large group, you can heal yourself from near zero to fully
healed almost instantly, but otherwise it does far, far less damage than
Force Storm. Another very nice Dark Side Power. Also, your opponents
get to Save for half again, so nice WIS, CHA or high levels help.
Insantiy and Stasis Field - B-
A good power to use in conjunction with a Lightsaber attack, as it holds
your enemies helpless for a decent period of time.
Force Crush - A-
Nice power, doing 100 to 200 damage, guaranteed. With the added bonus
of actually HOLDING your enemy while you do this, meaning they can't
attack you at all. It gets an A-, rather than an A for two reasons. One,
you get it too close to the end of the game for it to really help. And
two, it is no good at all against groups of enemies. Use Force Storm.
You get Force Crush after convening the Jedi Council on Dantooine, as a
Dark Sided player.
Kill - C-
Unless the enemy saves, this power does half their vitality damage, no
matter how much vitality they have. Sounds more useful than it is.
Although you can easily chain two or three (or four) of these together
to kill anything, it isn't very fast, efficient or powerful. If they
make their Save, this power does almost no damage at all.
Destroy Droid - C+
Almost the same as Force Storm, but against Droids only, hence it not
being that useful. Only really take this if you don't want Dark Powers,
as Force Storm does more damage. This does have the nice effect of
knocking the droid out for a round or two, if it fails its save.
Take as a Novelty Only:
Mind Trick / Force Confusion - C-
Mind Trick allows you to go by enemies unnoticed (if you attack them,
they notice), which is useless. When do we want to pass up that sweet,
sweet experience? Force Confusion, at least, gives the satisfaction of
letting your enemies kill each other.
Throw Lightsaber - D+
Three problems with this. First, it doesn't do enough damage, about half
that of Force Storm. Second, you lose your lightsaber while it's spinning
around out there, leaving you high and dry. Third, even upgraded you can
hit only three enemies with it. Skip it.
... Leveling Up :DLVLD:
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Skills......................................................................
If you can take a large amount of skills, take them all. Here's how I
prioritize what is important.
Persuade
Repair
Demolitions (stop taking at 10 ranks)
Security (stop taking at 15 ranks)
Awareness (used to find mines and in dialogues, stop taking at 15 ranks)
Computer Use
Treat Injury
Stealth (Only take if you're going to be a Sith Assassin later)
Note: I stop taking Demolitions, etc., because the difficulties of the
tasks assigned to those skills don't go that high. Because of that
I find that you can stop taking skill ranks there at these points
and still recover all mines out there (or opening all Locked
doors). There will still be the occasional thing that requires
a higher Security, such as a metal box in the Onderon Vault, so you
can either go to 20 ranks there, or keep someone else working on
it.
This way, when I play Jedi Sentinal, my favorite class, I have to
take the Class Skill feats to get Repair and Demolitions. Then I
follow the priority list to put points in that order. However,
despite being a lower priority, both Computer Use and Treat Injury
will end out higher than Demolitions/Security/Awareness because
those stop.
Also note, if you keep up on all your skills (really only possible
with an 18 INT) the only particular benefit is when Creating Items,
but you can do that with anyone. Repair is needed for breaking down
items, as has been noted before, only the Exile's skill is used
when breaking down items, regardless of who uses the workbench.
Skills on your other characters, I almost always just give them their
class skills. There's no need for all of them to be able to do everything.
(Except Bao-Dur who can do everything if you get his INT up to 16)
Feats.......................................................................
Here's the priority I take on Feats:
Class Skill (Repair, Demolitions or Security)
Two Weapon Fighting (and its upgrades)
Critical Strike (and its upgrades)
Toughness (and its upgrades)
Weapon Feats (Lightsaber)
Regenerate Force Points (only helps at low levels)
Note: Even though various characters can become Jedi, it is sometimes
better to keep them as Ranged weapon specialists. There are some
really good blasters out there, and the Precise Shot feat tree
gives good damage bonuses.
Feats to Skip:
Armor Feats (the best Force Powers can't be used in armor)
Weapon Feats (Melee, Ranged)
Dueling (the bonus isn't that useful, unless you are fighting Unarmed)
Dual Strike (again, not that useful)
Regenerate Vitality Points (you regenerate out of combat anyway)
Combat Feats:
On the three major combat feat front (Power Attack, Critical Strike, and
Flurry), the absolute best of these is Critical Strike. (Replace with the
Ranged versions if you are using blasters) Why? Let's do some comparisons.
First, let's look at the two we aren't going to be using, Flurry and
Power Attack. Winner goes on to compete against Critical Strike.
Note: You can get "up to" 50 damage by upgrading fully just after
Dantooine. That's one of the reasons I go there first, to get
Lightsaber Crystals.
This is an abstraction, not an actual damage comparison. This is just to
demonstrate the differences between Flurry and Power Attack.
Flurry vs. Power Attack
Master Flurry: (1 Lightsaber) Master Power Attack: (1 Lightsaber)
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50 damage, hit one 62 damage, hit one
50 damage, flurry
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100 total damage 62 total damage
Master Flurry: (2 or Double) Master Power Attack: (2 or Double)
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50 damage, hit one 62 damage, hit one
50 damage, offhand 62 damage, offhand
50 damage, flurry
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150 total damage 124 total damage
Master Flurry, 2 Weapons, Master Power Attack, 2 Weapons,
Master Speed Master Speed
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50 damage, hit one 62 damage, hit one
50 damage, offhand 62 damage, offhand
50 damage, flurry 62 damage, speed one
50 damage, speed one 62 damage, speed two
50 damage, speed two
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250 total damage 248 total damage
You can see that in every situation, Flurry is better than Power Attack,
even at the Master Level. Master Flurry has an unnamed -1 penalty to hit,
and Master Power Attack gives you a -3 penalty to hit. So, Flurry is
better. For another take on Power Attack, see the Power Strategies below.
Note: Master Flurry claims in the game to have no penalty, but it still
has a -1 to attack penalty.
Critical Strike (and its upgrades) doesn't really strike me as worth it.
It will increase the "threat range" and give a chance to stun enemies.
First the stun is only useful at low levels. At high levels, my Master
Flurry/2 Weapons/Master Speed setup kills almost all enemies in a single
shot. As for the extra "threat range" it takes your weapon from getting a
critical hit 10% the time (which is what the 19-20 means in the "Critical
Threat" line), to 40% (or 50% with a "keen" weapon, upgrade).
A normal "keen" weapon criticals 20% of the time. In a normal attacking
situation, with two weapons, using Critical Strike, you will get one
critical. If everything hits, you get, essentially a free extra attack from
the doubled damage. Now, with Master Speed you get 4 attacks, 2 of which
should be criticals, giving you 6 "effective hits." Our Master Flurry setup
gives you 5 attacks, and with the 20% critical chance, one of these is
likely to be a critical for, yes, 6 "effective hits." Thus, they are fairly
similar in power, but Flurry is guaranteed damage. Critical Strike
sometimes does more damage, sometimes does less damage.
Note: When you use Critical Strike + Keen, you do NOT get 80% criticals.
When you put them together, their increased threat ranges are
essentially added together, not multiplied.
If you double a threat range, you take it from 19-20 to 17-20, if
you triple it you take it to 15-20, and if you quadruple it you
take it to 13-20. Remember that you have to count where you start.
Keen can then take it to 11-20.
You can check this yourself by going to the Journal screen, press
(X), then (Y) over to Combat. Scroll up to your last critical to
see your threat range.
Critical hits typically do double damage, which is nothing to sneeze at,
however, "double damage" is actually the same thing as an extra hit. With
the maximum of four attacks you can get (2 weapons + Master Speed), and the
maximum of 25% critical hit chance, you will critical hit once in there,
for exactly the same damage you would have gotten with Flurry. And you take
a -5 DEF penalty to do that.
The Shien Lightsaber Style will increase criticals to x3, at which point
Critical Strike becomes much more worth it.
Here's how: the following chart is similar to the one above, assume that
"Master Critical Strike" is using normal lightsabers, as Doublebladed
doesn't work. Normal Lightsabers have a threat range of 19-20, while
Doublebladed has 20-20. Then, keen both lightsabers with a Crystal or Lens.
All of this together gets you a Critical rate of a 11-20, or 50%. Also,
unlike before since criticals count, they count for both sides. The flurry
side is also give a Keen weapon(s) and uses Shien at x3 as well, giving
them a 20% critical rate.
Flurry vs. Critical Strike
Master Flurry: 1 Lightsaber Master Critical Strike: 1 Lightsaber
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50 damage, hit one 50 damage
50 damage, flurry (+50% at x3)
(+20% at x3)
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110 average damage 75 average damage
Master Flurry: 2 Lightsabers Master Critical Strike: 2 Lightsabers
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50 damage, hit one 50 damage
50 damage, offhand 150 damage (at 50%, we get one here)
50 damage, flurry
(+20% at x3)
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190 average damage 200 average damage
Master Flurry, 2 Weapons, Master Critical Strike, 2 Weapons,
Master Speed Master Speed
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50 damage, hit one 50 damage, hit one
50 damage, offhand 50 damage, offhand
50 damage, flurry 150 damage, speed one
50 damage, speed one 150 damage, speed two
150 damage, speed two
(flurry gets one critical) (at 50% we can assume 2 critical hits)
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350 average damage 400 average damage
All things being equal, Critical Strike will win in the end. But as you can
see, they are very, very close. It's still just random chance, in
the end. You get more GUARANTEED damage by taking an extra attack with
Flurry, as Critical Strike is dependent on luck. And remember that if you
will never, ever see an all critical hit sequence (4 or 5 critical hits in
a row), as whatever you're fighting will be long dead before that. Even
with a 50% chance of criticals, you'll still see many times when you don't
critical at all in a round.
... Prestige Classes :DPRCD:
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Jedi Weapon Master
10 Vitality / Level
1 skill point / level
6 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Greater Prestige Sense
Deflect
Increase Melee Damage 1
Class Skills:
Awareness
Demolitions
Persuade
Treat Injury
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 1 1 2 1 2
2 3 2 2 2 1 1
3 3 2 2 2 1 1
4 4 2 2 2 0 1
5 4 3 3 2 1 1
6 5 3 3 4 0 1
7 5 4 4 4 1 1
8 6 4 4 4 0 1
9 6 4 4 4 1 1
10 7 5 5 4 0 1
11 7 5 5 4 1 1
12 8 6 6 6 0 1
13 8 6 6 6 1 1
14 9 6 6 6 0 1
15 9 7 7 6 1 1
...etc.
Notes:
The Jedi Weapon Master has access to all the advanced combat feats, such
as Superior Weapon Focus Lightsaber (3 feats), Superior Two Weapon
Fighting, as well as access to the Specialization feats for all other
weapon proficiencies, whether you had access to them before or not.
On their automatic progression, you get both Increase Melee Damage, which
adds to your Lightsaber and Melee attacks, as well as an ability to
shrug off a small percentage of all damage later. The Deflect ability
goes up in ability as you go up in levels, giving an extra +1 to deflect
blasters on every odd level (1,3,5,7...etc.).
Like the Jedi Watchman (and the Sith Marauder/Assassin) the Weapon Master
has the best Defense bonus in the game, with Greater Prestige Sense,
giving a +2 DEF bonus every 5 levels.
Jedi Watchman
8 Vitality / Level
3 skill points / level
8 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Sneak Attack I
Greater Prestige Sense
Class Skills:
Awareness
Computer Use
Persuade
Security
Stealth
Treat Injury
Bonus Powers:
Force Camouflage
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 2 2 2 1 2
2 3 3 3 2 0 1
3 3 3 3 2 1 1
4 4 4 4 2 0 1
5 4 4 4 2 0 1
6 5 5 5 4 1 1
7 5 5 5 4 1 1
8 6 6 6 4 0 1
9 6 6 6 4 1 1
10 7 7 7 4 0 1
11 7 7 7 4 0 1
12 8 8 8 6 1 1
13 8 8 8 6 1 1
14 9 9 9 6 0 1
15 9 9 9 6 0 1
...etc.
Notes:
The Jedi Watchmen are nearly identical to the Jedi Sentinal, and don't
add too much in terms of high level ability. What you do get is the
Sneak Attack ability. If you attack while in Stealth mode, you do the
extra damage as indicated by the Sneak Attack feat. (1-6 per level of
the feat, so Sneak Attack 6 gives an extra 6-36 damage) Added together
with the Force Camouflage, you can now enter Stealth any time, whether
you wear a Stealth Field Generator or not.
Watchmen, unlike their Sith counterpart the Assassin, get the best
Saves in the game.
Jedi Watchmen also get access to Greater Prestige Sense, giving them the
best DEF progression in the game.
Jedi Master
6 Vitality / Level
2 skill points / level
10 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Prestige Sense
Regenerate Force Points
Light Side Enlightenment
Class Skills:
Awareness
Persuade
Repair
Treat Injury
Bonus Powers:
Inspire Followers 1
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 0 0 2 2 1 2
2 0 0 3 2 0 1
3 1 1 3 2 1 2
4 1 1 4 2 0 1
5 1 1 4 2 0 1
6 2 2 5 2 1 2
7 2 2 5 2 0 1
8 2 2 6 2 0 1
9 3 3 6 4 1 2
10 3 3 7 4 0 1
11 3 3 7 4 0 1
12 4 4 8 4 1 2
13 4 4 8 4 0 1
14 4 4 9 4 0 1
15 5 5 9 4 1 2
etc...
Notes:
There are some good points in becoming a Jedi Master, but I think you
were better off as a Consular. Your DEF bonus slows to a crawl. As a
Consular you gained +2 DEF every 6 levels. As a Master it slows to
every 8 levels. (see chart above) The only major bonus you get as a Jedi
Master is the Light Side Enlightenment, which affects the alignments of
your companions and pushes them out to the extremes. Good companions who
are close to Light Side Mastery will get there quicker. Evil as well.
The power Inspire Followers (and its followups) give a minor bonus to
Hit and to Damage for everyone, which is nice.
Jedi Masters also have the worst saves of any class in the game.
Sith Marauder
10 Vitality / Level
1 skill point / level
6 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Weapon Focus: Lightsaber
Greater Prestige Sense
Increase Combat Damage
Class Skills:
Awareness
Demolitions
Persuade
Treat Injury
Bonus Powers:
Fury - bonuses to STR, FORT, WILL and adds to damage for each kill
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 2 1 0 2 1 1
2 3 2 0 2 1 1
3 3 2 1 2 1 1
4 4 2 1 2 0 1
5 4 3 1 2 1 1
6 5 3 2 4 0 1
7 5 4 2 4 1 1
8 6 4 2 4 0 1
9 7 4 3 4 1 1
10 7 5 3 4 0 1
11 8 5 3 6 1 1
12 8 6 4 6 0 1
13 9 6 4 6 1 1
14 9 6 4 6 0 1
15 10 7 5 6 1 1
etc...
Notes:
(See the Notes on Jedi Weapon Master, they are almost the same)
The bonus power "Fury" is broken. At high levels it is supposed to give
extra attacks, but doesn't. Which means that you need to use Master
Speed still if you want the extra attacks.
Sith Assassin
8 Vitality / Level
3 skill points / level
8 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Weapon Focus: Lightsaber
Sneak Attack I
Greater Prestige Sense
Class Skills:
Awareness
Computer Use
Persuade
Security
Stealth
Treat Injury
Bonus Powers:
Force Camouflage - use Stealth without a Generator
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 1 2 0 2 1 1
2 2 3 0 2 0 1
3 2 3 1 2 0 1
4 2 4 1 2 1 1
5 3 4 1 2 0 1
6 3 5 2 4 0 1
7 4 5 2 4 1 1
8 4 6 2 4 0 1
9 4 6 3 4 0 1
10 5 7 3 4 1 1
11 5 7 3 6 0 1
12 6 8 4 6 0 1
13 6 8 4 6 1 1
14 6 9 4 6 0 1
15 7 9 5 6 0 1
etc...
Notes:
(see the Notes on Jedi Watchman, as they are almost the same)
Sith Lord
6 Vitality / Level
2 skill points / level
10 force points / level
Bonus Feats:
Weapon Focus: Lightsaber
Prestige Sense
Regenerate Force Points
Dark Side Corruption - Changes companion alignments
Class Skills:
Awareness
Persuade
Repair
Treat Injury
Bonus Powers:
Crush Opposition - gives enemies negatives to hit and Will saves
Level: Saves: DEF Bonus: Feats: Powers:
F R W
1 0 0 2 2 1 2
2 0 0 3 2 0 1
3 1 1 3 2 1 1
4 1 1 4 2 0 2
5 1 1 4 2 0 1
6 2 2 5 2 1 1
7 2 2 5 2 0 1
8 2 2 6 2 0 2
9 3 3 6 4 1 1
10 3 3 7 4 0 1
11 3 3 7 4 0 1
12 4 4 8 4 1 2
13 4 4 8 4 0 1
14 4 4 9 4 0 1
15 5 5 9 4 1 1
etc...
Notes:
(see the Notes on Jedi Masters, as they are almost the same)
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v. Power Playing Strategies :PWPLS:
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Random Item Strategies
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This game uses Random Item lists to determine not only what treasures you
find in containers, but also in stores. If you don't like the item you got,
what can you do?
In Containers - Items in containers (such as Plasteel Cylinders) is
decided on randomly when you first enter the area. (Load
screen area) If you want to get a different item, you will
have to load to a save from before entering that area.
In Shops - Save it before talking to the shopkeeper. Check what items they
have. If they don't have what you are after, or you just
want to see it again, reload and try again. Random items are
decided when you TALK to them, not when you check their shop.
Rewards - Save before getting the reward. If you get something that you
don't want (for instance, on the Lightsaber drops), reload
and try it again.
Workbenches and Creating Items
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Perhaps the single best way to get items and improve the items you find,
is by creating the upgradeables yourself. This is wholly dependent on
skills, and the game uses every skill for this except Persuade. This gives
you a good reason to have skills for the Exile, but you don't need it
(although I'd still take Repair, as noted above). With Bao-Dur/T3 giving
you the tech skills, Atton for Stealth and Kreia for Treat Injury you
have all the skills covered. Every time you come across a workbench, get in
the habit of checking out what items you can upgrade at that time, then
go through the list of createable items to see what's good.
A very good time to hit the workbench is right after creating your
Lightsaber. In addition to the 3 crystals that can be outfitted on it, you
can add Emitters, Lenses and Power Cells as well. So, get your Lightsaber,
hit a workbench and make those 3 to place in it. It makes a huge
difference.
Use the Shields!
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You will get a lot of Energy Shields (and their upgraded versions, such as
Arkanian Energy Shield) in this game. Use them. Not only on your character,
but have your companions use them as well, as they won't do that on their
own. Typcially you want to match the Shield to the job, if taking on a
group of blaster wielders, or Jedi, energy shields work well. If you see
monsters or vibroblade wielders, Mandalorian Melee shields are the order.
Bao-Dur will make infinite shields for you, so long as you don't have too
many in your inventory. He stops doing this once he asks about your
Lightsaber.
Use Lots of Items in Battle:
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When you have a cut scene or dialog that you know is about to end in
violence, if you're fast enough you can pressbefore the combat
engine triggers. If you are in inventory and not in combat, then this means
that you aren't bound by the turn-based system and can use any items you
like (but not force powers). Stim up, and have everyone activate their
shields. (from David Pidcock)
In the basic sense you can use any number of items you want when you aren't
in battle, so any way you can get the game to believe that you aren't in
battle will work.
Breaking Down Shields at the Workbench
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It seems that items which have a limited set of charges can be broken down
to the same number of components, whether they're fully charged or not. So,
you can have your cake and eat it too. Use that shield 4 out of 5 times,
break it down and use the components for another shield ! As long as
there's at least 1 use left, you can get the full number of components.
(from David P.)
At a skill of 20 Repair, your ability to break down items becomes 100%
efficient, so you can use this idea to simply break down a Shield, then
build it again to regain your charges. Not entirely necessary, and you
can't do it for the better shields, but with this you can use Shields more
freely.
Energy Resistance ALL THE TIME
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Force Powers such as Energy Resistance and Force Barrier provide a damage
reduction to a damage type, such as energy attacks. Better still, these
powers last a very long time, can be used in armor, and aren't that
expensive to use. You will have recovered your Force Power spent long
before the effect wears off. So, simply keep turning it on whenever you see
a battle coming. Better to be safe than dead.
Force Power: Energy Resistance + Mandalorian Melee Shield
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You can't use two different types of shields at the same time, so you can
either be protected from energy attacks or physical attacks. However, you
can stack force powers and shields. So, take the Force Power of Energy
Resistance and use that, then use the Mandalorian Melee Shield and you
are protected from just about every form of attack out there.
This works the other way as well, using an Energy Shield + Force Barrier.
You can also stack the same type as well, such as an Energy Shield and
Energy Resistance.
Extra Items: Sell Vs. Breakdown
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There are two ways to deal with clutter in this game, sell them or break
them down. Unless you see something you want to buy, you will want to
break these items down. Breaking down items depends on the Repair skill of
the main character, so if you have no skill in it, all your breakdowns will
give you 1 component. With a high repair, you can sometimes get hundreds,
or even thousands of components for breaking down an item.
Note: Be careful when using the workbench, it doesn't prompt you if you
are sure you want to break something down, and does it right away.
It would not be fun to lose a great item because you accidentally
select the wrong one.
However, I would only break down items when I know that there is something
good and needed that I can make and that I need the components. This way
you can save your items and decide whether to sell or break them down
later, depending on what you need.
Demolitions as a Door/Container Opener (from Eric Stroeh)
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Just a tip for those who choose Jedi Guardian for their main class [and who
carry it on to Jedi Watchman/Sith Marauder]... If you're not going to
invest in the feat for Security, and don't want to keep switching to
another character for their security skills, invest in some points in
Demolitions. Don't break down equipment that gives bonuses to that skill
either, if you're just going to put one point into the skill. Having gone
through the game as both a Sith Assassin and a Jedi Watchman, I've found
very little use for medpacs, so break them down and use their components to
make mines. Just make Minor Frag Mines as they only require a three for
Demolitions. Plant the mines on the lock for locked containers. If you do
this, you don't have to switch to a character with a decent Security skill,
and most importantly, *you don't get broken items* the way you would if you
bashed the container.
Note: Don't use "Flash" mines, these only stun, and can't open locked
doors/containers.
The Total Defensive Character Build (from Happywalrus)
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You're a bit odd on the way you throw up your reccommendations for Dex /
Wis. IF you upgrade your character to the point where he has all the stuff
he needs, he can become a master at defending himself. Meaning that even
Kreia's light sabers aren't that tough. I built a character with mainly
dex / wis (sentinel -> weaponmaster) and hitting him became _Very_ tough.
As in I was using the 'whack-a-mole-master' stance all the way through the
end of the game and things still had a hard time hitting me.
Thing is, if you use the light side and get the light side mastery, and
then throw the modifiers for both wis and dex in the mix, your character
can have up do something like 50-60 def. This requires you be using one of
the robe sets which doesn't cap your dex bonus, but it's still a HUGE
advantage.
Your FAQ covers how easy damage can be to do - high enough wis and str and
five or six attacks a round mean you deal some damage every time. But if
you have all that defense from force powers (battle meditation, master
speed increase, and the third....) ON TOP OF a defense bonus for both dex
and wis as combined with a deflection emitter or two, you can watch sith
commandos shoot themselves to death all day long. And still deal out all
the damage you want with your force powers. (which don't go up too high
because your design puts more emphasis on the CHA bonus)
A defensive build requires that you use two light sabers built for
defense - one that adds lots of wis and con and deflection - but when it
comes down to it you can only kill one or two enemies a round with sabers
no matter the build. Using your guide to leveling, I would have ended up
with an offense only mildly stronger - force powers might have done an
extra 20-30% tops. But I wouldn't be able to defend myself.
The beginning and all the 'no weapons for you, punk' fights were mildly
annoying, but once I had a light saber and finesse, everything went peachy.
Note that yes, this build DID rely on having a lot of feats later on. And
I DID end up at about 35 total due to the exploit in the cave. (and had all
the lenses / power cells / emitters I wanted - Total ~2.5k components,
which is pretty easy to throw together by the end.) However, since
everything's scaled and with a better plan (let's not get force lightning
or force drain, 'cause they're only good for one thing) I could have made
it through the whole game EASIER due to having everything I needed.
Power Attack, Another Look (from Userunfriendly)
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If you build two lightsabers, with "Keen" properties, using master power
attack with master speed, your total attack rating should be almost the
same as for flurry, however, you have a threat range of 17-20, or one
chance in five of making a natural critical hit, with TRIPLE the base
damage of the lightsaber...
And a chance to knock back the enemy, destroying initiative for that
combat round. In fact, with Shien lightsaber stance, which adds one to
the critical hit multiplier, you can do quadruple the damage.
Since the table shows that the damage rating for both are pretty similar,
its obvious that the additional one chance in five of doing monster
damage will skew the numbers back in favor of power attack.
In fact, using two YOURNAME crystals, (see the Cheats section) solari
crystals, and a improved beam gem lens, expert dueling emitter and the
ultimate diatanium power cell, and a strength boosted consular watchman,
(sneak attack bonus) I've been able to score 214 damage IN A SINGLE HIT.
If by some chance it doesn't kill outright, they're tossed away...
Critical hits double/triple/(with shien lightsaber stance) quadruple the
base damage of the lightsabre, any damage bonuses that are constants, any
strength damage bonus, weapon specialization, and bonuses confirred by
stims. Not quite the total multiple times the damage rating of the
lightsaber, but close. To improve damage, you need to understand what I
mean by constant. The telgorn jolt cell III adds 1-12 points of extra
damage. But the ultimate ditanium power cell adds 5 points. The 5
points is multiplied, but the range of damage from the jolt cell is not.
Since with some experiments I've concluded that the constant damage
enhancements of lightsaber components is near or greater than the average
damage confirred by other components of the same class, it does not cost
a player much in terms of damage potential to use constant damage
enhancements.
Now the same principle happens with ranged weapons as well. Using twin
mandalorian disintegrators, I've hit for over 170 damage in a single
shot. Sniper shot and Power blast do not stack with speed powers, unlike
the rapid shot feat. But using power blast, in dxun or malacor, you
often get the knockback effect, making powerblast often more useful than
rapid fire...also, precise shot which adds damage bonuses do triple in
the case of a critical hit while using power blast. I used the pinpoint
scope Mark IV, power pulsator V or pure rylath power cell, and
mandalorian chamber III.
Now some things I completely agree with. Strength is paramont in
building combat classes, and dex is completely irrelevant. That's
because you can now add overlays and underlays that add 30% resistance to
energy. With the right overlay and underlay, a combat jedi can now make
himself/herself immune to 60% of all energy based attacks. With the
right equipment, visors and gloves, and the damage resistance of the jedi
weapon master prestige class, its obvious that using armor is the way to
go. And at the difficult setting, I've seen my dexterity based jedi with
AC 68 get hit with hundreds of points of damage at level 50 in malachor.
Energy damage from lightsabers...hmmm...the conclusion is rather obvious.
Put as little points into dexterity as possible, especially since
dexterity enhancing items are incredibly common. Pump up strength, and
make lots of armor enhancements. At high levels, and with difficult
settings, AC is no longer a factor.
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Puzzle Solutions :PUZLE:
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This game likes its number puzzles. Here are the solutions to them.
Peragus Dormitory Puzzle:
... --> 3
-X.. --> 17
-.. --> 13
X --> 5
X.. --> 7
But to get the lift to work, you must enter the code in reverse:
7, 5, 13, 17, 3
Onderon Palace, Storeroom:
Twice first key number exceeds value of its half by 99 ---> 66
Reversing second key's digits increases value by 1/5 ---> 45
Third key differs from the reverse of its digits by ---> 39
twice the product of its digits
Nar Shaddaa, Vogga's Warehouse:
3 E 1 D must become 1 E 7 T
L 7 T 3 3 L 3 D
1. Turn center counterclockwise.
2. Turn left counterclockwise.
3. Turn right clockwise.
Freedon Nadd's Tomb, Vault 1:
One of the sectors is faulty, all six show different "faulty" circuits.
The answer is C.
Freedon Nadd's Tomb, Vault 2:
(6 _ 2) _ 8 _ 9 _ 1 = 13
Fill in the missing operators:
Now, both
(6 * 2) - 8 + 9 / 1 = 13
and
(6 * 2) - 8 + 9 * 1 = 13
work. However, when you play the game will decide that it will take only
ONE of these answers. It could be either. So, SAVE it before you try it,
then do one. If it doesn't work, reload and try the other.
Korriban, Sith Written Test:
ID # 3401726-B853S5O0X001
Sith Lord not on Korriban --> Freedon Nadd
Present LEAST appropriate for a Sith Lord --> Gizka
If at 6 and opposite 16, how many --> 20
Sith Code --> ...victory
NOT a Paradox --> I always lie
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Frequently Asked Questions :FRAQU:
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A full walkthrough can be found below, but if you just need one quick answer,
here's where to look:
General
Q - How do I stop party members from running into mines when they spot an
enemy?
A - Set them to the "Stationary" AI and they'll plant themselves. If you
see a mine near enemies, you can always send a Stealthed character to
Disable/Recover the mine safely. That or use an Energy Shield and work
fast.
Also, if Mira is in the lead, then no one in your party will set off
mines. This only happens if she is the current leader, not just if she's
in your group.
Q - Where is the option to turn on "Feedback" so I can see what the rolls
are in battle? It certainly wasn't in the "Feedback" menu!
A - This is buried in the Journal tab of the START menu. Go to the Journal
tab and press (X) to bring up the Messages console. You can read back
old dialogues here, check all the messages given to you (such as Light
Side gained and XP), Combat, which shows both to hit rolls as well as
enemy defenses and effects currently on the party.
Q - What do you do with "Broken Parts"? The game tells me I can do something
with them.
A - When you find a workbench, you can use the "Create/Breakdown" items
option. Press (X) to enter the Breakdown screen, and from there you can
turn the broken parts into Components. Press (X) to look at the Item
Creation screen. Everything there requires components to be built. The
higher your skill, the better things you can make.
You get more components from items if the Exile has a high repair. (Or
your leader on Dxun, or Mira/Hanharr later)
Q - Where do I find the XYZ weapon/armor/lightsaber?
A - In many cases, these great items are randomly determined by the game.
Thus, one game you might get a dozen Double Bladed Lightsabers, and in
the next, nothing but Short Lightsabers. Some items, however, are
specific, and will be indicated as such in the walkthrough below.
Q - How do I open this (Locked/Sealed) door?
A - Either Security, Lightsaber/Plasma torch, Mines or bashing. Also, if you
get the *Impossible* message, give up, you ain't getting through. Many
doors will give a dialogue box that tells you that you need to find
another way to open that door.
Using Security gives experience. There's no set amount, you get more XP
as you gain levels.
Q - How do I gain influence with XYZ without gaining Light/Dark side points?
A - Most times, you just have to grin and bear it, and try to figure out
how to get back what you lost later. For instance, most influence gains
give you Light Side. Why? Because you're being nice to them! So, if you
want to be a Sith Marauder, you can't have that, it'll delay your
prestige class later. Put off all conversations with companions until
after your prestige class, if you're that paranoid about it. And SAVE
before talking to anyone.
Q - Where can I get Pazaak cards? And who can I play?
A - Pazaak cards are bought and won. You can buy them on Telos, from the
first Duros merchant, and Mebla Dule, the woman in the cantina. You can
buy them on Dantooine from the Ithorian at the dock. You can also buy
them from the Twi'lek woman in the Pazaak Den on Nar Shaddaa. You can
play Pazaak with Atton, Mebla Dule at Telos, Nikko a man in the cantina
on Onderon, the four players in the Pazaak den and the Ithorian at
Dantooine. As far as I know, that's it. All the players who bet will
eventually stop once you win a certain amount of credits from them.
However, they only keep track of your WINNINGS, not your LOSINGS. Thus,
if you lose 4500 to someone, but win a certain amount, even though you
came out behind, they'll claim to be out of money and stop playing.
Once they stop, they may still play for fun, but never for credits.
You can win the Double card from Mebla Dule, the woman in the Telos
cantina, and the Tiebreaker +1 card from the Champ in the Pazaak Den on
Nar Shaddaa.
Note, due to a bug, you can play Mebla Dule in the Telos cantina forever
for money. Simply ask her some "questions" and she'll reset back to
a playing mode. However, she'll stop after one hand and bug you about
it again. I hate to do this, for one thing it's only 40 credits. Sure,
it's an easy win, but you can't use (A) to skip her dialogue like you can
with everyone else.
Q - Is treasure really random? How can I get something else?
A - Random treasure is, indeed, in the game. In fact, almost everything is
randomly determined. One game I never got a normal or double lightsaber
(besides the one I made, of course) but had a half dozen short
lightsabers. So, you might get something you really want and can use,
or you might get a lot of Light Combat Armors.
The randomization table is set upon ENTERING AN AREA. So, reloading
before opening a locker won't help, but reloading BEFORE entering the
area will. Of course, is it worth it to reload an entire area to get
one better item? Also remember that ALL the items in that area will be
randomized.
Q - What are the requirements for Prestige Classes? When can I get them?
Which ones can I take?
A - You must be:
Level 15
Far to the Light or Dark Side
Have Visas
Then talk to Kreia on the Ebon Hawk, she'll instantly talk to you about
it being time to get more power, and you pick a class. You choose which
of the prestige classes you want. So, although a Jedi Weapon Master is
really just a Jedi Guardian with extra feats, even a Consular could
become a Weapon Master. Kreia will only offer Light classes if you're
light sided and Sith classes if you're Dark.
However, after becoming your prestige class, you don't lose it if you
change your alignment. Although some of your powers might not work.
Q - What are the perks for getting Light Side, or Dark Side Mastery?
A - Mastery occurs when you are PERFECTLY in the Light or Dark. You get a
bonus:
Jedi Sentinal/Watchmen > +3 CON
Jedi Guardian/Jedi Weapon Master > +3 STR
Jedi Consular/Jedi Master > +3 WIS
Sith Marauder > +1 to 8 extra damage
Sith Assassin > +3 DEX
Sith Lord > +50 Force Points
Bonuses from original classes stick around after you get your prestige
class. So, a Guardian > Weapon Master has a +6 STR bonus. It won't SHOW
that you get a +6, you still see "+3 STR", but you get the full +6. You
can test this by stripping your character of all items and looking at
your Character screen. Your stats with the bonuses will highlight in
yellow, and then you can compare those numbers with the numbers you see
at level up (which are your "real" numbers).
Q - What is the highest level you can get in KoTOR II?
A - The game limits you to 50, but you'll beat the game long before then.
Typically people win it around levels 23 to 28.
The only way to get to level 50 is to use of the several infinite
experience glitches in the game. The most potent of these is the infinite
Hssiss spawn point in Korriban (see the Cheats section).
Also enemies scale up/down to your level, so you won't have an easier
time at higher levels. But you will have more powers and feats.
Q - Where are all the HK-47 parts?
A - HK Vocabulator - HK droid, Peragus
HK Control Cluster - HK droid, Telos Plateau
- Sullustan merchant, Dantooine
HK Droid Processor - Kodin, Droid Merchant, Nar Shaddaa
HK Chassis - HK droid, Nar Shaddaa, Vogga's Warehouse, part of plot
Q - In a dialogue with HK-47 he mentions that he can help you find the HK-50
factory. I finished the game, but didn't see it. Where was it?
A - The HK factory was removed before the game shipped. They actually built
a lot of resources for it, areas and dialogues, but never finished it.
I have heard that it will not be added for the PC version either.
Q - What's the best Class/Prestige Class combination?
A - Jedi Consular / Jedi Weapon Master. With Consular you get Force Focus to
make your Force powers harder to resist, and Weapon Master unlocks the
best feats in the game for your Lightsaber. You won't get "Force Jump",
but if you Master Flurry all the time anyway, it won't matter.
Prologue
Q - Do I get anything for completing the Prologue? Can I skip it?
A - Although it shows that you get XP for doing actions in the prologue,
none of this XP carries over to the Exile when you finally get control of
him/her. I think it's a neat sequence, however, and worth going through,
at least the first time.
Trick: If T3 chooses to Skip the Prologue, any equipment in his inventory
is retained by the Exile when he/she wakes up in the medical bay.
Normally his inventory is cleared, but if you run around and
gather up all the stuff you can with T3, then head back to the
cockpit to skip the Prologue, it transfers over and isn't lost.
Generally you will end up with some parts, computer spikes, mines,
droid equipment, and a Field Blaster. (from Steven K. Snyder)
Q - How do I repair the Hyperdrive?
A - Get parts, use the Hyperdrive and you're done. It takes 5 parts, so as
soon as you have that many, head over to it and fix it. To get to the
Hyperdrive, you need to exit the Ebon Hawk and grab a mine from the
Proton Missile on the ship. That's all there is to it.
You don't need to repair the other droid, or even enter the garage if
you don't want, all the parts you need can be found up the lift on the
exterior of the Ebon Hawk.
Peragus
Q - I get the option, after looking up patient treatment, to slice the
system to trace the source, but I don't have any spikes. Where do I get
some?
A - You'll come up with some later. Just don't forget about it, and come back
once you get them. Then once you've sliced the system, use the console
on the HK level for another experience boost, as this is what you traced
the signal to.
Q - What do I do here?
A - Your goal is to contact T3 on the comms, but to do that you must rescue
Atton. In the "security" room (the one before the three droids, where
you will likely level up), use the Security Station and watch the
holovid where he tells you how to override the comm station. Go to the
comm station (at the large room, by the big window), use it to free
Atton. Enter Atton's cell, talk with him, then back to the comm station
to talk to T3.
Q - If Revan's sex and light/dark sidedness is determined by my answers, is
my lightsaber also determined by my answers to Atton?
A - No, you decide what you want when you build it, although you do see the
old one in cutscenes.
Q - How can I get T3 to open the Hangar door?
A - That comes later, after the Exile and T3 have met up again. For now,
open the fuel doors, and follow that through until you can open the
turbolift doors on the administration level.
Q - Where do I get a mine to use on the Container/Door I found? It won't
open with bashing or security.
A - Although T3 can find some mines, the Exile must Recover mines that are
littered around the place. Hope you have some demolitions.
Q - I found a broken droid on the fuel containment level, is it worth it to
repair it?
A - This droid, if repaired all the way, will wipe the floor with the other
droids here, so yes, it is worth it. Also, repairing the droid will give
you an experience bonus for using the Repair skill. So, if you have the
Parts on hand, do it.
Q - This HK droid tells me that I can't get any farther without a voice
imprint... how do I get it? Do I trick him over there?
A - No, go to the opposite room and open the locker there to get the
voiceprint sensor. Walk back and persuade him to tell the code to you
while using the sensor at the same time. If you're not persuasive, you
can also just destroy the console to open the door. You get more XP for
doing it the subtle way, however. You can also run around the entire
base with the Sonic Sensor. Get the dying message from HK, the
maintenance log from the Security Desk on the main level, and the
final log from the console that unlocks with the sonic sensor later.
Q - I thought his name was supposed to be HK-47...?
A - Different droid. A knock-off, if you will.
Q - Can I turn off the Plasma, when I'm in space?
A - No, but you can reduce the damage if you use Energy Resistance (Force
Power) or the Telos Energy Shield BEFORE you leave the base. You can
also walk along the edge.
Q - There's poison gas in the dormitories, and I don't have the skills or
spikes needed to turn it off, now what?
A - Ignore those for now, and go on a little ways in the other direction.
Just up from the next large room will be a medical supply room with a
lab station in it. You'll also find a bag with a Breather mask. This
makes you immune to poison.
Q - In the dormitory, is there any point to watching all the Holovids?
A - Not as I can tell, although you find out what happened here. More
importantly, the administrator gives you a code you'll need later.
Watch his, he gives 3 numbers out of 5 of the code. Then view the
transmission to see the code. With a good intelligence, your character
will figure this out, otherwise you have to.
... --> 3
-X.. --> 17
-... --> 13
X --> 5
X.. --> 7
You don't need to do this, actually, you can manually enter the code
later, however, HK reversed the code, so you actually must enter:
7, 5, 13, 17, 3
The Harbinger
Q - Any point in watching the Holovids?
A - You get some XP for watching them in the briefing room. Otherwise it's
all plot development.
Q - Kreia just left! Should I reload, and remove all her items?
A - Nah, she'll be back.
Peragus Again
Q - The console won't let me turn off the containment field, it claims there
are mines about... but didn't I get rid of that one?
A - There are two mines that it looks at. One is the mine you find right
after getting T3 back. The other is actually just down the ramp, then
to the right of the ramp is a small passage to a door, open it to find
the mine.
Q - Besides Light/Dark side, any consequences to firing on the asteroids?
A - No. You'll get blamed, then cleared either way.
Q - I'm firing the turret at all the Sith Troopers, is it really good to get
them all?
A - No, in fact, you should PURPOSELY MISS ALL OF THEM. They'll all board the
Ebon Hawk, and at 150 XP each, you'll get 3750 experience, which is a
big help. You even get time to "buff" up with stimulants and energy
shields. Then stalk about the ship until there aren't any left.
Telos
Q - Who do I side with? Is it as simple as Ithorians = Light Side, Czerka =
Dark Side?
A - It pretty much is that simple. Work for one side or the other, do what
they ask, then go through their quests to get a shuttle to the surface.
Q - While working for Czerka, I get the option to do an arms deal. They tell
me to come alone, so I enter SOLO mode and go to where they tell me.
They say I'm not alone, what gives?
A - You need to actually kick Atton and Kreia out of your party. START >
trigger over to party selection screen, they de-select Atton and Kreia
to remove them.
Q - I destroyed the Exchange Console and killed the guard, now I need to get
in there to kill the head of the Exchange. Is there a way in, or must I
start over?
A - There's really no way around it. You need to get in there, and that is
the only way in. You don't have to start over, if you have a save from
before you destroyed the console, but if you don't have a save, you will
have to start a new game.
Q - How do I get my lightsaber? Atris has it!
A - You never get that one back. You'll make one later. Once you're away from
Telos, Bao-Dur asks you about it, and you can follow that dialogue to
start the Lightsaber Gathering quest. You need three pieces, you already
have one (you get the first when you finish the Ithorian/Czerka quests).
Once you have at least 2 pieces you can ask Bao-Dur about it, but you
need all three to build it. Despite what he says, you don't need to be
near a workbench.
Q - I left the Hidden Base, why didn't Handmaiden join up with me? I'm as
Lightsided as it gets!
A - Handmaiden will ONLY join a male character's party.
Q - I have Handmaiden, and I trained her to be a Jedi, but now the game sent
me back to Telos and I can't get out!
A - This is one of the more common glitches. This isn't supposed to happen.
What is supposed to happen is Kreia says: "Betrayal," then it goes to
a CUTSCENE of Atris talking to the Handmaiden Sisters about your
Handmaiden forsaking her vows. You aren't supposed to go there yourself.
Reload, try again.
Q - Which planet should I go to first?
A - I usually like Dantooine, Nar Shadda, Onderon/Dxun then Korriban.
Dantooine first because you will build your lightsaber on the first
planet you come to, and Dantooine has the best source of crystals in
the game (including your "named" crystal). Nar Shaddaa next to get Mira
early enough to turn her a jedi later (or get Hanharr if you're EVIL).
You can also finish HK-47 after Nar Shaddaa. Onderon/Dxun because you
have to come back to it later, and Korriban last because of the potential
for exploiting the game. You know you want to.
If you are Dark Side, you will still want to hit Dantooine first, but
you might want to leave after getting the "YOURNAME" Crystal and
Lightsaber, going to Nar Shaddaa and coming back later. Vrook is not an
easy fight at lower levels.
Dantooine
Q - What's with this fake Holocron this scavenger wants to sell me?
A - It's fake, call him on it. He'll tell you that he bought it, and now
wants to pass the misery on to others. Great potential for Dark Side
abuses... And no, you never find the original of this. (Despite how
Disciple hints at this)
Q - Where is Disciple?
A - Get permission from the Administrator to enter the Enclave, enter the
sublevel then follow the passage around to the opposite side. If you
look at the map, he's in the room at the far right, the library. If
you're a female character, he'll offer to join, otherwise he'll go to
Khoonda.
Q - Where is the Crystal/Kinrath Cave?
A - Head out in the opposite direction from the entrance of Khoonda (such
that it appears you are going "right" on the map). This will lead to
a small valley. The cave is straight ahead, and a little to the right
in the corner.
Q - This militiaman just asked for atmospheric sensors, but Bao-Dur thinks
that something is up. What do I do with them?
A - Once you find the sensors (in the Crystal Cave), have Bao-Dur look at
them (or do it yourself, with a high repair) to find the hidden
surveillance devices. It's neat, and can be used as evidence (see the
other militaman in Khoonda, then talk to the administrator) against the
current head of the milita. This is neither light nor dark, so you
don't get much out of it. However, you can sell them for 3000 credits
to the guy, 4000 with persuasion or 5000 if you point out that they
are bugged.
Q - Is there any point to delivering the message to Dopak?
A - Not really, although Dopak will turn in "battle" if you do.
Q - I explored the sublevel, didn't find Vrook. Where is he?
A - As the datapad states, he's in the Crystal Cave, follow the left path up
to the large room on the left, fight through the mercenaries to "free"
him. Then kill him or talk to him. Your choice.
Q - What are all the things I can do to affect the battle?
A - Recruiting (Suulsta, Dillan, Jorran, Akkere), Repairing/Sabotaging the
Medlab Droid (north end of Khoonda), Repairing all the droids, rewiring
the targetting mechanism of the gun turrets (for either side), recovering
or setting mines and sealing/opening the small exterior door of Khoonda
(not the garage door). Note that it doesn't really matter where you place
the mines... just somewhere around the ones already placed. Use your
cheapest mines. Once you've set enough, the game will stop you.
This is a bit of a trick question since this stuff doesn't actually
affect the outcome. Whichever side you choose will win if you win your
fight. You can literally do every of the above things "wrong" and still
win.
Q - I am Dark Side, did Dantooine first (like you suggest) and can't beat
Vrook. He just keeps healing himself. What do I do?
A - Some ideas for low level Vrook bashing. First, run around the room,
especially around your companions and around the plants at the corners
to try to get him off your back. If that happens you can use Stims/Powers
to buff up. Keep Energy Resistance on at all times, this reduces the
damage you take. Remember you can also save it in battle. Just don't make
it your only save.
Just because you go to Dantooine first doesn't mean you have to finish it
first. If the battle is too tough for you, go to Nar Shaddaa, finish that
planet and come back later.
I mostly recommend Dantooine first to get the "YOURNAME" Crystal and
other crystals from the Cave. Now, I can always beat Vrook at this point,
but this usually happens at level 16, when I just get the prestige class.
You'll have this level if you've been Recovering Mines and using Security
on doors, otherwise you might be as low as level 13.
And lastly, since you will be fighting Vrook in the main foyer of the
Khoonda building, you can always Mine that area before the fight. Or
even during the fight if you can shake him loose from you.
Nar Shadda
Q - What's the best/easiest way to get rid of the Toydarian dock manager?
A - Persuade him that the Exchange sent you (DSP), if you're persuasive, or
just pay his 50 credit fee. You can also tell him that his landing pad
is junk and he lets you go.
Also note that this brings up the Red Crescent ambush later. After a bit,
you'll see a cutscene of the dockmaster being accosted by a couple of
Trandoshians (the lizard men). Then, when you next return to the Ebon
Hawk, you have to fight through them. The fight continues ON your ship,
so be aware of that.
Finally get the last guy in the Security Room (by the cockpit) to end
this. You can either enslave the slavers (dark side) or tell him to
give up the slaving, at which point he attacks, and dies (light side).
If you enslave the slavers, they'll pay you every once in a while if
you talk to their representative in the cantina here.
Q - Kreia gets mad at me if I help, or chase off, the beggar. What do I do?
A - In this situation, you only have to believe her point of view. Her
dialogue has no Light/Dark options in it, just a chance to gain or lose
Influence.
Q - In the Serroco section of the Refugee area there is an Airspeeder that
says that it is broken beyond all repair, how do I fix it?
A - You must fix it BEFORE meeting with the Exchange and going to Goto's
ship. Afterwards it will be disabled, whether you have fixed it or not.
You can fix it yourself, or have Bao-Dur do it for you once you find all
three parts for it.
Airspeeder Navigation Interface - Tienn Tubb's place (or Kovin)
Maneuvering Flaps - Pylon 3, Docks Area
Power Cell - Reward from Ithorian in Flophouse
Then it requires a [Demolitions], [Computer Use], [Repair] and [Security]
to fix it. You can have Atton do the Security. Call him an expert to get
+INF+ with him. You can have either T3 or Bao-Dur CHECK your work (but
you have to do the work first) on the other three checks. Compliment
Bao-Dur to gain +INF+ with him as well.
Q - In Atton's fight in the cantina with the Twin Suns, I keep getting
whomped. He just isn't good enough at melee to compete with them. How
can I win this fight?
A - There's always the cheap way...
The first time I played, Atton creamed them easy, the second time I
wasn't so lucky. So here's what I did. I started just running around the
cantina to try to buy time, and ended out behind the bar counter, if done
quickly enough, they'll still try to get to you at a straight line, but
are blocked by the counter. Don't get close to them, they can still
attack across. Stay back, use guns, and finish them off.
And basic battle tactics...
If you can reload to before going to the cantina (before the Exchange
message) you could always Mine the cantina. Then when the Twins go
hostile, that should take them out. Also if you can reload, give Atton
better equipment. Buy/make/transfer from better equipped party members,
whatever. And make sure he has the best upgrades you have or can make. If
simply hitting is a problem, give upgrades with Attack +1 instead of
Damage +1 (better is always better).
Beyond that the main problem is one of numbers. It's a 2-on-1 battle and
Atton (probably) isn't a Jedi here. Use the Mandalorian Melee/Power
Shield, but that only buys you time, you have to hurt them.
Q - How do I get Mira/Hanharr?
A - This is part of the main plot, you'll get them on your way. You need to
get the notice of the exchange until you get the message that they want
to meet with you in the Jekk'Jekk Tarr. (A Breather, immunity to poison,
is helpful, but you won't need it)
Q - How do I enter the Pazaak den?
A - Force Persuade works fine, no Dark Side points.
You can also talk to the little Bat-type person, Kaalah-Nah, outside the
Pazaak Den/Cantina and with a 15 credit investment he'll tell you the
password. (from Arthur Doten)
Q - I keep losing/winning in the Den? How do I make the hurting stop?
A - Either win against everyone there three times, or you can get rid of
each player in a different way. For the droid, you can repair it,
although you have to badger it a bit for that. The Twi'lek girl is
easily dispatched by having Atton in your party, and talk to the goon
outside the den, then "invite" the third player out to see him... and
he dies. Once they're all out of the way, you can meet... the Champ.
Beat him three times and you're done with it. Or you can ask about how
he always wins, then Force Persuade him to "lose" to you.
Q - Just how do I got about meeting with the Exchange? I've already killed
their leader in the Refugee sector!
A - Generally speaking, I've always had the Exchange message arrive just
after dealing with the Red Crescent Slavers on the Ebon Hawk. However,
you may still not have done enough to get the Exchange mad at you. (or
to like you, however you like it) Find the little squeaky guy outside
the Cantina/Pazaak den, and give him 2000 credits to bump up your
reputation. You should get the message soon.
Q - How do I get anywhere in this maze? I don't have a map!
A - Just follow the right wall and you'll get through quickly enough. There
are a few corpses that you can find and search here, if you don't mind
getting lost for a bit. Your goal is a security door.
I have a map of this area in the walkthrough.
Q - What should Mira/Hanharr do to get the Exile in?
A - You only need to open the escape tunnels, and that's it. Find that,
and open it. If Mira/Hanharr's security is better than the Exile's, I
would open all the lockers/doors first. If the Exiles security is better
than Mira's/Hanharr's, then I would just run away and let the Exile deal
with it.
The escape tunnel, from the pit, go straight through the first door,
turn left (map left), through that door, then turn left (map down) and
that door ahead is the escape tunnel. To the right of that door is a
small console that you can use to let the Exile in.
Q - Who should go to rescue the Exile on Goto's ship?
A - Just think of it like a regular party, and try to get everything. Mira
is handy to have as her ability to walk through mines without triggering
them will come up. Beyond that, just make sure you have people who can
do a lot of fighting (with droids) and the working of machines.
Q - OK, I'm done with Goto's ship, why won't it let me out?
A - The basics of Goto's yacht is:
1. Get the Shutdown Code* from the Droid in the room you entered.
2. Retrieve the main character (the Exile).
3. Get the Power Access Codes* from the Console in the room where you got
the Exile.
4. Head to the bridge and disable the power system, by setting all
systems to secondary power on the LEFT console on the bridge, then
turning that off the power from the RIGHT console on the bridge.
5. Fight your way back through bounty hunters to the Ebon Hawk.
* These have to be uploaded and unlocked on the Command Consoles when
you find them to use the systems.
Dxun
Q - There is a big sealed door here, called a weapon's Cache, that asks for
Military Grade Explosives to detonate. Where do I get it?
A - The Korriban Sith Academy has some, but that's not until later. You will
find another of these doors later, and that one already has its
explosives there. So, come back later. Also, Akkere on Dantooine has some
Thorium charges, which you can buy from him for 1000 credits, or kill
him to get.
Q - What are the ways that I can impress Mandalore?
A - 1. Win all the battles in the battle circle, which requires number 2.
2. Help Kelborn defeat the Onderonians in the Jungle.
3. Detonate the permacrete on the sealed weapon's cache.
4. Defeat a Zakkeg and take its ear (for the Gate Guard Captain)
5. Find the lost Mandalorian (for the trainer)
6. Repair the transponder (for the tech by the broken wires, at the gate)
Q - After I split the party, and send a group to Dxun, when they return I
ask them about it, is this important? Does this lead to something?
A - Any of the people who can be "squad leaders" will get this dialogue, and
depending on whether they went through Light or Dark, you get the "you
look calmer" or "you look unsettled" options. That's all there is to it,
they don't get any powers, and you don't get any influence.
Onderon
Q - Where do I get an open starport visa, and who should I give it to?
A - You'll get two before this is over, and who you give them to depends on
whether you want Dark Side, Light Side or neither (but credits are fine).
One you get when you are attacked (the second time, not the first). This
starport visa must be cracked by Kiph in the cantina to be usable. The
second you get from the Beast-rider thugs after freeing Dhagon.
You can give them to:
The Captain, at the entrance to the cantina, Light Side, 500 credits
The Republic Spy, at the back of the cantina, Light Side, +INF+ with
Bao-Dur
The Smuggler, side of the cantina (although you have to Force Persuade
to learn she's a smuggler) for Dark Side and 5000 credits or a
lightsaber crystal (only works with Dark Siders, so there)*
The Trader, at the entrance to Onderon, neutral, 2000 credits
or 3000 with persuasion
The Family, at the entrance to Onderon, Light Side
*Note: This crystal is quite powerful and can in fact be used by
Lightsiders, but you must have "YOUR" Crystal installed in
your lightsaber to do it. (TennisBoy and JJ)
Q - Everyone's shooting at me, but I still didn't really talk to Master
Kavar. How do I meet him if Mandalore tells me to leave the planet?
A - Don't worry, just go, you'll come back later. It's as good a time as
any to hit another planet.
Q - In the palace, I'm trying to get into the throne room by running past
the Drexl Larva, but everytime I get halted and told that I'm not ready
to leave battle. What do I do?
A - You have to fight the Drexl. Confusing, I know, since you hear that you
should ignore it and run into the throne room. Plus everyone else just
runs right by it. But, no, you have to stop and defeat the beastie first.
Q - I sided with Vaklu, but I want to switch sides and defend the Queen. How
do I do that?
A - You can't. Once you start working for someone, you're stuck with it.
Korriban
Q - Any penalty to searching the bodies? Kreia seems pretty set against it.
A - Not really, so long as you don't lose influence with Kreia, who cares?
Q - There's this sealed door... when I use explosives to open it, the Sith
Holocron is unreadable! How do I open this door?
A - The Holocron is only usable in a game where you set (waaaaaaay back)
Revan as a Dark Lord of the Sith. So, if Revan is all Dark Sidey, then
the Holocron will have Bastila talking about Revan.
Dantooine Again
Q - I went to the Enclave, but there aren't any Jedi! I just stand around
with nothing to do (or worse yet, get into a glitch). What do I do?
I've killed/saved all the Jedi.
A - From what I've heard, all you can do is reload and try again. What may
influence this is whether you do anything else on Dantooine when you go
there again. So, go straight to the Enclave. Don't shop. Don't talk to
anyone.
The Ravager
Q - Where is the fourth Proton Bomb?
A - You have to "make" it from a Missile you find in the main area, the
Ravager Command Deck, near the Maintenance Bay & Workbench (check the
map). You use the console, Missile Bay Control, first to free up the
bomb ("Seal the missile bay doors", "Activate the launch sequence", then
"Override the emergency sequence"), then go over to the "missile bay" and
"Remove the Proton Core". Then you just need to find the "fourth"
site to place it. Note that the "fourth" site listed on the map may or
may not be the last site you need to bomb, you need to place it where you
haven't already been.
Malachor V
Q - How do I defeat Darth Sion? He keeps getting back up!
A - You defeat him in conversation, actually, killing his shell doesn't do
much. Keep persuading him on the wrongness of his position, and
eventually he'll die.
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Walkthrough :WLKTH:
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This is the step by step through the game. The stickiest points in KoTOR2,
in my opinion, are the Dark/Light side options and the Influence options
with companions. So, I'll be working mainly on those with full-on dialogue
trees listed in the walkthrough.
Dark/Light Side Points (DSP and LSP) are somewhat weighted. A LSP gained
while you have Dark Side Mastery will pull you farther on the spectrum than
an LSP gained while you are very far along the light end. So, all I can say
when you get a LSP or DSP is that you get one, not how much it's worth.
Note: Enemies and battles scale to your level. So, a boss might have 700
vitality if you go at level 30 and 1400 vitality if you go at level 40.
(just an extreme example, as you can't get that high in level without
the Korriban Cave Exploit)
Note: In the walkthrough, I list the "base cost" of parts and spikes. For
every 4 points in the repair and computer skill that you have, this
cost is reduced by 1. The game looks at your TOTAL skill (including
bonuses) not just how many points you've put into the skills at level-
up.
There are technically 4 main ways to play the game, LS-Male, DS-Male, LS-
Female, DS-Female. To write this walkthrough I played concurrent games with
a LS-Male and DS-Female, which should get most everything covered.
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1. The Prologue :T3PRL:
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The Prologue is played with JUST T3, although you do get to see yourself.
And hey, isn't this the Ebon Hawk? Huh. Wonder where that "Revan" character
wandered off to. Anyway, to skip this, just select SKIP. If you don't skip
now you can skip it later as well.
XP Note: I list the XP you get from opening doors/containers with Security.
This is the only section I'll do this. You get an amount of XP
based on your level, higher as you go up in levels. You also gain
XP from Recovering mines.
Ebon Hawk, Interior
.--.
| 1|
/2|_ 1. Cockpit
/ /|3| 2. Galaxy Map
| __| 3. Security Room
| | 4. Main Hold/ Security Console
.--. | |_ .--. 5. Medbay/ Exile
|S | / S| _ |9 | 6. Cargo Hold/ 3C-FD
| |.___/ 4 .|E|_| | 7. Lift
____ _ __ ___/ 8. Garage/ Workstation
| | |5 || | 9. Starboard Dormitory
| 6 | |7|| 8 | 10. Engine Room
- - / S. Sealed Room
/_ _/ / E. Exit (Under Normal Circumstances)
/ || /
|10|
|__|
The goal is to fix the ship. While doing this, we learn about the game
system, and maybe a little about ourselves.
Trick: If T3 chooses to Skip the Prologue, any equipment in his inventory
is retained by the Exile when he/she wakes up in the medical bay.
Normally his inventory is cleared, but if you run around and gather
up all the stuff you can with T3, then head back to the cockpit to
skip the Prologue, it transfers over and isn't lost. Generally you
will end up with some parts, computer spikes, mines, droid
equipment, and a Field Blaster. (from Steven K. Snyder)
Editor's Note: This only counts for items in general inventory, so
if you want the Field Blaster, don't have it equipped
on T3 when you Skip the prologue.
Cockpit:
Nothing to see here, although you can look at the Galaxy map. Move out to
the security room, ahead and left. Open the Plasteel container, get the
Spike and use the Communications Console. Slice the system and open the
door to the Main Hold. Go to the Main Hold
Main Hold:
Immediately turn right and open the Footlocker. It's locked, but our
Security isn't up for it, so we have to bash. This should get you 2 Spikes.
Left of the locker is a broken droid with Parts. Left of that is a body
(Kreia) with a Locker Key and another broken droid with more parts.
Go to the center, and use the Security Console. Slice the system (2 spikes),
but there's nothing to do with it yet, so leave it.
Medbay:
Open the Low Security door just down from the security console (12 XP),
then ahead and right through the Low Security door (12 XP) into the Medbay.
Ah, there you are. Open the Medical Storage Bin with security (12 XP) and
get the Medpaks (3). "Dialog" with your character, then Treat Injury to
use the Medpak. (100 XP) Leave the Medbay and turn right. Ahead is the
sealed door to the Engine Room, which requires that you find a Mine to
open it. Back out, and go left (from the engine room) then open the Low
Security Door into the Cargo hold.
Cargo Hold:
Here you find 3C-FD another Astromech droid. Talk to him to repair him.
Invite him into the party. (210 XP) Open the Locker to get some Droid parts
and armor. Equip it if you want. Also in here are a couple of Plasteel
containers with parts, security tunnelers, computer spike and components.
Finally, if you want, you can use the Metal Box - Combat Training box in
the center of the room. You don't get XP for it, but you do see what
droid combat looks like. (12 XP for security on the box) You also get a Field
Survivor Pistol. If you do the combat, it's actually easier to use the Droid
Shock Arm (push RIGHT on the D-pad) as it always hits.
Ebon Hawk, Exterior:
_
| |
/^ | |____ 1 - Lift Control
| | | ] 2 - Starboard side
| |/ | 3 - Port Side
| 5 2 | 4 - Proton Missile
. 3 1 | 5 - Quadlasers
_/
4 |
. |
-u_u
Time to head out. Go to the Lift right by the Medbay. We're here primarily
for an explosive device (there are several out here) and to get Parts.
Go straight ahead, and down the Starboard side. Right to the sparking wires,
and plunder some parts. There is also an open hatch right there with more
parts. There are two more open hatches with parts. Slide to the "front" of
the ship and select the Exposed Wires to open the Starboard Dormitory
(takes 1 Part). Past that is another Open Hatch with more Parts.
Up the ramp, and over to the Port side of the ship. You'll see two mine
bubbles. Get close, and select "Recover Mine" (100 XP). You could just
"Disable Mine" (Up on the D-Pad), but it's always better to Recover.
Recover the other mine (36 XP). Also here is a Proton missile. Search it for
more Parts and another Mine.
Trick: (from tinytroll) When you go outside to gather the minor frag mine
from the missile, plant it right away. Wait a few seconds and it
will regenerate in the missile because you no longer have one in
your inventory. Gather it again and plant it. Repeat until you
have 15 mines planted. This is easiest if you plant them all in
exactly the same spot right next to the missile so there is less
running around to do. After you have 15 mines planted and one in
your inventory, gather them all up and go back inside and drop them
in a storage container or locker, then go back up and harvest more
mines. Repeat ad nauseam.
Slide close to the ramp, then left and down to the Quadlasers for the last
of the Parts.
Back to the lift and into the ship.
The Garage:
Getting to the garage requires using the Solo mode. Enter Solo mode by using
the BACK key. Change characters to 3C-FD, and send him to the center security
console in the Main Hold. Now switch characters to T3 (Black button) and
send him to the Inner Garage Door such that he is right next to it (the
Inner Garage door is right by the Engine room). Switch back, use the console
access the security doors and close the outer garage door. This shuts T3 in
a little space. Open the Inner Garage door now. Log out and switch characters
with the Black button.
You are now in the garage. (50 XP) Nice hull breach there. The voiceover
tells you about the workbench. Go over and use the workbench. You want a
Repair Kit, which has a cost of 1 component. You should have that. If not,
you can break down (X) any other items you want, such as the Broken Items
you got when you bashed the locker earlier. Create the Repair Kit, (100 XP)
then use it on yourself, either straight from Inventory, or from the main
screen, D-Pad right to repair kit, select it and select T3.
Head up and right and into the Starboard dormitory (only if you opened it
while you were outside the ship). There are two footlockers in here with
Parts (4) and a Droid Flamethrower.
To get out, slide back to the door, switch droids and have 3C get you out.
End Solo mode.
The Engine Room:
Time to blow this sucker wide open. Head to the engine room, go near the
door, right on D-Pad to select Mine, and Mine the door. And get out of the
way.
Go up to the Hyperdrive and Rig the Hyperdrive (5 parts needed). (500 XP)
With all that, you should have gained about 1000 XP total, not enough for
a level, and it won't matter once T3 joins the Exile anyway.
End of Prologue:
Back to the cockpit, and hit the Galaxy Map on the left. Move over to
Peragus and we're done! Whee.
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2. Peragus :PRAGS:
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The Medical Wing
___ K - Kolto Tank, where you start
( K ) d - door
| | ___ __ D - Door Opened by Medical Console
---|d|-- __ | d__ A L - Lab Station
|x__D |CLD_M| |_ _| C - Medical Console
| d__| d S - Sealed until later
___|p|_ | | | | s - Security Desk
__S |_ ---_ ----_ ---S-_-d- A - Administrative Area
| _d _d _d _ s | M - Medical supply room
|___| --- ---- ----- --- x - Morgue
p - Door opened by Plasma Torch
The Exile's back, baby! Finally get to control the character you created.
After waking up to the mysterious voice of an old woman, you get control.
You have no items. No experience. No Force. Just some ugly brown "underoos."
Head down and through the door. To the right is the MORGUE DOOR, which you
can't open directly. Ahead and left through the door.
Open the Plasteel container and get the swag (Medpacs, probably, dang random
items). Note the Lab Station in here. Right now all you could do with it is
reduce your Medpacs to Chemicals. Not what we need right now. Use the
Medical Computer.
Medical Computer............................................................
. Access medical logs .
. - Access Log 253-12 - Holovid of woman logging in the Ebon Hawk .
. - Access Log 253-15 - Holovid "could be a Jedi" .
. - Access Log 253-18 - Holovid "droids acting oddly" .
. - Access main console options .
. Access patient lifesigns - shows list - returns to beginning .
. Access patient treatment - shows treatment - returns to beginning .
. - [Treat Injury - 1 REQ] Check the Last treatment request .
. - [Computer] Attempt to track the treatment request [Base Cost: .
. 1 Spike] .
. Access medical bay functions .
. - Access medical bay camera - shows medical bay .
. - Access morgue camera - shows morgue .
. - Unlock door to morgue - opens door to morgue .
. - [Computer] Unlock medical storage room [0 Spikes] - opens door behind .
. you - returns to beginning, removes "Access medical inventory" .
. - Access medical inventory .
. - Access main console options - returns to beginning .
. Log out .
...........................................................................
Use the medical computer to open the two doors, one to the morgue and the
other to the storeroom. (110 XP for the morgue door, 50 XP for the storage
room) Checking the last treatment with a [Treat Injury] is worth 50 XP.
You can't track it down until you get a Computer Spike, so keep that in mind.
Exit.
Enter the storeroom, and search the two Plasteel containers for Medpacs and
Chemicals. If you want, you have enough Chemicals to make another Medpac at
the lab station. Leave and head into the Morgue.
Two bodies in here. Search the one at the back for a Plasma Torch. At that,
the other body, Kreia, gets up and talks to you.
Note: I don't transcribe the conversations verbatim, I use ellipses (...)
to shorten their quotes. There should be enough to get a general
idea of what is going on.
Dialogue trees start with the quote of who you're talking to and a
code. Then a list of your possible replies, followed by where that
reply will take you in the tree. Any consequences of a particular
phrase will be listed before that dialogue option with a LSP, DSP,
+INF+ or -INF- for Light Side Point, Dark Side Point, Positive
Influence and Negative Influence respectively.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Find what you're looking for amongst the dead? .
. - I thought you were dead. > go to K2 .
. - Your voice -- I heard it as I floated in the kolto tank. > go to K3 .
. - Who are you? > go to K4 .
. K2: Close to death, yes, closer than I'd like...how do you feel? .
. - A little disoriented...was it your voice I heard in the Kolto tank? .
. > go to K3 .
. - The kolto tank left me a little drained...who are you? > go to K4 .
. - Enough with the false concern -- what do you want? > go to K4 .
. K3: I hoped as much...trained for such things? .
. - Just stay out of my mind in the future. Now what do you want? > K4 .
. -Slept too long? You looked dead when I came in. .
. > go to K2 .
. - So you can touch minds... and feign death. Who are you? > go to K4 .
. K4: I am Kreia, and I am your rescuer...what happened? .
. - Last thing I remember, I was on board a Republic ship...what happened .
. to it? > go to K5 .
. - I'm the one asking the questions. How did I get here? > go to K5 .
. K5: Your ship was attacked...Jedi training, no doubt. .
. - If you think I'm a Jedi, you're mistaken. > go to K6 .
. - I am no longer a member of the Jedi Order. > go to K6 .
. - How do you know I was a Jedi? > go to K6 .
. K6: Your stance, your walk...that weights you down. .
. - The Jedi Order and I have a ... troubled history. > go to K7 .
. - That is no business of yours. > go to K7 .
. - Let's deal with the now. What is this place? > go to K8 .
. K7: So it would seem...let us focus on the now. .
. - What is this place? > go to K8 .
. - All right - what's going on? How did we get here? > go to K8 .
. - Very well. How do we get out of here? > go to K8 .
. K8: I do not know...we should recover it and leave. .
. - Why do we need to leave? > go to K9 .
. - Care to explain why you're in such a hurry? > go to K9 .
. - "We?" Why do you think we are together in this? > go to K9 .
. K9: We were attacked once...find us easy prey indeed. .
. - [Awareness] You seem nervous, worried. Is something wrong? > K9a .
. - We'll see. There's got to be someone left alive around here. > K10 .
. - I'll go look for our ship - and some weapons. > K10 .
. - Is there anything else I should keep an eye out for? > K10 .
. K9a: ...we will need to depart as suddenly as we arrived. > K9 .
. K10: You may wish to extend your search for some clothes... .
. - [Persuade - 2 REQ] The patients in med bay were killed by a lethal .
. dose of sedatives. Any idea how that happened? > go to K10a .
. - [Persuade/Intimidate] The miners in the med bay were murdered. Know .
. why? > K10a .
. - Are you well enough to travel? > go to K11 .
. - LSP - I'll return soon to make sure you're all right. > go to K12 .
. - DSP - Just stay out of my way, or you'll end up like these corpses. .
. > go to K13 .
. K10a: I do not know, why did they spare you? .
. - They didn't. I got the same dose, but survived. >K10b .
. - I am trained to resist poisons of the body. > K10b .
. - Maybe I'll ask the killer when I find him -- or her. > K10 .
. K10b: It would prove lethal to those untrained...most curious. .
. - You seem to know a lot about Jedi techniques. > K10c .
. K10c: ...among them, finding our new enemy. .
. - Maybe when I return you'll actually answer my question. > K10 .
. K11: I'm not offering to help you... > back to K10 .
. K12: ...attempt to center myself. > Gain Light Side Point (LSP) .
. K13: ...attempt to center myself. > Gain Dark Side Point (DSP) .
...........................................................................
This conversation gives you your first Alignment Shift (LSP for light, DSP
for Dark, see above). Based on the last thing you say to her, you either
become more good or evil. This is common, and generally the only way that
this happens is through dialogues. So SAVE before every dialogue. Also, you
don't have to worry about it yet, but Influence will become a big concern
when talking to party members. Some things that you say will make them like
you more, or gain you some Influence with them. Conversely other things that
you say will make them like you less and you lose influence. Most positive
Influence dialogue options are Light Side oriented, but not all.
You can talk to Kreia immediately again, but to no point. Head out. Turn
right and go up to the damaged door. Press start to get to your inventory
screen, and equip your new PLASMA TORCH. Bash the door. (100 XP)
A Droid Infested Administration Level
Search the corpse for a Vibroblade, and equip it. A broken droid will have
some swag (Optimized Droid Interface). Take the left door to the hallway.
Two droids to fight here. Attack one, the second it is dead I typically use
the Trigger (left or right, though try to go in the direction of the next
baddie) and attack number two. This becomes a handy practice for later when
you want to chain together Master Flurries. Also you need to wait a second
to see if your defeated foes leave behind Remains (Mining Laser). I also use
the triggers when I'm near corpses to check for loot.
Note: If you are in combat with multiple foes, you will automatically
attack the next foe using the DEFAULT combat action, normal attack.
Since that isn't always the best thing to do, I got into the
trigger happy habit. Master Flurry > Kill > Trigger (pauses) >
Master Flurry > Kill > and so on...
Onward through the next door. Two more droids. Take them out and through the
next door. The Broken Droid sometimes has some loot. Check the Emergency
Hatch to the left to get a psychic message from Kreia. (dialogue doesn't
matter here) This is where we need to go next, but it is closed. Open the
other door to the Security room.
There is a Corpse here with Loot, and a Locked Locker. It's better to use
Security than bashing, but do what you must. Use the Security Desk, access
the logs and check "Administration console 'maintenance.'" Log out. Open the
next door, and Kreia will psychically warn you about the droids in the next
room. You also gain the Force Power: Precognition. (110 XP)
Take out the three droids, and you should have enough to gain a level.
Kreia will reintroduce you to the Force at this time, and you also gain
Force points. The two force powers that are really handy right here are
either Stun Droid or Energy Resistance. Shock if you're going Dark Side is
also good.
Note: You will gain a level in this room, either after killing 2 droids,
(if you followed this walkthrough and used Security in the previous
room) or after 3. When that happens, you can either level up
immediately or wait. This brings up this fact: Leveling up heals you
completely. Not much to it now, but later you can hold your levels
until you need healing. This is only worth it in the thick of battle,
as being one level higher is very valuable.
Also, at this level up, I'd take the Force Power, Energy Resistance.
It provides some protection from energy based attacks, like the
droid's blaster fire. Watch as their puny weapons no longer harm you!
There are two locked Footlockers here. Security or Bash them open. You will
find a Stealth Field Generator and some Loot, Ion Grenades and Medpacs. Ion
Grenades will take out droids in a single shot, should you need it. I'd keep
them for the T3 segment coming up. You can use the Stealth Field Generator to
sneak past things should you so desire.
Administration Center
___
/ A - Atton
--| | S - Sealed Door
|A S | c - Console, opens sealed door
--| | | R - Ramp, some treasures
_| | |____ _ d - door that opens later
Enter_ | ___d_ F F - To Fuel Depot
| _ _ |
| |
/ / c
/ / _/ / _----
Dock ____/ ____ R |
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Head through the next door to the Administration Center. There are six
droids scattered around this giant mess of a room. Now, either kill them all,
or sneak over to the console first and use the Override. If you use the
Console then the droids lose their drive to kill you (400 XP) and can then be
scavenged for parts. You get more XP for killing them, then using the console
just to open the door.
If you did kill them all, then head down to the computer and use it. Your
character will find the override switch that releases a force field on a door
behind you. (100 XP) There are also a couple of plasteel containers on the
small level below you, each with a Medpac. There are a couple more droids up
the lower right rampway, plus a plasteel container.
Once that is all done, head over to the formerly sealed Door. Kreia gives you
another vision, and shows you Atton Rand. He might yet prove useful...
Atton.......................................................................
. A1: Nice outfit...while I've been in here? .
. - Who are you? > A2 .
. - FEMALE CHAR - I'd keep those eyes up, and tell me who you are. > A2 .
. - MALE CHAR - You got a name? Or just a big mouth? > A2 .
. - Care to explain why you're locked up? > A3c .
. - What is this place? > A3 .
. - This facility's deserted. What happened? > A4 .
. - I don't have time for this. Tell me what happened here. Now. > A4 .
. A2: Atton... Atton Rand... only causes mild electrical burns. > A1 .
. A3: You mean you didn't come here on purpose?...blowing yourself up. .
. - Blowing yourself up? > A3a .
. - This facility doesn't sound too safe. > A3a .
. - Who are you? > A2 .
. - This facility's deserted. What happened? > A4 .
. - I don't have time for this. Tell me what happened here. Now. > A4 .
. A3a: Yeah... look like a kid's pop detonator. .
. - Peragus II? > A3b .
. - How big of an explosion are we talking about? > A3b .
. - Who are you? > A2 .
. - This facility's deserted. What happened? > A4 .
. - I don't have time for this. Tell me what happened here. Now. > A4 .
. A3b: ... turn the entire colony into a thermal detonator. .
. - So you're not a miner. Who are you, then? > A2 .
. - Is that why you were locked up? > A3c .
. - This facility's deserted. What happened? > A4 .
. - I don't have time for this. Tell me what happened here. Now. > A4 .
. A3c: ...they stopped feeding me. Now that's criminal. .
. - Maybe I could help if you told me who you are. > A2 .
. - So you're not a miner. Who are you, then? > A2 .
. - What is this place? > A3 .
. - This facility's deserted. What happened? > A4 .
. - I don't have time for this. Tell me what happened here. Now. > A4 .
. A4: You mean before or after...ask a bunch of questions. .
. - There's a bounty on captured Jedi? Why? > A6 .
. - The Exchange? > A5 .
. A5: The Exchange is a big crime outfit... bounties on Jedi. .
. - Why would they offer a bounty on Jedi? > A6 .
. - The Exchange is trying to kill Jedi? > A6 .
. - Were the Jedi interfering with the Exchanges operations? > A6 .
. A6: ...wouldn't surprise me if the bounty's pretty high .
. - Not many Jedi left? What happened to them? > A7 .
. - Did the Exchange wipe them all out? > A7 .
. A7: ...not even a Jedi council anymore, but who knows? .
. - I had heard rumors of a war -- but a war between Jedi? > A8 .
. - The stories I heard were of the Sith, not the Jedi. > A8 .
. - Was it caused by the Mandalorian Wars? > A8 .
. A8: Yeah, Revan, Malak...where've you been? .
. - I've heard a few rumors, but little else in my travels. > A9 .
. - I've been... away since the Mandalorian Wars. > A9 .
. - Just tell me what happened next. > A9 .
. - What happened between Revan and Malak? > A9 .
. - I couldn't care less about Revan's fate. I had other questions for you.
. > A12 .
. - I've heard enough. Let me ask you about something else. > A12 .
. A9: Well, I wasn't there...after they turned on the Jedi, of course. .
. - The rumors I heard said Revan defeated Malak, then went to Korriban .
. to unite the Sith against the Republic > sets Revan to Dark Side .
. > A10 .
. - I was led to believe that Revan saved the Jedi -- and the Republic .
. > sets Revan to Light Side > A10a .
. - I couldn't care less about Revan's fate. I had other questions for you.
. - I've heard enough. Let me ask you about something else. .
. A10: That was the rumor...grand crusade finally consumed her. .
. - How long have you been in that cage? Revan was a man, not a woman > .
. sets Revan to Male > A11 .
. - I am not surprised... Revan lived for battle. She could not easily .
. turn away from war -- or death. > sets Revan to Female > A11 .
. A10a: I guess... there's rumors... you know women. > A10 replies .
. A11: Maybe you're right... .
. - I had some more questions for you. > A12 .
. - This discussion about Revan is pointless. I need to know what happened.
. here. > A12 .
. - Enough history. Let me ask you about something else. > A12 .
. A12: ...Where is everybody? .
. - I don't know -- this facility seems abandoned. > A13 .
. - Don't you know what happened to them? > A13 .
. - Stop playing dumb -- you must have seen what took place. > A13 .
. A13: The miners can't all...I've gotten out of trouble countless times. .
. - [Persuade - 1 REQ] Tell me your plan, and we can go from there. > A15 .
. - How can you help? > A14 .
. - I don't think so. > A14 .
. - Seems to me you were locked up for a reason. > A13 again .
. - How could you possibly be of any use to me? > A14 .
. A14: ...but nothing'll stop this place from going critical. .
. - Do you have some plan for getting out of here? > A15 .
. - Somewhere in your idiotic rant, you failed to explain how you can be .
. of any use to me. > A15 .
. A15: This facility isn't a military...and then we fly out of here. .
. - [Persuade] One thing first... the patients in the medical bay were .
. killed with a lethal dose of sedatives. Know anything about that? .
. > A15b .
. - [Persuade/Intimidate] The miners in the med bay were murdered. .
. Know why? > A15b .
. - Why don't you tell me what to do, and then we'll see. > A15a .
. - I might be able to fly a ship out of here without you. > A15 again, .
. remove first two options .
. - LSP - I trust you. And if we work together, we may be able to get out .
. of this mess. > Light Side Point > A16 .
. - DSP - I'll switch off the cage, but if you try and run, I'll cut you .
. down without a second thought. > Dark Side Point > A16 .
. - All right, I'll let you out. > A16 .
. A15a: No deal. If I'm not leaving, you're not leaving. .
. - No, I don't think so. > A15 .
. - LSP - I trust you. And if we work together, we may be able to get out .
. of this mess. > Light Side Point > A16 .
. - DSP - I'll switch off the cage, but if you try and run, I'll cut you .
. down without a second thought. > Dark Side Point > A16 .
. - All right, I'll let you out. > A16 .
. A15b: Huh? What are you talking about? .
. - Wanted to know if you knew anything -- and you don't. > A15 .
. - Never mind. Just checking. > A15 .
. A16: Great, now to business. Let's get to the command console. .
. - All right, let's go. > A17 .
. - Just stay ahead of me and don't make any sudden moves. > A17 .
. A17: ... cancel the emergency lockdown and HEY! .
. - What's wrong? > A18 .
. - Sounds like you're about to tell me something I don't want to hear. .
. > A18 .
. - If I hear any more bad news, I'm going to get violent. > A18 .
. A18: This system's been severed...it's been cut clean. .
. - [Repair - 1 REQ] That wouldn't be standard procedure in an emergency .
. lockdown. > A19 .
. - Is that part of the lockdown? > A19 .
. - Did someone do it on purpose? > A19 (with different Atton line) .
. A19: No, someone tried to lock down...and leave us here. Trapped. .
. - Is there anything else we can do with this console? > A20 .
. - There must be some way to end the lockdown from here. > A20 .
. A20: I doubt it. All we have is communications... .
. - Can we contact the miners? > A21 .
. - Let's see if we can try and reach someone on the comm. > A22 .
. A21: We could try...a friendly call is going to wake them up. .
. - Let's see if we can try and reach someone on the comm. > A22 .
. - Maybe there's something logged in the terminal that can give us some .
. answers. > A22 .
. - Cut the backtalk and let me check the console. > A22 .
. A22: ... the comm's all yours. > END .
...........................................................................
Only three things to do in Atton's conversation, besides learn recent
history. Set Revan's sex and alignment and get a Light/Dark side point.
Generally speaking, all lines about "I trust you" give light side points
and eventually positive influence as well. Dark Side points are more elusive.
As you can see on the dialogue tree, you only have the chance for one DSP,
however, you can say a number of mean things. Generally statements of hate
and manipulation are the only ones that lead to DSPs.
As he said, the Comm's yours. Activate it. The logs just show you some
Holovids of the station manager dealing with your arrival. Use the comm
system and talk to hangar 25 and T3. What you say specifically doesn't
matter, you switch to play as T3.
T3's Grand Adventure
___
| _ | S - Sealed Door (Mine only)
|| || + - Door
|| ||_---___ 1 - T3 begins here
=2_||__+ 1 S_| 2 - to Fuel Depot Sublevel, for Parts and a Mine
|_+_| 3 - Console to open 4
| | 4 - Door to Fuel Depot
__/ ||| 5 - To Fuel Depot
/ 4 3 6 6 - Door we can't open until later
/ /-----
/ /
| | Ebon Hawk
__ +
5=__+_|
Make sure to equip T3 with any items you found earlier, then start exploring.
There are three doors in this room, one we can't open, one that leads nowhere
and our eventual goal. First, open the two Footlockers and search the
Broken droid for some shinies. Using the map to orient you, open the "left"
door.
Fight the two droids, get the remains and go down the ramp. Use an Ion
Grenade if you spot a droid at the bottom of the ramp. Works like a charm.
Note: Grenades are only really useful at the beginning of the game. After
a point they just don't do enough damage. So, no point saving them.
There's another droid at this level, and a plasteel container with loot.
Continue to the bottom and open the door. This leads to...
The Peragus Fuel Depot, T3 Rolls On...
Search the Broken Droid for components, open the door, slide through, open
the next door and fight some more droids. The corpse ahead has a datapad,
an Ion Striker (equip it, and use it on droids) and best yet, MINES. Next,
search the Broken Droid for precious Parts. Back to the ramps.
T3 Saves the Day
Watch the cutscene of droids returning to the ramps, and powering up their
shields. Bullies. Roll up the ramp and take them out with Ion grenades or
your new Ion Striker.
At the top, set a mine on the Sealed Door. Hey, there's 3CFD... he don't work
no more. Oh well. Search the two plasteel cylinders and the footlocker for
treasures. Now for the lower door. Open it and slide through. Cutscene as we
look at a somewhat repaired Ebon Hawk in the docking bay. Go up the ramp, and
take the items from the two footlockers. Use the Console.
[Repair] Replace the missing parts with the parts you found down the other
ramp. Now, you can access the Hangar Logs for more background on this place,
you can also try to use the comms or even upload a map (not needed and it
costs you a Spike). Access emergency control commands, run a diagnotic,
check status of emergency systems, then [Computer] Open blast door to the
fuel depot, using a Spike. You can't open the door to Hangar 25 yet.
(160 XP) Also check the Hangar Logs to Access docking and takeoff procedures.
Attempt to get the data, but you fail. (50 XP)
Slide down the ramp, and into the now open door to the fuel depot. Use the
Ion Striker on the droids in this hallway, one shot will kill them. Three
dead and through the next door. The Broken Droid here has some droid items.
Hope you get something good. (Random) Open the door to the right and kill
two more droids. The Striker rules. There is a footlocker immediately to the
left, get the stuff and go through the next door.
Straight ahead, then left and use the Fuel Control Station. Looking at the
System log shows you how this lockdown got started, but we really only need
to hit the emergency system schematics, then open the emergency hatch on
Peragus Administration level. Log out, and watch T3 get his ... reward.
Our Hero
Female Exiles get an interesting exchange with Atton here, then Atton asks
about that droid when you find the door opening. In this small exchange with
Atton, trying to force him to go down the fuel level gives you a Dark Side
Point, while nobly telling him that you'll do it because the life of a Jedi
is self sacrifice you get a Light Side Point. (250 XP)
Wander up the lower right rampway, to a small room with two droids. You can
examine them with [Computer] to try to learn why they're acting up (60 XP)
and can also [Computer] change their settings to defend organics, or [Repair]
scavenge them for parts. Or [Detonations] blow them up. A plasteel container
here has components. Head back down.
T3 opened the emergency hatch where we had our first vision from Kreia at.
It's roughly "left" of your position, back through the hallways. Head that
way to the Peragus Mining Tunnels.
Peragus Mining Tunnels
__ ___ _--
|+ ---- ---- + -- F - Fuel Pump
> h__---| F -__ | C - Console
| | / _ / / S - Security Door
/ | / |+| | | F | + - treasure
| F| _ - | / m - mines
-- +| __ | +__ h - heated tunnel, use Telos Shld
| |_ | F / __ b - broken droid, repairable
|+ /+___ | +C | F+
/b _/+/ __ __/ _
/ / +/
| F | / _/m/
/ __m / | F |
/+/ +| | F | /m _
/ / _ / _ __/ / + _
/ +_ S/ ___ / | F
| F | _ Exit
/m/ +
|| -
_
|_
|+|
Go forward, and Atton will contact you via the Comms. What you say to him
doesn't change Light/Dark side, and won't Influence him. He simply gives
advice on what you should be doing here... which is what I'm doing. You can
tell him to shut up at any time and he will stop bugging you. I, however,
will continue to bother you with incessant advice.
Through the door we find a barrel full of swag: Miner Uniform, Survey Gear,
Telos Mining Shield, a Safety Harness and a Medpac. Equip everything you got.
The Broken droid will also have some items. Next door, and another door to
the next room.
There is a large, orange fuel pump in this room, and three more hallways
shoot off from it in each direction. Two are dead ends, so we want to go
right to the first dead end. There are two sonic mines here. Try to recover
them, for XP (about 30 XP each, or 20 XP for disarming, again this goes up
as you gain levels) and to use them later. Behind the mines is a
broken droid. Search for more items. Back out of this dead end, go right and
into the next dead end. (Despite the door, you can't go any further this way)
Search this broken droid as well. Back out and up the last hallway.
There is a damaged mining droid here that you can [Repair] if you have the
skill--and parts--for it. (30 XP for shield, 30 XP for targetting, 60 XP for
patrol mode) If you can, and need the help fighting, it makes a good ally,
even if it won't go very far. The [Demolitions] commands destroy it, but you
get nothing for it.
Head through into the cave and start fighting droids. When you see
"Maintenance droids" be sure to target them first, from a distance if you
can. These guys will heal the other droids, and when they die, they explode.
A little ways up will be another broken droid to search. Continue up the
cavern. Remember to use your grenades and force abilities to help out.
There will be another orange fuel pump to the right, with a Corpse that you
can search. Straight ahead from that will be another corpse at the top of
the cave. Now, either use a Telos Mining Shield, or the force power,
Energy Resistance, and go through the steamy right passage. The Telos Mining
Shield won't last the entire length, so you'll either take damage, or be
forced to use it again. These things aren't worth much, so do it. This leads
to a mine (Recover it for XP, by this point I'm getting 45 XP per mine) and
more droids by another orange fuel pump.
This fuel pump also has two dead end hallways on it, go over and search them.
The first one on the right has nothing, the second is double mined and hides
a Corpse with treasures. Head out the right cavern.
There is a Broken Droid here with treasures, followed by some more lively
droids, including another Maintenance Droid. If you keep your energy
resistance force power up, their flame throwers will be useless. You can also
use the Telos mining shield again. Forward a little farther to the Fuel
Containment area.
Fuel Containment
There are two droids here, one to the right one to the left. Once they're
dispatched, search the Corpse on the pathway for treasures, head to the
center, search the plasteel (locked) for more treasures, then use the
console. Quite a number of things that we can do with this console, depending
on our skill set. In the camera mode, is a holovid of Coorta's conspiracy.
Interesting... The only thing that you must do here is in the containment
fields section, and shut down the containment fields. This opens up the way
out. Most useful of all are the Droid Commands. With [Computer] and Spikes,
you can do: (Based cost, 2 spikes)
"Add other droids to attack protocol"
"Cancel all droid mining on organics" - 900 XP and they stop attacking you,
if you do this, then you can't kill them for XP later, but it is about
the same amount you would have gotten by killing them. If they get in
your way you can dialog with them to [Repair] Scavenge for Components
and [Demolitions] Blow them up, but you won't get XP for it. Only the
droids in the containment fields are affected by this, ones you
encounter shortly won't be.
"Reassign droid mining protocols to mine sealed doors." - do this if you
don't have Security high enough to open a High Security door, otherwise
skip it.
Check droid schematics - If you have a high INT you can recognize a
weakness in their design, and with [Computer] and NO Spikes, raise the
temperature causing the droids to ignore you. Personally I prefer this
action, as the Remains left behind are often better than a single
Component.
Then go around to each of the four fuel pumps, destroy the droids, search
remains (if any). The "left" fuel pump has a broken droid near it with loot.
The "right" fuel pump has a corpse with loot. Once you have cleared this part
of enemies and items, go to the "bottom" fuel pump. The bottom-left passage
has a High Security Door (I got 15 XP for opening it, it will already be
open if you set the droids to "mine doors"). Go that way first to another
fuel pump.
This lower left fuel pump has three dead ends, the two straight halls on the
sides have broken droids with loot, the third, a cavern has a mined passage
that leads to a corpse. Recover mines and loot. Back up to the last fuel
pump and take a right. Atton should contact you to tell you that by shutting
down the fuel containment, you are about the blow this level up. Don't worry,
you have unlimited time here, and you're almost there. The droids here will
be hostile again if you changed their orders earlier. (But they still won't
attack you if you changed the temperature)
Recover the two mines and head on. There's another Maintenance droid here,
make sure to pop it from a distance, they explode. Kill the droids and
search for remains. The "top" dead end here has a mine and a "damaged"
plasteel container. You have to use a mine on it to open it, which is
really convenient that there's a mine right there. Any mine will do, so use
a "minor sonic mine." There's some basic treasure inside (random).
The only way to go is right. Search the corpse, then fight the droids. If
you've done everything so far, you should be level 4 by now. Though just
barely. At level 3 I made Repair a class skill, so at level 4 I dumped all
my skill points into that giving me 6's in all skills except stealth. But
that was for a Jedi Sentinal. A Guardian, who gets a feat at level 4, will
probably want something in the "Improved XYZ" category, where XYZ is a combat
feat. Like Flurry. Of course, if you haven't been Recovering Mines and using
Security, you won't be level 4.
Well that's it for this level. Onward and upward.
Maintenance, Peragus Fuel Depot
Enter
___| |___ HK - HK-50
|+++d d + | d - door
___ T ____|W | |HK | D - Damaged Door
| c+d | | |___d d___| W - Workbench
__ __|___| |_|s_D_|___| |_______ C - Containment Field, Impassable
Exit A__d__S__d___d_________________ | s - Security Door
to |C| c - Console
Space! Area where + - Treasures
T3 got S - Sealed Door (use Console)
Fragged A - Airlock Outer Door, to SPACE
T - Turbolift to main level
We enter, and watch a cutscene of ourselves walking up to the former
Maintenance officer before talking to HK-50. Most his dialogue options also
give the option to "ask other questions" and "enough. bye." You get 200 XP
for learning what happened to you at the Harbinger and the Ebon Hawk. There
are two Light/Dark answers as well, depending on whether you want to help the
miners or kill the miners. One you get by asking about the hangar, the
other by following his main line of recent history. Ask about the body to
learn that he can mimic voices, you can even hear him mimic the code if
you're persuasive enough. Then stop talking to him.
HK-50.......................................................................
. HK1: Greeting: It is a pleasure...How may I be of assistance? .
. - How do you know me? I'm not your master. > HK2 .
. - Tell me what you're doing here before I turn you into slag. .
. > available only the first time you talk to him > HK2 .
. - What are you? > HK2a .
. - Have you seen a T3 unit? > HKT3a .
. - I'm looking for a way into the Peragus hangar bay. > HKHang .
. - What's that body there? > HKBody .
. - Never mind. I'll be going now. > END .
. HKHang: Pitying Answer: Oh that is unfortunate, master... .
. - What about override codes? > HKHang2 .
. - Then how did the T3 unit get through it? > HKHang1 .
. HKHang1: ...the automated systems most likely have corrected. > HKHang .
. HKHang2: Only the Peragus administration officer... .
. - Is it possible to contact him using a commlink? > HKHang3 .
. - There must be another way to reach the dormitory. > HKHang4 .
. - If I crawled through mining tunnels to get here, there's likely to .
. be other tunnels. > HKHang4 .
. HKHang3: Apology: Unfortunately, communication with the...and terror. .
. - There must be another way. .
. - Satisfaction? > HKHang3a .
. HKHang3a: Rapid Retraction: Why, yes, satisfaction...ship arrives. .
. - We don't know what happened to them, so we need to find out. > HKHang4.
. - There must be a way to reach them. .
. HKHang4: Theory: You could walk across the surface of the asteroid to... .
. - LSP - Those miners could be hurt or in danger -- we need to make sure .
. they're all right. > HKHang5 .
. - DSP - I only want the codes those miners have -- and when I have the .
. codes, I'll dispose of them and leave this rock. > HKHang5 .
. HKHang5: Warning: Master, continued...as we continue this pointless... .
. - I'm going to find those miners, and you're going to help me. .
. - Another suggestion like that, and I'll turn you into scrap. > HKHang6 .
. - I'm your Master, and I'm giving you an order to assist me. > HKHang6 .
. HKHang6: Weary Resignation: Very well, master. But there is very... .
. - All right. SO how do I get the code to the airlock? > HKHang7 .
. - This just keeps getting better and better. Who's got the damn code? .
. > HKHang7 .
. HKHang7: Correction: Oh, I already possess the code, Master... .
. - What do you mean? > HKHang8 .
. - I'll be the judge of that. > HKHang8 .
. - If you have the code, then give it to me. .
. HKHang8: Condescending Explanation: Master...as the rest of the organics. .
. - Voiceprinted? > HKHang11 .
. - You said you already have the code? > HKHang9 .
. - But you do know the code. > HKHang9 .
. HKHang9: Condescending Explanation: Oh yes, Master...it is useless. .
. - Then how can I bypass the voiceprint? > HKHang10 .
. - If the maintenance officer is dead, how can I get him to speak the .
. code? > HKHang10 .
. HKHang10: Answer: Master, you cannot. You are trapped here... .
. -You can mimic voices. Can't you speak .
. the code? > HKBody2 .
. HKHang11: Explanation: Yes, Master. many consoles have voice... > HKHang8 .
. HKBody: Answer: That is all that remains...piece of asteroid rock. .
. - Screams? > HKBody1 .
. - Did he say anything at the end? > HKBody1 .
. HKBody1: Recitation: Oh yes, master...to beg for his life. .
. -Wait -- if you can playback .
. his voice, can't you speak the voice code? > HKBody2 .
. HKBody2: Objection: Master! To commit such an act would be in violation....
. - Believed to possess? > HKBody3 .
. - [Persuade] The fact you can mimic voices is pretty impressive. What .
. would it sound like if you did speak the code to the console? .
. > HKBody4 .
. - [Persuade] I understand if your limited functionality prevents you .
. from mimicking the maintenance officer's voice accurately. > HKBody4 .
. HKBody3: Irritated Statement: Master, if you insist on echoing... .
. - > back to HKBody2 .
. HKBody4: Proud Answer: Master...was that sufficient master? .
. - Can you follow me and say that again? > HKBody5 .
. - Tell me again about the voiceprint protocol. > HKHang8 .
. HKBody5: Alarmed Objection: Oh, Master, no...a trait I'm not proud of .
. - Looks like I'll need a to find some way to carry your voice there, .
. or record it. > HKBody6 .
. HKBody6: Confused Query: I am sorry, Master. Were you... .
. - Tell me again about the voiceprint protocol. > HKHang8 .
. HKT3a: Hesitant Answer: Ah. A T3 utility droid...place to look. .
. - The unit was last seen near the hangar. > HKT3b .
. HKT3b: Answer: Ah... then that would explain why such a T3... .
. - Then maybe you can answer something else for me. > HK1 .
. HK2: Answer: I am a survivor...the only organic which I may now serve. .
. - Who was your previous Master? > HK3 .
. - How did you get here from the Harbinger -- and how did I? > HK4 .
. - Tell me everything that happened between the Harbinger and now. > HK4 .
. - I had some other questions I wanted to ask you. > HK1 .
. - I've heard enough. I'll be going now. > END .
. HK2a: Proud Answer:.....from irony to veiled threats. .
. - What's a translation droid doing on Peragus? > HK2c .
. - Veiled threats? > HK2b .
. HK2b: Clarification: Oh, yes, Master...stubborn of negotiations. > HK2a .
. HK2c: Irritated Explanation:... disaster area as quickly as possible .
. - What have you determined? > HK2d .
. HK2d: Answer: It is only a matter of time before a ship or freighter... .
. - Wait all you want, but I'm getting out of here on my own. > HK2e .
. - I never said you were coming with me. .
. HK2e: Condescending Retraction: I believe you will do your best... .
. - Leave "condescending" out of your speech conditionals from now on .
. or else. > HK2f .
. HK2f: Placating Answer: Oh, of course, Master... > basic questions only .
. HK3: Answer: The captain of the Harbinger...we did not arrive... .
. - What happened? > HK4 .
. - other answers from HK2 .
. HK4: Irritated answer: Oh master...to our current situation. .
. - Why don't you tell me anyway? > HK5 .
. - For a droid, you don't take orders too well. Now tell me what .
. happened. > HK5 .
. HK5: Hesistant explanation:... the cascade failure that disabled the ship..
. - How come I don't remember any of this? > HK6 .
. - And where was I when this was taking place? > HK6 .
. HK6: Speculation: It is possible you were...master. .
. - Incapacitated? > removed as an option > HK7 .
. - Locked? > HK9 .
. - But how did I get from the Harbinger to here? > HK10 .
. HK7: Clarification: Yes, master... you could not awaken. Most curious. .
. - Drugged?! What do you mean drugged? > HK8 .
. - Maybe you better explain the "stupor" part. > HK8 .
. HK8: Placation: Merely a turn of phrase...securely in the cargo hold. .
. - Locked? > HK9 .
. - Care you to explain how I was locked in the cargo hold? > HK9 .
. - So I wasn't sealed in the cargo hold -- someone locked me in. > HK9 .
. HK9: Clarification: By locked, I meant "sealed," Master... .
. - Fine -- what happened next? > HK10 .
. - But how did I get from the Harbinger to here? > HK10 .
. HK10: (100 XP) Recitation: Following the...have survived, master. .
. - Any idea what had attacked the small freighter? > HK11 .
. - What was this freighter that the Harbinger brought on board? > HK12 .
. - Why would they take me aboard? > HK12 .
. HK11: (100 XP) Evaluation: Master, I do not know...to be sure. > HK10 .
. HK12: Explanation: I believe it was a smuggler's...rob me of my bounty. .
. - Bounty? > HK13 .
. - And the Ebon Hawk came here? > HK14 .
. HK13: Clarification: By bounty, I refer to your life... .
. - And the Ebon Hawk came here? > HK14 .
. - Why did the Ebon Hawk come here? > HK14 .
. - But why would that ship have taken me off the Harbinger? > HK14 .
. HK14: Apology: My memory core cannot provide... became much clearer. .
. - How so? > HK15 .
. - What happened once the ship arrived? > HK15 .
. HK15: Explanation: Despite my market value...because you were a Jedi. .
. - How did they find out I was a Jedi? > HK16 .
. - Why would someone want me captured? > HK15a .
. HK15a: I do not know, Master. I found it curious as well... > HK15 .
. HK16: Surprised Answer: Why I told them...notoriously spotty. .
. - 'Unpleasantness?' What are you talking about? > HK17 .
. - That information wouldn't have been in coreward databases... only in .
. Jedi archives. > HK16a .
. HK16a: Indignant Excalamation: Master, I am only a protocol droid... .
. - Potential hostilities? > HK16b .
. - So, what happened with the miners when we arrived? > HK17 .
. HK16b: Quick Clarification: Apparently, my vocabulator has suffered... .
. - I see... go on > HK18 .
. - So, what happened with the miners when we arrived? > HK17 .
. HK17: Answer: All that has happened, has been...other group opposed this. .
. - Then what happened? > HK18 .
. HK18: Three standard hours after the division... .
. - So what happened to the rest of the miners? > HK19 .
. HK19: Many miners began to join you in the medical bay... .
. - Sadly enough? What do you mean? > HK20 .
. HK20: You see, the explosions had damaged specific sections... .
. - Are there any left alive? > HK21 .
. - Are you responsible for all this? > HK22 .
. HK21: Answer: I do not know, Master. Ironically enough... .
. - LSP - Then I need to get there to rescue them. > HK21a .
. - DSP - Forget them, then. I need to get into the hangar bay and get .
. off this rock. > HKHang .
. HK21a: It is unlikely any miners remain alive. As I said... > HKHang2 .
. HK22: Defensive Answer:...fashioned from proton missile cores. .
. - I think you are responsible. > HK23 .
. HK23: Admission: I cannot and will not attempt to change your mind... .
. -Do you know .
. who administered sedatives into the kolto tanks in the medical bay, .
. killing the incapacitated miners? > HK24 .
. HK24: Conjecture: The administration of a large dose...quite inventive. .
. - Inventive?! Those miners were murdered! > HK25 .
. - Is that pride I hear in your voice? > HK25 .
. HK25: Answer: I was merely...the highest form of hypocrisy. > basic Q's .
...........................................................................
Search the maintenance officer for some loot, then leave the room and enter
the room across the hall. There are three Broken Droids here you can search
for components. Best yet, however, is the Plasteel container with the Sonic
Imprint Sensor (and a Datapad explaining it, 50 XP). There's also a workbench
in here. You have components as well, and if you have any skills you can
fabricate items. I would recommend upgrading your Miner's Outfit and any
weapon you can. Make items to upgrade them with if you can.
Note: Although the Miner's Outfit can support upgrading, it isn't actually
"armor," so most upgrades won't work with it. What will work,
however are the Environment Underlay and the Biorestorative Underlay.
I'd do the Environment Underlay Mk I or II if you can. As you'll be
confronting some Cold weapons very soon.
As for weapons, anything that works against Droids works well here.
Make sure to take note, some upgrades add requirements to the weapon
you add them to. Most noteably the Vibration Cell requires that you
have the feat Weapon Focus (Melee) to use the weapon with it
attached.
Head back to HK, armed, so to speak, with the Sonic Sensor. Do the
first [Sonic Sensor] option, you don't need his "last words," but it gives
50 XP. Follow the lines from Hangar to Voiceprint to Code to Mimic Voice, and
then [Persuade+Sonic Sensor] to trick him into giving you the code. (250 XP)
If you don't get this option, you don't have enough Persuade. I know you
need more than +1 with it. Don't worry, there's another way to do this for
you non-Persuasive types.
Head down the hall to the next door. There are a couple droids to the left,
which dead-ends, and a couple droids to the right. Go right. As you go near
the door, it opens, revealing the MkII droid, a slightly nastier droid.
Kill them, then turn back to look at the two doors to the right. One is
locked, and can be opened with Security. The other is damaged, and must be
opened with Bash (Plasma Torch works well). Remember you get XP for Security
but none for Bashing. There's one droid in here. Nothing else, so leave
that room, and enter the one at the end of the hall.
More droids in and around here. There is a closed door ahead, and an open
passage to the right, go that way. Straight ahead is a Turbolift back to the
main level. If you got the message from HK and already accessed the medbay
computer, you can skip this, otherwise, go up the Turbolift. Head straight
back to the Security Desk, watch the Logs, and select the [Sonic Sensor]
option to record another message. (50 XP) If you have a Computer Spike, skill
in Computers and Treat Injury, now you can head back to the Medlab computer
to start tracing who ordered the druggings. (150 XP) Once that is done, head
back down the Turbolift (it's the one on the "right" side of the
administration room), then enter the small room immediately to your right.
Use the Maintenance station here. Check the System ID signature to figure out
that the druggings were ordered from here. (100 XP) Use the [Sonic Sensor]
to log in, then Open Door to airlock. (750 XP) If you didn't get the Code
from HK-50, you can [Destroy the Console] (250 XP), which also opens the
door. Or if you got the [Sonic Sensor] options of the Dying Message from HK,
and at the Security Desk, access the logs here and use [Sonic Sensor] to
record the last message. (50 XP) Now, if you didn't get the code from HK, you
now have enough messages on the sensor to log in, and can open the door. (you
get the same 750 XP like you would have with HK's message) There is a locked
Plasteel cylinder in here as well with some swag. Exit this room, right, then
right to the Door.
Get some ranged attack ready, then open it and blast the Floating Mines away.
They explode, so don't get close. A blaster works just fine, though I prefer
the Force. (Stun Droid, Shock) Go through, open the Airlock Inner Door,
search the Storage Locker for the Space Suit, use a Telos Energy Shield or
Energy Resistance, then exit the Airlock Outer Door... to SPACE!
Space... The Current Frontier
Just walk across the platform until you get stopped by Atton's comm. If you
don't have some protection from Heat on, you will take damage from the plasma
vents. You can just try to stay to the outer edge of the scaffolding, or
either the force power energy resistance or the Telos Mining Shield works OK.
Tell Atton your plan, then watch the Harbinger arrive. Hmm... that can't be
good. That unpleasant fellow meditating in the midst of all the corpses would
be Darth Sion. Lovely chap.
The Dormitories
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ d - damaged door (mine)
| || || || | | || || ||d| * - Locked Down Door
( west dorm ) ( east dorm ) c - Console (opens Locked Down Door)
|d|| || || | | || || || | D - Doorway
- - - - / / - - B - Breath Mask
______/ / h - corpse with special datapad
_D_*__D/ w - workbench
---- ---- ___
/ _c_ (B_ )
|_D_/ _D_| /
_| |_ _| |_| |_
|_ _|_ _ h _|
|_D_| |_D_| |_ _|
| | |___| _||
| D |___Exit
|-D-|
|_w_|
We've got company, so time to get cracking. Head up through the Airlock
door, kill the two droids here, open the Plasteel container, get your swag,
and go through the next door.
Another Droid to kill, and another corpse to loot. Open the security door at
the "lower" end of this room. Open the 4 lockers (2 are locked) for some
shinies. Then, if you have an environmental underlay, be sure to Upgrade
your Miner's Outfit with it. You'll be facing Cold Turrets (Called Automated
Fire Extinguishers), and the droids in this area all have Cold attacks. In
addition to the damage, Cold will also freeze your for 3 or so seconds. Head
out and up through the next door.
The Cold turrets can be taken out at range. If you stay past the door they
can't hit you. Ion Grenade or Blasters work here. Two dead end passages here,
right (Broken Droid with shines) and left (mines and a Corpse). Head out and
up through the next door.
Note: Even if all the damage from a Cold attack is removed, there is the
chance of freezing. Freezing not only stops you for a few seconds,
it removes your attack actions. Don't forget to attack again once
you thaw.
Here you see the Fire Suppression Droids. They use a Cold attack as well,
and are harder to take out at range.
Go to the right, clear out any droids around, then use the console opposite
from the door, the "Shift Assignment" console: (pick one)
[Repair] Reroute the main console (60 XP, base cost, 1 part)
[Computer] Slice the system (60 XP, base cost, 1 spike)
[Destroy] the Console to open the door (250 XP)
At this point, I had so many more Parts than Spikes, but mileage may vary
(depending on whether you repaired the Broken Droid at the Fuel Containment
Level). Once repaired/sliced, "End dormitory emergency lockdown" to open the
door to the dormitories. Once done, access the Camera controls, and look at
either of the Dormitories:
[Computer] Shut down dormitory ventilation (210 XP, base cost 1 Spike)
It is now safe to breathe in there. If you don't have the spikes for it, you
can find a Breather mask in the medical bay supply room in the "right" part
of this map. If you [Destroy] the console, the Dormitories will still be
poisoned.
Head up and into the Dormitories. Go right first, and take out the droid.
Go up and into the Dorms. Search the Broken Log Terminal with [Repair] to
salvage some components. Then start at the first room to the left, and work
your way around the Dorm, opening locked lockers, and searching corpses in
each one. In the second room, search the refresher for the Mine Foreman
Log. You'll find the Dock Officer's log on a corpse near the fourth room.
The fifth door (damaged) can only be opened with a Mine. Once you have all
the shinies, back out and over to the next dorm.
Take out the second MkII droid, and into the other Dorm. This log terminal
does work, but ignore it for now. Go around the rooms again gathering all
the items from the footlockers and corpses. Once that is done, return to the
log terminal. The last datapad is on the corpse right near the Log Terminal.
Use the Log Terminal and insert the three datapads. Watch the Administrator's
holovids, then the Check the transmission option will appear. If you have a
high INT, your character will decode this for you, otherwise:
... [3] so, a . is equal to 1
-X.. [17] then a - is equal to 10
-... [13] and an X is equal to 5
X [?]
X.. [?]
The missing digits are 5 and 7, for a code of 3, 17, 13, 5, 7. This is the
code needed to open the turbolift off this level. You can watch the other
holovid logs if you want, but you don't get anything out of it.
Getting Out of the Dormitory Level
Back out of the Dormitories, and now continue along the horseshoe shaped
room. This next room has more Cold turrets, and more droids that shoot you
with cold rays. Fun. A dead-end to the right has a damaged plasteel cylinder,
mine it to get the goodies. Then straight ahead into another droid filled
room. There are a couple of locked lockers in here. Get the swag, leave and
go into the "right" room (as seen on the map).
Take out the three droids in here, then search the corpse in the center (he
has an interesting datapad), and the two scattered survival kits around the
room. There is another corpse to search on the right side. Then hit the room
to the top for four more scattered survival kits and one Storage Canister
(with the Breath Mask). Survival kits have chemicals, which you can use at
the nearby lab station.
Head back to the eastern (or right) dormitory, and go to the very upper
right room. You can now spot the "hidden compartment" at the lower bunk.
Search it for a real Blaster Pistol, some grenades and a medpac.
Leave, and go through the lower door. Well, there's Coorta! Guess, his evil
scheme to sell you to the Exchange won't pan out. Search him and his two
cronies. He has a datapad on him that you can plug into the Log Terminal
back in the Dorm, but you don't get anything for it. Use the Terminal here.
With a high INT, you will be able to automatically enter in the code,
otherwise you have to do it manually. Either way it won't work. Well, that's
odd. As always, there's the [Destroy] option if you want, but you get no
XP for it. Despite the option for it, you can't slice the door. At this point
you can watch the log to see what happened to Coorta, thus showing you to
enter the code in reverse. If you have a high INT, your character will do
this for you, otherwise:
7, 5, 13, 17, 3
Opening the door this way is worth 250 XP. Enter the turbolift and head out.
The Administration Level Again
Walk forward, the door will open like MAGIC, and Kreia will join your party.
The option "then let's go" appears in most branches of this tree. There's the
option for a Dark Side point in her dialogue, but no Light Side. Call her a
scow if you get the opportunity. Sure glad influence hasn't started yet.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K: I have felt a disturbance... our enemy is here... .
. - Enemy? > K2 .
. - "We?" There is no "we" here. > K3 .
. - Then let's go. > K1 .
. K1: We need to make our way to...escape on the ship... > JOINS, END .
. K2: The one that fired upon the Ebon Hawk as we attempted to rescue... .
. - So what? If he's willing to bleed a little, that's more entertainment .
. for me. > K5 .
. - Wait -- who is this enemy? > K6 .
. - If he didn't bring an army with him, then he's the one in trouble.> K5.
. K3: We are together in this matter, you and I... .
. - DSP - I'm not letting some old scow hold me up -- I travel alone. > K4.
. K4: I realize that you have traveled alone...both are trapped here. .
. - As soon as we're off this rock, I'm going to find a nice little .
. asteroid to drop you off on for the rest of your short life. > K1 .
. K5: You know much of battle, enough to know that this is a battle... .
. - We'll see. Where should we go? > K1 .
. - Then you stay here and rot -- I'll take care of this "enemy." > K3 .
. K6: The story is a long one, and time is short. Come -- we must go... .
. - > K responses, but remove the Enemy line .
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Kreia -- feats listed here are in addition to normal class bonus feats
Jedi Consular -- Level 3
Stats Skills Powers
-------------------------------------------------------------------
STR 10 0 Vitality 36 Stealth 5 Burst of Speed
DEX 16 +3 Force 49 Awareness 6 Energy Resistance
CON 16 +3 Defense 16 Persuade 5* Force Camouflage
INT 14 +2 Fortitude 6 Treat Injury 6 Fear
WIS 16 +3 Reflex 5 Force Push
CHA 12 +1 Will 6
Feats: Dueling, Class Skill (Stealth), Finesse (Melee Weapons), Mentor**,
Force Chain***
* Kreia has Persuade, but it can't be raised
** Mentor increases experience gained while she is in party
*** Force Chain shares force powers with the Exile
Kreia should have enough XP to level up immediately. Decide immediately how
you want to use Kreia. I typically use her to "buff up" the party, rather
than offensive force powers. So, in my case, I need her to have more Vitality
so CON is more important. However, if you want to use offensive force powers,
then you should increase her WIS. I give her "buff up" powers as well, such
as Force Aura or Force Valor. Check her equipment as well. She works well
with any weapon. Then I would change her AI (use the D-Pad left once) over
to "Jedi Support" and select that. Now she'll buff up the party when battle
starts until she runs out of Force Points, then she attacks.
Now with Kreia in tow, go straight ahead. You'll see a cutscene showing
some Sith assassins following you. Yay! Bad guys equals XP! Keep going until
you meet up with Atton. Talk to him how you want, it doesn't matter. Then
you attempt to flee, when HK shows up and stops you. Talk to him and get him
to admit to mimicking the voice of the maintenance officer for 500 XP (if you
don't do this, you get 100 XP). You can listen to the rest, or... Fight!
Atton --
Scoundrel -- Level 3
Stats Skills Powers
-------------------------------------------------------------------
STR 12 +1 Vitality 24 Computer Use 3## none
DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Demolitions 4
CON 14 +2 Defense 19 Stealth 4
INT 10 0 Fortitude 5* Awareness 5
WIS 10 0 Reflex 8* Security 5
CHA 12 +1 Will 3*
Feats: Sneak Attack I & II, Scoundrel's Luck**, Survival***, Spirit#
Items: Atton's Ribbed Jacket > +4 DEF, +2 Saves
* Saves listed here inclued Atton's bonus from his armor (+2)
** Defensive bonus, +2 at level 1, an extra +2 at levels divisible by 6
*** Increases Atton's saves as he loses Vitality
# When knocked out of combat, there is chance that Atton will get back
up
## Cross Class skill
Level up Atton as well. Go with DEX all the way, and give him the skills
that the Exile doesn't do so well. If you duplicate his skills, focus on
the skills where his stat is higher than yours, which is probably stealth.
Remember, even if you never sneak anywhere, stealth is used in fabricating
items. I'd also start him on the Two Weapon Fighting path. Useful now and
later as well. Atton does well with either Aggressive AI or Ranged AI.
SPOILER Level Up Strategy: Atton can become a Jedi later, so if you want to
not waste your feats, you can focus on feats that are always useful, such
as skill feats, toughness, etc. Also, just because he can become a Jedi
later doesn't mean that you need him to use a lightsaber. The high-end
upgraded guns are pretty powerful in this game.
Make sure that everyone has an energy shield, and use that early. The fight
with HK is fairly simple. He brings up 4 floating mines, take these out at
range, hitting one of the two in the center might take out all of them in
the resulting explosion. Follow that up with a full assault on HK. When HK
gets low on Vitality, he goes into self-destruct mode. Pull back so you don't
all die when he explodes. If you want to hit him from a distance, see who he
will shoot at, and have him or her use an energy shield. Also, HK will heal
if you don't hurt him very swiftly. He dies, you win. Be sure to search him
for the...
HK Vocabulator!
And some other items. Well, that's it for Peragus. We're going to go up the
"left" (as seen from the map) rampway and onto the Harbinger.
Harbinger
N - Navicomputer, Bridge
Enter___ __ d - door
| d + d ___ + - container(s)
_____| |___|__ |_| +| E - Escape Pod (unusable)
_-- d | d |
|N +|----------- ------
-__ d d | ____d + Exit
-------|-d--_______ ---____
d + d + d E +|
----___ ----_____|
Immediately on board the Harbinger, you get into a conversation with Atton
and Kreia. This is the first conversation with Influence implications. In a
Light Side game I find it harder to get influence with Kreia, so you should
say the line that respects her. This one is more obvious than most on what
gives you influence. Simply say whatever sounds positive towards the person
you want to influence.
Atton & Kreia...............................................................
. AK1: Something is wrong...worst Jedi I've ever met! .
. - Maybe you'd like it back in your cell? > Extra Atton Line > AK2 .
. - It's not too late to dump you back in the security room. > AK2 .
. - Atton's right -- we need to get off this ship. > AK2 .
. - Calm down -- we need a plan, not accusations. > AK2 .
. - There's nowhere else to go -- the facility is sealed off. > AK2 .
. AK2: If the assassin machine was correct, then we cannot reach... .
. - I saw this vessel dock -- when it did, a fuel pipe entered the fuel .
. depot, behind the force field. > AK3 .
. - We can bypass the force field to the hangar by getting to the engine .
. room on this ship, then exiting through the fuel pipe. > AK3 .
. - As long as the Harbinger is docked, we can use it to reach the hangar .
. where the Ebon Hawk is. > AK3 .
. AK3: Look, I don't mean...the shortest flight out of Peragus ever recorded.
. - Then how did this ship dock here? > AK4 .
. - Why don't we steal this ship? > AK3a .
. - We survived Peragus -- we can take control of this ship. > AK3a .
. - Well, if you've got an idea instead of another complaint, let's hear .
. it. > AK3b .
. Ak3a: Oh, you mean with the huge crew we brought... .
. - Wait, how did the Harbinger get the orbital drift charts it would .
. need to dock here? > AK4 .
. - I don't want to argue, we need a solution. > AK3c .
. - Oh yeah? Let's hear your plan. > AK3b .
. - Do you want to die? If so, keep talking, smart mouth. > AK3b .
. AK3b: The two of you, be silent! .
. - He started it! > AK3c .
. - I'd watch that imperious tone of yours -- I'm losing patience with .
. both of you. > AK3c .
. - Wait, how did the Harbinger get the orbital drift charts it would .
. need to dock here? > AK4 .
. AK3c: We need a course of action, not division in our ranks... .
. - Wait -- how did this ship dock here? > AK4 .
. - Well, this ship's not going anywhere, unless it's got the drift .
. charts. > AK4 .
. AK4: Well, of course, they have the asteroid drift charts in their... .
. - So let's get their codes, then. Then we can worry about reaching .
. the Ebon Hawk. > AK5 .
. - Let's focus on the problem we can solve -- getting the codes. .
. Otherwise, getting to the hangar means nothing. > AK5 .
. - I think we can get there -- anybody see any problems with getting .
. to the navicomputer? > AK5 .
. AK5: Well, we'd have to get to the bridge... .
. - +INF,Kreia+ Forgive me, Kreia, I was distracted for a moment. I'll be .
. more mindful of the present. > END .
. - -INF,Kreia- Watch that tone, old woman -- I will not be lectured by .
. you. > END .
. - +INF,Atton+ Atton's plan was a good one -- let's head to the bridge .
. and get the drift charts. > END .
. - -INF,Atton- I'm still debating about whether we should just leave .
. Atton here or not. > END .
. - -INF,Atton- Feel free to stay behind, Atton -- we could use someone .
. to soak up some blaster shots from any more assassin droids. > END .
...........................................................................
Now that we're off the Peragus station, our enemies will mostly be human
opponents. So, if you were using an Ion type weapon, might want to switch.
Also, these guys use Stealth to close in on you and hit at melee range, so
you probably want everyone using a melee weapon... if you have enough.
Go forward, then right, and through the door. This is the bridge, go all the
way forward and use the Navicomputer:
[Repair] Reroute the navicomputer (base cost 1 parts)
[Computer] Slice the navicomputer (base cose 1 spikes)
Do one. If you have no parts/spikes, you'll have to check the plasteel
container at the back of the bridge first. Not that it matters here, but
remember that you can have ANY character use the Navicomputer, and for every
4 points of skill (total skill, not just how many points you put in at level
up) the number of parts/spikes is reduced by 1. Download the Drift Charts for
250 XP. Also, watch the first log for 100 XP. Go to the next door, to the
lower right and open the plasteel container there for parts, spikes and a
random item. Go through this door to the next door and through.
The door straight ahead cannot be opened, so, open the door to the right.
Around here you should be attacked by 4 Sith Assassins. You should notice the
Xbox slowing down, when that happens, use the trigger to find the bad guy,
once they turn red, attack them. They aren't too difficult. Through the door.
Follow this hall to a room. Get the swag in the plasteel container and the
footlocker (locked, but now you have Atton and he has security if you need
help). Open the next door and go through.
One Plasteel container and... some more Sith Assassins. Next door, next room,
more Sith Assassins and one Plasteel container. Although there is an escape
pod, it'd not exactly what we're looking for right now. We're not above
Taris, we're in an asteroid field.
Backtrack to where we started, and open the door just to the side of where
we came in. (the other door you can see in the hallway is unopenable) It is a
Low Security door.
Immediately to the left is a plasteel container with loot. Ahead and to the
right is a locked footlocker with more loot. Forward, unlock the next door
and go through. This hallway curves right. When you hit the intersection
you'll fight more Sith Assassins. Turn towards the stern of the ship (the
back end), and go forward and through the door.
There's a plasteel container in the back of this room, near the top of the
map. And in the center, is the Briefing Room Console. Use it and watch the
Holovids fly. You get 100 XP for watching the fourth log, Priority Override.
Note: Depending on how you answered Atton when you busted him out of his
cell you will see either Carth Onasi (Revan=Light Side) or Admiral
Cede (Revan-Dark Side). If you didn't play KoTOR1, then you don't
know this, but at the end of that game if you play as the Dark Side,
you kill Carth. Hence he couldn't show up here.
Go back to the intersection, and go down, towards the port of the ship.
This hallway curves around to another doorway, go through. Another room with
a Plasteel container and a Footlocker. And Sith Assassins. Kill the Sith,
get the loot, go through the next door to the Harbinger Crew Quarters. (this
door won't open until you have the codes from the Navicomputer)
Harbinger Crew Quarters
______ C - Command Deck (entrance)
/ __|_ d - door
/ / D - Medical Droid
| | |d| YR - Your Room
|d| --- | |-- X - Storeroom
| || || d r| S - High Security Door
---- ---- | d M || |-- r - Droid room
| | | | | || ||d| l - Lab station
----d--- --S-----d|| || |--
C d d || D || d Exit
----d------d---|-d|| || |--
| | | YR | | ||_dld |___ ---
---- ---- _| |/ d X |
______/----- ---
Charge ahead, and search the rooms to the sides. Each room has exactly ONE
container, either a footlocker or a plasteel container. When you reach the
second set of doors, you find your room. In your room you find "NAME's"
Armband (+1 CON), some loot and a datapad that tells you to report to the
medbay for a checkup. Aye, aye.
The room across the hall from yours may be too difficult a lock for Atton
to break, even using a Security Tunneler. You may have to come back here
later. My 16 INT Jedi Sentinel who kept up the Security skill had no such
problems. (And my 8 INT Jedi Guardian didn't even bother trying)
Ahead and through the next couple sets of doors. Once in the next room you'll
be attacked by Sith. Search the corpse. From the doorway in, turn right, and
walk down the hallway to the end. Search that corpse, then get attacked by
more Sith Assassins. This dead ends, so back up to the last room, then up
through the next doorway.
Skip the medical bay for now and continue going up. Follow this to its dead
end, search the corpse and get attacked by Sith again. Now go to the medical
bay and enter.
First thing's first, use the Medical Console, and [Insert Datapad] that you
got from your room. This shows that you were drugged while on the Harbinger.
But we knew that. You can also identify your kolto tank from here, which
you can also use. (100 XP) You can also watch the logs to learn about what
happened here, and watch the camera recording of the reawakening of Darth
Sion. Finally with [Treat Injury] you can get some chemicals. If you don't
have Treat Injury, Kreia should. There are 5 Plasteel containers in this
room, two on the console side, three on the lab station side, located between
kolto tanks. Search for loot!
Next, time to repair that medical robot in the lower half of the room, this
takes 3 parts and gives you 90 XP. Now as you go around this level, this
droid will follow you and heal you if you get hurt badly.
If you've kept up on Treat Injury, or had Kreia keep up on it, use the Lab
Station and look into making yourself some implants. They're surprisingly
affordable. A nice Strength D-Package could really hit the spot right here,
and stacks well with the "NAME" Armband you just got.
Go out the bottom and search the republic corpse here. Follow this hallway
to the next door on the right. More Sith shall attack here. Careful, they
will target your medical droid if it gets close to them. Enter the little
storeroom here, search the three locked containers and grab the shinies.
Exit, and go up the hallway.
Skip the next door on the right, it leads out, and go through the next door
straight ahead. One Sith attack later, and you can open the door on the
right side to find the droid room. You can look at the protocol droid to see
that SOMEONE tampered with it. That HK, was there anything he wouldn't do?
Search the Corpse here for some loot, and a datapad exclaiming the mysteries
of droids.
The next door up dead ends with no lootables, so head down, and into the
Turbolift.
Engine Deck, Harbinger
Before you can do anything else, Atton says that he has a bad feeling about
this. How you respond to this affects your INFLUENCE with him. Follow "What's
wrong" with "We'll be careful" for good Influence.
Atton.......................................................................
. A1: I have a bad feeling about this. .
. - Would you stop *saying* that? > A3 .
. - What's wrong? > A3 (slightly different dialogue) .
. - -INF- Your "bad feeling" is going to be replaced by blinding pain if .
. you don't be quiet. > A2 .
. - Save your feelings for when we're out of here. > A2 .
. - -INF- Just shut up and keep moving. > A2 .
. A2: All right, but don't say I didn't...wrong about these things. > END .
. A3: I can't help it -- don't you feel it? Something's gonna get... .
. - How do you know that? > A4 .
. - +INF+ We'll have to be careful, then. But we have to keep moving.> A2 .
. - Save your feelings for when we're out of here. > A2 .
. - -INF- Just shut up and keep moving. > A2 .
. A4: You don't survive on the Rim as long as I have without knowing... .
. - -INF- Cowardly intuition? > A2 .
. - +INF+ We'll have to be careful, then. But we have to keep moving.> A2 .
. - Save your feelings for when we're out of here. > A2 .
. - -INF- Just shut up and keep moving. > A2 .
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Both the side directions dead end, so head straight on. When you get near
the intersection, everyone turns around, and sees Darth Sion coming up
behind. Kreia pulls a Bastila and goes off to fight him alone, sealing the
door behind her. She tells you to beat it. You are now facing backwards, so
turn around, go forward and open the low security door. There are a couple
containers in here with goodies, and a console:
[Repair] Reroute the maintenance control system (1 part)
[Computer] Slice the maintenance control system (1 spike)
Use whichever you have more of. Open the door with the console and log out.
(250 XP) If you don't have parts or spikes, you can find them in the next
room.
Leave that room. Go out, take a right turn and go up the hallway. Another
low security door here to deal with, and a room with a footlocker of
components and a workbench. Upgrade all your items with any new things you
got, and if you have the skill for it, check out what you can make and try
to create something good. Go back down to the intersection, then continue
down the hallway.
This hallway will curve around until you enter the engine room. Follow this
for a while until you find the Main Ion Engine Control on your left. Use it,
an Activate the procedures. Log out. (250 XP)
Onward. As you get through the next door, Atton talks to you again. A good
opportunity to get a LSP or DSP here. However, before you find out what you
gained/lost with Atton, you get a cutscene with Kreia and Sion.
Atton.......................................................................
. A1: Tell me you're joking. We are not going to cross back into the... .
. - It's the only way to get around the sealed door and into the hangar .
. where the Ebon Hawk is. > Cutscene .
. - LSP - Atton, you need to trust me. Come on. > Cutscene .
. - The past few hours have been crazy, in case you were sleeping. Now .
. keep moving. > Cutscene .
. - DSP - Then stay here and die. > A2 .
. A2: Ah, hell, better the death you know. I'm right behind you. > Cutscene .
. Cutscene: (Kreia does her thing) Atton: What happened to you? .
. - My hand... felt like it was being dipped in molten carbonite. > END .
. - Kreia... I think she was wounded... badly. > A3 .
. - I... don't know, but we need to keep moving. > END .
. - Nothing - let's keep moving. > END .
. A3: Huh? How do you know that? .
. - I just do. > one more meaningless option, then > END .
. - Call it an instinct reaction. > END .
. - I... think it was through the Force. > END .
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Ahead, left and out.
Peragus Fuel Depot
Well, hope you liked the Harbinger, you'll never go inside it again. Pressing
on. Hey, that's T3! When you get close, he talks to you. You can both gain
and lose Influence here, and for the first time, you can do both at once!
He joins up with you. (100 XP)
T3..........................................................................
. T3-1: Dee... reet. Dee... eeet? .
. - I know - we ran into the "protocol droid" earlier, he attacked us, .
. too. > T3-2 .
. - Can you travel, T3? > T3-5 .
. - Warm up your systems and let's go. > END .
. - -INF- We may still have a use for you. Follow me. > END .
. T3-2: Dee...dree...eet. .
. - How did you survive? > T3-3 .
. - +INF+ Don't blame yourself. If you hadn't gotten us out of the .
. administration level, we'd never have made it this far. > T3-5 .
. - > plus the bottom 3 options from T3-1 .
. T3-3: Dee, dreeee-dee-deet. .
. - He just dumped you into this fuel pipe? > T3-4 .
. - > the options from T3-2 .
. T3-4: Dee-deet. .
. - Sounds like he just wanted to keep you out of the way until he could .
. find a way off the station... with us. > T3-2, remove first option .
. - Good thing your memory core is well-shielded. > T3-2, remove 1st .
. - > the options from T3-2 .
. T3-5: Dee - dreet. .
. - Then let's go. > END .
. - Come on, then - we have to hurry. > END .
. - -INF- We may still have a use for you. Follow me. > END .
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There's a quick bit of influence we can get by immediately talking to T3
again. Ask about his damage, how much damage, lost a lot of programs, and
say to him that you're sure he'll be getting his skills back. Glad to have
you along, and you get +INF+. ("Pray you don't lose any more," and you get
-INF-) With skill in [Computer] or [Repair] you can offer to upgrade his
memory core or do some routine maintenance. No influence is gained/lost
doing these.
[Computer] upgrade memory core, INFLUENCE CHECK, T3 gains +1 INT, 250 XP
[Repair] routine maintenance, INFLUENCE CHECK, T3 gains +1 CON, 250 XP
Note: Although you can see more of these skill options, your INFLUENCE
with T3 won't be high enough to go any farther than that. For some
reason, many of the T3 influencing items are Light Sided in nature.
You can't get them yet. And if you're playing Dark Side and want to
get a prestige class, put off talking to T3 again until after you
get your class. Also, only the Exile can work on T3.
T3 -- Listed here because he actually JOINS you here.
Expert Droid -- Level 3
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 10 0 Vitality 30 Computer Use 6 none
DEX 15 +2 Force 0 Demolitions 2
CON 14 +2 Defense 17 Awareness 2
INT 16 +3 Fortitude 3 Repair 6
WIS 10 0 Reflex 5 Security 6
CHA 10 0 Will 1
Feats: Gearhead, Caution
Items: Whatever he had when you last saw him.
T3 will immediately level up. Set his DEX up to 16 to get the even number
there, or if you want to work on skills, start increasing INT. If
you upgraded T3 earlier, CON and INT will also be odd, and increasing them
will help out now. For feats, you probably don't need T3 to fight, so choose
Improved Gearhead, or perhaps Toughness to keep him from dying. He can't take
that many feats anyway. If you are increasing the INT, consider doing Class
Skill (Demolitions). T3 can then do it all. Equip him with any new droid
items you got.
Note: If you talk to T3 again, you can get him to upgrade items for you,
just like a Workbench. He can also make Spikes for you, but won't
if you already have enough.
Straight ahead is a Mine, and right next to that mine is a very important
bit of technology, the concealed stash:
Hangar 25 Control Conduit! Yay we can get the Ebon Hawk
Grab it, recover the mine, and open the door. Be ready for droids. Although
the droids will probably pull you over to the right, go back to the left
(on the map it will look like you're going up and right) to get the plasteel
container's goodies. Now go the other way, down-leftish and beat up any more
droids you see. The small doorway will be mined. You might set this off
while fighting the droids, if not, recover it. Go through.
Don't miss the Plasteel container right by this door. There is a ramp up
here, but ignore it and run along the side for now. This leads to a door with
a mine inside. Recover it. Go through. Just a couple of MkII droids and a
corpse to be searched here. Head back to the ramp and up.
Use the console, Emergency Field Station, to shut down the field to the exit
ramp. (110 XP) Log out.
Up the ramp and into the passage. You'll be in the middle of four droids,
they have you surrounded. This is where T3 was wandering around before. The
console he got fragged at is over to the left behind two of the MkII droids.
Here is where I finally started using Flurry (my Guardian had Improved
Flurry and Two weapon fighting for 3 attacks per shot), which could take out
a droid easily. Take out the droids, check for remains, then follow the
pathway right to the Hangar Bay.
Hangar Bay and Out
Droids have taken over this level, so it's a firefight all the way back to
the hangar controls. Check for remains and go to the Console. T3 says he can
override the door. Despite saying that, he's no better at it than anyone.
Access the emergency controls, then you should do both the [Repair] and the
[Computer] options, then try to open the door, then replace the part, then
the door opens. (50 XP for repair, 50 XP for computer, 60 XP for the door)
Down the ramp, turn right, and you have to fight through more droids. Run
all the way down this curved hallway to find a locked footlocker. Go back
up and turn right. There's more droids, but at this point, easy pickings.
The ramp downwards is mined. There is also a droid at the bottom. Melee
characters will want to run down once they see this droid, so you could take
it out long range with an Ion grenade, or target it with a blaster character.
Then recover the mines and go down. Check for remains, then around and down
the next ramp. This one is also Mined, so recover these as well.
Take out the last droid, open the next door and through. Go up to the
Decontamination Console.
[Repair] Reroute the main console system (base cost 4 parts) (105 XP)
[Computer] Slice the system (base cost 3 spikes) (105 XP)
[Destroy the console] (no XP, and you get poisoned)
Unless everyone is immune to poison, you want to either slice or repair the
console, rather than destroy it. (which does open the door) Now HERE is where
T3 will really do well. (Although my 16 INT Sentinal is almost as good at
this) For him, if you kept his skills up, the cost in parts or spikes is 1.
Use whichever you have more of. Then, access the cameras, decontamination
room, and try to turn it off (base cost 8 spikes). (220 XP) T3 at this point
should get it at 4 spikes. Finally open the door with the console and log
out.
Enter the formerly poisonous room, and follow it to a small room with a
couple of metal boxes. And, hey, there's our ship! Before we get on, go left
to find a locked footlocker and a cargo container. Around to the other side
of the ship to find another locked footlocker with some random swag for you.
Up to a broken droid next, then to a cargo container buried behind some
boxes. Follow the wall around to another broken droid with droid items.
That's it for items, on to the ship!
Escape from Peragus!
Now, Atton wants you to use the laser turret to take out the Sith Troopers.
However, there's no reward for getting all of them. In fact, you only get
XP from this when you kill them INSIDE the ship. So, let them board you.
Once they're all on board, you'll have to fight them. However, it gives you
time to use items to buff up. Have everyone fire up some shields, pop some
stims. Then rampage around the ship taking out these nasty Sith. They stand
grouped together making easy grenade targets. At this point they should be
about 175 (Level 7) to 150 XP (Level 8) each, and with 25 of them on the ship
you should get between 4375 to 3750 XP total. Totally worth it. Also, if you
want to search for remains, you have to do it before the last one dies.
Kreia reappears back on the ship, and you leave. Atton tells you that you're
dead if things keep up. Your options are basically...
Fire on the Asteroid - DSP
Keep our Distance, and "no, someone might be alive" - LSP
Keep our Distance, and keep evading - nothing
Either way, the asteroids get blown, and you barely escape with your lives.
Atton and Kreia will talk to you. For getting out of this you get 1000 XP.
During the conversation, you can say "I've heard enough" at any time, this
sends Kreia to the port room, and Atton asks you to look in on her. There are
a LOT of LSP and DSP options in here, so the chance to get closer to Dark/
Light Side Mastery is great. No influence can be gained/lost here.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: The Republic warship was the Harbinger. It was seized on its way... .
. - The Harbinger was on its way to Telos? > K2 .
. - Why are these Sith looking for me? > K7 .
. - How do we stop them? > K12 .
. - I've heard enough. None of this interests me > END > to Atton dialogue.
. K2: Yes... to aid in the recovery effort there... on Peragus. .
. - How did you know I was on board the Harbinger? > K3 .
. - Care to explain how you tracked me down? > K3 .
. - Looks like I didn't cover my tracks well. > K3 .
. K3: You were difficult to find...nearly destroying the Ebon Hawk. .
. - How come I don't remember any of this? > K4 .
. - That's an unusual set of coincidences. > K5 .
. - How did we get to Peragus? > K6 .
. K4: Whatever occured on board the Harbinger had rendered you... .
. - > K3 responses, remove top response .
. K5: True, but as one trained in the Force, you know that true... .
. - > K3 responses, remove middle response .
. K6: I do not know... (T3 chirps in) Be silent...! .
. - He says he repaired the ship and got us to Peragus. > Atton yells at .
. T3 > K3 + K1 responses .
. - What part of 'silence' didn't you hear? > K1 responses, remove top, .
. add in K3 responses remove last response .
. - DSP - Another beep outta you, and you're scrap. > Atton line .
. > K1 responses, but remove the top response and the END response .
. K7: Because you are the last of the Jedi. Once you are dead, then... .
. - I am not a jedi, not any longer. > different Kreia line > K8 .
. - But I was exiled from the Jedi Order. > different Kreia line > K8 .
. - DSP - The next time someone calls me a Jedi, they'll be lying in a .
. pool of their own blood. > K8 .
. K8: The Sith will dare to accuse you of such... .
. - But... last of the Jedi? That can't be true. > K9 .
. - What happened to the Jedi? > K9 .
. - The Jedi Order can't be gone. > K9 .
. K9: The Jedi Civil War destroyed the Jedi. By the war's end... .
. - What about the Jedi on Dantooine? And Coruscant? > K10 .
. - But those Jedi who survived - what happened to them? > K10 .
. K10: The Jedi Academy on Dantooine...and the civil war that followed. .
. - LSP - If any survivors still live, we need to warn them. > K11 .
. - DSP - Then the Jedi are dead, gone... and good riddance. > K11 .
. K11: Perhaps, but they are Jedi no longer... .
. - Before, you said the Harbinger was on its way to Telos? > K2 .
. - Then how do we stop the Sith? > K12 .
. K12: That is not an easy question to answer. This threat is greater... .
. - If we don't stop them, they're going to keep coming. > K13 .
. - DSP - They're eager to fight us - I say we fight back. > K13 .
. - So what do you think we should do? > K13 .
. K13: (Atton line first, then Kreia) We cannot hope to triumph against... .
. - What do you mean? > K14 .
. - But we have no other choice. > K14 .
. - Any enemy can be fought - and killed. > K14 .
. - I will not run from the Sith, or anyone. > K14 .
. K14: You fought in the Mandalorian Wars, and it cost you everything... .
. - The Mandalorian Wars were my choice. > K15 .
. - DSP - If these Sith threaten me, then they die. > K15 .
. - LSP - This is self-defense, not war. > K15 .
. - We must stop them. There's no other option. > K15 .
. - Is there someplace we could hide? Or run to? > (Atton line) > K17 .
. K15: You are not listening to me...nothing left to sacrifice. .
. - I have nothing to lose now - how bad could it be? > K16 .
. - I turned away from war once, I can do it again. > K16 .
. - If I do not try, then we have lost anyway. > K16 .
. - LSP - A Jedi's life is sacrifice - it is a small price to pay. > K16 .
. - LSP - If evil is not fought, then we sacrifice the galaxy. > K16 .
. - DSP - Only the Sith will pay the price - for crossing me. > K16 .
. K16: Pah, like so many Jedi, you hear, but you do not listen... .
. - K1 responses, remove third response .
. K17: For a time, yes. Telos may be such a place - all our paths... .
. - Perhaps with the right training, I can fight this threat. > K15 .
. - That'll give us time to get allies on our side. > K15 .
. - And we let them come to us, set a trap for them. > K15 .
............................................................................
She leaves, and before you can think, Atton talks to you. At any time say
"I'll go check on her then" to end the conversation.
Atton.......................................................................
. A1: Look, uh, not like I care or anything, but you might want to go... .
. - She seemed well enough for someone who had just lost her hand. > A2 .
. - I'm sure she can take care of herself. > A2 .
. - LSP - You're right, she may need help - can you handle things up here?.
. > A1a .
. - I'll go check on her then. > END .
. A1a: We're on autopilot until we hit Telos. Until then, a droid... .
. - What makes you say that? > A2 .
. - If it'll shut you up, then I'll go check on her. > END .
. A2: I think she was barely keeping it together - I'm surprised... .
. - What are you talking about? > A3 .
. - She didn't seem in pain to me. > A3 .
. - LSP - You're right, she may be in pain - I'll see if I can go help. .
. > END .
. A3: Are you blind? ... especially in front of you. .
. - That's odd. > A4 .
. - That's a poor assumption to be making. > A4 .
. - LSP - You're right, she may be in pain - I'll see if I can go help. .
. > END .
. - If it'll shut you up, then I'll go check on her. > END .
. A4: Is it? In case you hadn't noticed, she won't say...until Telos. .
. - When did you get so sensitive? > A5 .
. - LSP - You're right, she may be in pain - I'll see if I can go help. .
. > END .
. - I'll go see her, then - if only to pass the time. > END .
. - If it'll shut you up, then I'll go check on her. > END .
. A5: Oh, don't give me that. All it takes is being around people... .
. - > A4 responses, remove the first response .
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Now as Atton suggested, go to the Port Crew Quarters and talk to Kreia.
During the conversation you'll get the Force Chain ability. At least, the
game finally tells you about it, it's been working since Kreia joined you.
This dialogue has an unavoidable Light/Dark choice that is pretty obvious.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Have you come for more answers? There is little more left to give. .
. - When you lost your hand... I felt it, too. > K2 .
. - LSP - Your hand - is there anything I can do? > (different Kreia line).
. > K2 .
. - If you refer to your hand, the choice was yours. (different Kreia line)
. > K2 .
. K2: That does not surprise me, any more than you hearing... .
. - -INF- LSP - If I could, I would have protected you. > K2a .
. - -INF- LSP - I'm sorry for your loss. > K2a .
. - DSP - Then consider the pain a lesson. > K2b .
. - If I felt the loss of your hand, what would have happened if you had .
. died? > K3 .
. K2a: Save your pity. I am here to save you, not the other way around. .
. - Looks to me like you're the one who needs help. > K2b .
. - Seems to me you need to learn to listen. > K2b .
. - If we travel together, then we need to work together. > K2b .
. - If I felt the loss of your hand, what would have happened if you had .
. died? > K3 .
. K2b: I do not need your condescension, nor your lectures. If anyone... .
. - The pain I felt when you lost your hand, what if it had been more .
. intense? > K3 .
. - Then teach me to shut out your pain. Next time, it could be worse. .
. > K3 .
. - And what if you had died? > K3 .
. K3: I do not know. I fear that... the consequences would have been... .
. - More extreme? I felt like my hand was dipped in molten carbonite. .
. > K3a .
. - Like what consequences? Death? > K4 .
. - Would it have been lethal? > K4 .
. K3a: Then the sensation you would feel upon my death might be less... .
. - Quicker? Would it have killed me? > K4 .
. - Would it have been lethal? > K4 .
. - Are you saying my life is tied to yours? > K4 .
. K4: Possibly, yes, and I fear it works both ways. I would not... .
. - LSP - What can we do? I don't want my actions to place you at risk. .
. > K5 .
. - LSP - Then we'll work together and try to be careful until we can fix .
. this. > K5 .
. - DSP - This link is a threat to me, and an inconvenience. We need to .
. sever it, now. > K5 .
. - DSP - But at your age you could die at any moment, especially .
. considering the way you act. > (different Kreia line) > K5 .
. - DSP - I will not allow my life to be tied to some half-dead delusional.
. old woman. > (different Kreia line) > K5 .
. K5: When battle is upon us, I suspect our minds are prepared enough... .
. - How could this bond have happened? > K6 .
. - Does our connection have any advantages? > K6 .
. - I have never heard of a link like this before, in holocrons, or in .
. the Jedi histories. > K6 .
. K6: I confess its nature eludes me as well...it has its drawbacks. .
. - So what do we do now? > K7 .
. - I need to know more about the Sith hunting us. > K11 .
. - When we were on Peragus, I could feel the Force again. > K15 .
. - Can you tell me what has happened since the Mandalorian Wars? > K25 .
. - I think I've heard enough. > K-END .
. K7: I do not know... if you fall all the galaxy will echo it. .
. - But there must be someplace we can go. > K8 .
. - Is there any place where we can retreat to? > K8 .
. - We can't keep running until they catch us. > K8 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K8: It does not matter where we go...bound for Telos, and that is enough. .
. - Where are we bound again? > K9 .
. - Enough for what? > K9 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K9: The planet Telos...echoes of their passing. We shall see. .
. - And if we find no trace of Jedi teachings on Telos to help us? > K10 .
. - That plan seems weak. > K10 .
. - We don't have the time to scour an entire planet for Jedi relics. .
. > K10 .
. K10: Then I am left with nothing more than we had already... .
. - There were more questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. K11: These Sith... they seek the death of all Jedi. As have all the... .
. - First split? > K12 .
. - There was another Jedi Civil War? > K12 .
. - The Sith were once Jedi? > K12 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K12: Yes... the Jedi Civil War is not the first one...as Malak did. .
. - So these Sith continue the crusade? > K13 .
. - But these Sith seem... different. > K13 .
. - Are they following Malak's path? > K13 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K13: In a manner of speaking... the dark side shall reign, unchecked. .
. - I've never seen Sith... assassins like those on the Harbinger. > K14 .
. - If those Sith assassins are the best the Sith have to offer, we have .
. little to fear. > K14 .
. - The Sith on Peragus knew some Force techniques, but they were .
. exteremely weak. > K14 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K14: I believe them to be the result of... the more will come. .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - This is a lot to take in at once. I need time to reflect on this. .
. > K-END .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K15: Indeed? And was it the same as before? .
. - No... it felt... different. Faint. > K16 .
. - It was like a whisper, at the edge of hearing. > K16 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K16: If my suspicions are correct, perhaps the damage the Jedi Council... .
. - Wait... the Jedi did this to me? > K17 .
. - If they were responsible, they had no right! > K17 .
. - I don't believe the Jedi would do such a thing. > K17 .
. K17: What did you believe? That you suddenly lost your connection... .
. - It's not possible to cut one off from the Force. It's like deafening .
. someone... or blinding them. > K18 .
. - But to cut one off from the Force... it's like losing all your .
. senses at once. > K18 .
. K18: Indeed it is. It is much like...and exiled them as they did you. .
. - LSP - I don't believe the Jedi would inflict such a punishment on .
. someone. It seems... too cruel. > K23 .
. - Then there must be a way to reverse what they did. > K19 .
. - DSP - If the Jedi were not already gone and dead, I would end their .
. lives for doing this to me. > K19 .
. - There were other questions I wished to ask you. > K6 questions .
. - I think I've heard enough > K-END .
. K19: It is possible that such a thing can be undone... they yet live. .
. - But you said it's possible. How? > K20 .
. - Slim is better than none. > K20 .
. - But the Force... I can feel it again, if only slightly. > K20 .
. K20: Our link... may have other consequences... damage they have done. .
. - But there are no more Jedi. > K21 .
. - I will honor whatever training you wish to give me. > K21 .
. - You? Train me? You can barely stand. > K21 .
. - I am my own Master, I have no need of teachers. > K21 .
. K21: Then I am your only hope, as you are mine... as it once did. .
. - +INF+ LSP - I would welcome whatever aid you offer. > K22 .
. - I accept you as a teacher... for now. > K22 .
. - +INF+ DSP - If your training brings me power, then I will listen. .
. - -INF- DSP - I have no use for mentors... but a servant, yes. > K22 .
. - -INF- DPS - A long-winded scow in my thoughts is enough. Leave me be. .
. > K14 responses .
. K22: Then our training shall begin. Whenever I travel with you, I ... .
. - > K14 responses .
. K23: If not the Jedi then what did you think was the cause of such a loss?.
. - In defying the Jedi Order to follow Revan to war, I thought I had .
. somehow lost my connection to the Force. > K24 .
. - I thought I had lost it by my actions, by forgetting my training and .
. the teaching of the Jedi. > K24 .
. - I had thought the Mandalorian Wars the cause... I did much that I am .
. not proud of. > K24 .
. - I believed that serving Revan had... corrupted me. > K24 .
. - I thought that the war had driven me to the dark side, and severed .
. me from my powers. > K24 .
. K24: War leaves many scars...unless another factor was involved. .
. - Can my connection to the force be healed? > K19 .
. - I would do anything to restore my connection to the Force. > K19 .
. - Can anything be done? There must be a way. > K19 .
. K25: Much has happened in the galaxy in your absence, and since... .
. - Tell me about the Mandalorian Wars. > K26 .
. - What happened after the war? > K31 .
. - I want to know about Revan and Malak. > K31 .
. K26: It is a tale you already know well...begged the Jedi council for aid..
. - But the Jedi Council didn't help... only a few of the Jedi Knights .
. did. > K27 .
. - The Jedi Council agreed but did not move fast enough. So we had to. .
. > K27 .
. - But only some Jedi Knights answered the call... like I did. > K27 .
. K27: Indeed. The Jedi Council counseled caution and patience to... .
. - And Revan and Malak refused to wait. > K28 .
. - I know this part. What happened after the war? > K31 .
. - I want to know about Revan and Malak. .
. K28: Two Jedi Knights, Revan and Malak... into the Unknown Regions. .
. - Until we destroyed them... at Malachor V. > K29 .
. - The Mandalorians fought savagely, to the end. > K29 .
. - Even in that final battle, we almost lost the war. > K29 .
. - > other responses from K27 .
. K29: Yes, I have heard tales of Malachor V ... .
. - Many Jedi died at Malachor V... and the conflict split the .
. Jedi Order. > K30 .
. - Malachor V is in the past - let it stay there, forgotten. > K30 .
. - I asked you what you know, not what I know. > K31 .
. - > other responses from K27 .
. K30: ... in the Mandalorian crusade. But you know this. .
. - I felt them fall - the war had consumed them. > K31 .
. - But some battles must be fought. It was not Revan's failing. > K31 .
. - And if I could, I would have followed them. > K31 .
. - > other responses from K27 .
. K31: Consumed? No... and turned them into a weapon, against the Republic. .
. - And that was the Jedi Civil War. > K32 .
. - What happened next? > K32 .
. - Didn't the Jedi Order try to stop them? > K32 .
. K32: Revan and Malak and all the Jedi that served them...bleed still. .
. - How were Malak and the Sith defeated? > K33 .
. - What happened to Malak? > K33 .
. - The Republic is weak. They couldn't have beaten Malak. > K33 .
. K33: As all Sith do, without a strong enemy, the Sith turned on each... .
. - But what happened to Revan? > K34 .
. - Does Revan still live? > K34 .
. - Did the Jedi recapture Revan? > K34 .
. K34: None know, certainly not I... where Revan wanders now, I do not know..
. - So Revan saved the Republic? > K35 .
. - You're saying Revan abandoned the war? > K35 .
. - Revan turned against Malak - for the sake of the Republic? > K35 .
. K35: It would seem that way ...the Republic has the strength to survive. .
. - LSP - Then we must do what we can until it has a chance to recover .
. from the war. > K36 .
. - DSP - If the Republic is weak, it didn't deserve to win. > K36 .
. - DSP - Malak and Revan should have crushed the Republic. > K36 .
. K36: Perhaps, it is sometimes difficult...Republic was never truly tested..
. - So? What does it matter? > K37 .
. - The Republic won... that is the only truth. > K37 .
. - Get to the point - if there is one. > K37 .
. K37: A culture's teachings, and most importantly...Republic can survive. .
. - LSP - Can anything be done to help the Republic? > K38 .
. - DSP - The Republic has avoided its fate too long - let them burn. .
. > K38 .
. - Perhaps it is better the Republic stands on its own. > K38 .
. K38: We shall see... It is aimed at you. .
. - This threat is directed against me? > K39 .
. - What do you mean? > K39 .
. - Because I'm the last Jedi? > K39 .
. K39: The Republic was never what was important... > normal questions .
. K-END: I would see to that fool in the cockpit, and remind him... .
. - LSP - The fool has a name. I'd like you to start using it. > END .
. - He's not a fool, but he does feel odd to me. > END .
. - Atton isn't so bad, just... well, maybe he is. > END .
. - I'll crack his skull into the bulkhead if he tries. > END .
. - Will do. I'll go see him now. > END .
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That monster of a dialogue is over, head on back to Atton and talk to him.
Only a couple things of note in this dialogue, so it's not worth mapping.
If you say "Look, ease off the insults. She was wounded helping us escape,
remember?" You get a Light Side Point (LSP). Atton will also ask about your
old Lightsaber. You'll see this lightsaber come up later, but this dialogue
doesn't affect your new lightsaber that you build later. Atton points you
to the Galaxy Map near the cockpit, which you select when you want to go
somewhere.
Glitch: This one's fun. Save it in the cockpit. Reload. Talk to Atton and
watch how he sits in the chair, it's just not natural.
You can also talk to T3 and get some more options (unless you didn't talk to
him again back in Peragus, in which case they're all new options):
[Intelligence] How did you get here T3?
> [Computer] You're deliberately avoiding answering - why?
> [Computer] Check your core
[Computer] memory core, INFLUENCE CHECK
[Repair] more routine maintenace, INFLUENCE CHECK
And if you missed them, the old options from Peragus:
[Computer] upgrade memory core, INFLUENCE CHECK, T3 gains +1 INT, 250 XP
[Repair] routine maintenance, INFLUENCE CHECK, T3 gains +1 CON, 250 XP
T3 Note: Gaining T3's influence is easy to figure. When working on him,
say you'll be careful and you gain. Say you will rip him apart,
and you (may) lose. However, gaining influence with him also gives
you Light Side Points (LSP). If you are playing Dark Side, you
may want to put off the T3 upgrades until after level 15 and
you get your prestige class. That way you hit Dark Side Mastery
quicker and won't have to wait.
Bao-Dur will have an option later to upgrade T3, and this is
separate from your upgrades to him.
Finally, you can open the security door in the main hold to find HK-47.
For now all you can do is insert the HK Vocabulator we got off HK-50 back
at Peragus. More parts will come later.
Use the Galaxy Map, and travel to Telos.
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3. Telos - Citadel Station :TLOSC:
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Light/Dark Side Note: If you've been going full out for Light or Dark, very
soon you will hit 1/4 to either. When that happens you
get a movie and cutscene of Visas and Nihilous. This
will place Visas on the Ebon Hawk when you get it
later. She won't appear the first time you get in.
A Warm Greeting
Well, were you really expecting one? Regardless of what you want, say or do
here, the Telos Security Force (TSF) will confiscate your ship and T3, then
throw you into cells. You can be a complete jerk to Lt. Grenn and he doesn't
even take it personally. He's quite a professional. I really thought you
could get DSPs here, but you can't. While jailed, you see a Mysterious Woman
in White sneak up to your ship.
Things are all well and good until an assassin approaches and tries to kill
you. Say what you want, it all leads to combat. (1000 XP) Good thing Jedi
are good at fighting without weapons. And if you have Shock, this should be
over really fast.
Grenn reappears, you discover the assassin was a fake "Batu Rem" and they
send you to your new, more luxurious cell... er... quarters. You and Kreia
will meditate twice, getting interrupted each time by the Comms. The first
to call are the Ithorians, the second is Czerka. Ithorians are peaceful,
hippy types who live in-tune with nature. Czerka is an evil soulless
corporation that wanted the Sith to win in the Jedi Civil War. Who you
side with is pretty obvious, Light Side with the Ithorians, Dark Side with
Czerka. Say what you want to them here, you can always change who you side
with later (at least, until you agree to work for one of them at their own
base later). Although you can skip listening to them, you may as well hear
out the side you plan on following.
After Czerka's call, Kreia and Atton have a conversation about the Force.
Following that, Grenn returns and says that you are off the hook... even if
you WERE responsible for blowing up Peragus. Sweet. We got away with
Planeticide! He tells you to come by the TSF offices in the Entertainment
module to retrieve your things. Atton thinks you should get out of Telos
while you still can. Say what you want, and you're free! Sort of. You can
leave your room, anyway.
Residential 082 East
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A2
A1 A3
/ W - To 082 West
__ __ S - Shuttle to 081
| "A" block | ___ Entertainment
| | | | |_____ _____| | | C - Czerka
------- E --------------- S ------- ---------|| B1 E - Exchange
| W | _______ _____ ______ ______ - "B" B2 I - Information
| I - B3 Console
------------------ C -------------- ---------|| / (Fast Transit)
| | | "C" block | |___|
|__ __|
/
C3 C1
C2
Talk to Kreia. If you are strongly Light or Dark, she will want to comment
on that. The only way to gain +INF+ is to "View my companions as disposable"
but this also gives you a DSP. If you don't agree with her in this, you get
a LSP and lose -INF-. This is the case whether you are Light or Dark (but
what she says is different). This may happen now, or you can try again later.
After that, ask her some questions... Your main goal is to get to her
backstory, which requires either INT, WIS or positive INFLUENCE. If you
gained influence with her in the last dialogue, and haven't lost any anywhere
else you will have enough. You can also ask about the Force, but those
options don't go anywhere yet. Also, if your INT, WIS and INFLUENCE aren't
high enough, you can do this later when they are.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Ask, and I will answer. .
. - Kreia, what are you - are you a Jedi, a Sith? > K2 .
. - Do you know anything about the Sith who pursue us? > INFLUENCE CHECK .
. > SUCCESS, K4 > FAILURE, K5 .
. K2: Does it matter? Of course it does, such titles allow you to ... .
. - [Intelligence - 16 REQ] Then what were you? > K-STORY .
. - [Wisdom - 16 REQ] To ally myself with someone without knowing their .
. allegiance is unwise. > K-STORY .
. - I want some answers, not more cryptic words. > INFLUENCE CHECK > .
. > SUCCESS, K-STORY > FAILURE, K3 .
. - Enough of these lies. Tell me what you are. .
. K3: [Influence: Failure] Or what? Shall you kill me? Hurt me? ... .
. - We will speak more of this, I promise you. > back to questions .
. K-STORY: What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code ... .
. - > Cutscene, 1000 XP > small dialogue, then back to questions .
. K4: [Influence: Success] I know of them, yes... and how much like beasts...
. - The one who bathes in pain - Sion. > line about Sion and back to here .
. - Who is the betrayer? > line about trust, then back to here .
. - And the one consumed by hunger? > line about staying away from him, .
. > then back to here .
. K5: [Influence: Failure] Nothing more than we already know ... .
. - > Back to questions .
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Atton has nothing to say here, unless you want to play Pazaak, so onward.
There are a few things we can do in this area, however, you could just go
straight to the Shuttle to Entertainment Module 081 to the TSF offices to
get your things. We'll get there eventually. None of the "C" apartments are
noteworthy right now, so leave this apartment. Take a right turn, and go to
the next block of apartments, the mysterious B complex.
You can't open B1, no matter how high your skill in Security, so don't
bother. B2 has a Duros, Opo Chano, who thinks that you are from the Exchange
to deal with him. You can ask him about it, but he's evasive. He sells droid
parts, but right now you don't have a droid. He also has a Workbench in his
room, but you'll have no items, so that doesn't help. Keep him in mind. You
can't open B3 yet either. Out and over to C complex on the right.
Apartment A1 has a Twi'lek named Harra, who gives you your first honest
sidequest.
SIDEQUEST: "High Stakes" - Ramana Enslaved by Harra
Harra has a gambling debt, of a sort. He lost big in Pazaak and wagered his
girlfriend. (How did he have the right to "sell" her anyway?) May as well
agree to help him out.
You need to find a Twi'lek named Doton Het in the Cantina out in the
Entertainment Module. You can threaten to kill him, but that doesn't work,
he has a tranceiver in Ramana that keeps her enslaved. You can [Persuade]
him to 1500 credits, or bet 1000 credits and play him at Pazaak. If you
do the Pazaak option, I would first go to the woman in the racing room,
Mebla Dule, and buy a few of the +/- cards first. If you win against her
three times in a row you also get the nifty Double card. Then play a
friendly game with Atton to get used to the game if you don't know much
about it. Finally save it and go back to Doton Het and play.
Win or pay him and she's yours. Now you get to decide what to do
with her, keep a slave, or send her back to Harra. Keeping her a slave is
the easiest solution... if a little dark (350 XP, DSP). If you take her
back to Harra, though, you can force her to get back together with him (or
you'll sell her to Nal Hutta, 350 XP, LSP & DSP) or let her do what she
wants with freedom (350 XP, LSP). You can also point out that she still
belongs to you, and keep her (300 XP, DSP), or even extort money out of him
for her freedom. He can't pay any amount you ask for, so don't bother.
(300 XP, DSP) The best option for Dark Siders is to play Pazaak, win her
(thus she's free), and keep her working in the cantina. Light Siders are
stuck with taking her back, then letting her go there.
Note: If you keep her as a slave, you can come back periodically and
she'll pay you her "earnings." If she's making that much just
dancing, then... um... Anyway, you can get quite a lot of money
out of her. First 800, 1200, 1500 and 1800 is as far as I have
ever gotten. If she has no money for you, you'll have to come back
later. Despite what she says, she never can pay off her debt to
you.
You can get the 900 credits immediately.
Also, if you do the next step below, you'll lose this source of
money forever, however, if you don't do it, you'll soon lose this
quest forever. 3500 Credits versus 2000 Credits and 250 XP (plus
lots more DSP). This next part MUST be done before doing the
Exchange part of the Czerka/Ithorian quests, or Luxa won't be
around.
I bet you're thinking that there was another way to do that, and you're
right. However, due to a bug (I guess), you can do it both ways. If you
keep Ramana as a slave, go back and talk to Harra. As long as you didn't
take her back to him, he still won't acknowledge that anything has
happened. He's in apartment A1, if you forgot. (You can also do this if
you didn't win her yet, but you can't do it if you ever took her back to
his apartment)
You can try to hit Harra up for the 1000 credits needed to wager for
Ramana, but he won't give you that. Better yet, tell him that you just
weren't able to do it and he'll mention that Doton has some troubles
with the Exchange. Interesting. Back to the bar! Talk to Luxa, the pink
skinned woman at the bar. Talk to her about Doton and the Exchange, any
line works, they all lead to him getting beaten. Now, at this point you
can try to back down ("Is that necessary?"), but Doton won't give up
Ramana with just the threat of an Exchange intervention (yes, you may have
already won her, remember this is a bug). Better to just thank Luxa and
let the beating commence. The dialogue options here are remarkably similar
to the ones you get if you just bring Ramana here after winning at Pazaak,
you can free her or not, or try to extort money from them. See above if you
want to try out one of those options. So, tell her that you'll let her
free for money and get 500 credits. But now you also have the new option
of killing Doton Het. (DSP for even suggesting it) If you keep Ramana,
Harra runs away and you get the option of deciding Doton's fate. Letting
him live gets you nothing. You can take all his money, and then you can
kill him anyway. (DSP for 2000 Credits, 250 XP, DSP for killing) If you
got her as a slave, got her first payment to you, then did everything
above, you can get a total of 3300 credits
Now THAT's villainy! Be sure to check the remains as well. Despite still
technically "owning" her, Ramana won't pay you after all this. Boo.
In apartment A2, you get to loot a Footlocker, which may have something
interesting inside (I've gotten everything from a Repeating Blaster, to
a Bowcaster to a Powered Battle Armor here). The owner of the room comes
charging in and accuses you, very rightfully, of theft:
Neutral: Just looking around.
> I'll be going now.
> repeat
DSP: Helping myself, what does it look like
> If you're smart you will
> I'm not going to take that from you
> You're right. I guess I'll take your life too. > FIGHT
You can steal from him without getting a DSP, you only get that if you fight
him.
One blast from Shock should kill him, unless he Saves. If you kill him, you
get a small dialogue with Kreia. You will automatically gain +INF+ with
Atton, and can talk to Kreia to determine her Influence. At best, you can
gain and lose with Kreia at the same time. Generally she doesn't like you
killing bystanders like this. (this appears for her whenever you kill
innocents)
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Are psychotic urges all the drive you? ... I am not speaking to you....
. - I didn't see you holding back. > K2 .
. - -INF- And what would you have done? > K3 .
. - -INF- When I seek your opinion, I shall ask for it. Be silent. > K-END.
. - -INF- I do not need your "advice"... or your judgments. > K-END .
. - -INF- Keep pressing me on this, and I'll add your body to the pile. .
. > K-END .
. K2: When one of us is committed to battle, then all of us are committed....
. - > K1 options, remove top response .
. K3: I would examine the situation as a whole, all of its ties to... .
. - -INF- They inspire fear, and respect. > K4 .
. - +INF+ Perhaps you are right. > K4 .
. - -INF- When I seek your opinion, I shall ask for it. Be silent. > K-END.
. K4: Perhaps... > K-END .
. K-END: I grow weary of this... .
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Alternatively, you could remove Kreia from your party before stealing the
items from the footlocker, then you get a dialogue with just Atton. (If you
don't know how, use START, then from the left it is the 5th icon, just go
over to Kreia's portrait and press (A) to de-select her)
Just tell Atton "Don't worry about it - we had no choice" to gain +INF+.
Sweet, sweet, influence.
Whatever you did in there, leave, and search apartment A3. There's another
footlocker in here, but no one rushes to its defense. We're done with
apartments for now.
Wander up the area to the center and use the Information Terminal there.
Download the map. You can try to go to other areas, but you must use the
Terminals in each area before you can go to them.
Now, you can just go straight to Czerka/Ithorian Compound, but as that is the
last thing you need to do here, I'll cover it last. For now, head to the
Shuttle to the Entertainment Module 081
Entertainment Module 081
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| ---------
---| |
---- | |
-------| |--| |
| || | Shuttle to
------- |W | d ----- Residential East 082
|Cells| | | || |
| | | | || |
-----d| -------|EM|GM|| | W - Workbench
|G | | | ------| | EM - "Evil" Merchant, Samhan
| --| | H ----- | | GM - "Good" Merchant
-|-d-|L| | d= | d - door
| | dL| | x p S| | | G - Lt. Grenn
| |R |L| | ----- | | L - Lockers
| --d------ --d--I-------- | R - TSF Recptionist
| | | | H - Doton Het
-------- | | ----------------- S - Swoop Races
| |------ | p - Pazaak player, Mebla Dule
| | x - Exchange contact, Luxa
--- ---
| |
Shuttle |
to Docks |
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You're in a module connector room to start with, take a left and down the
ramp. First door on the right is a Merchant, with dueling Duros merchants.
The first guy, Dendis Dobo, sells ... well, nothing worth buying that I've
ever seen. Pazaak cards you already own? Clothes? Great. The second guy,
Samhan Dobo, sells better things, and has a workbench. You'll see more of him
later. I'd tell you specifically what they sell, but it's random. Don't buy
anything, you'll want to save your money for now. You can strip everyone of
their Clothes and break them down at the workbench for Components if you
want. If you're going Dark Side you might see the new "Sith Underoos" that
the Exile will be sporting. Exit and go up the hall.
Here you find a Sullustan being hassled by some Mercenaries. Pretty obvious
Light/Dark choice here. Either let them kill him (DSP), or fight them. (LSP)
After saving him, you can kill the Sullustan, but you still would have gotten
that LSP from before. There's no peaceful solution. Check for remains of
whomever just died. If you saved him, refuse a reward for another LSP (or
kill him for a DSP).
Now you could do the cantina right now, but I'd skip it, go along the hallway
(make sure to get the map from the Information Terminal so we can transit
here easily later), up the next ramp, through the room, up the ramp and into
the TSF offices.
Talk to the droid to learn that your ship is gone, your droid is gone, but
your stuff is in the storage room opposite the droid. You can threaten all
you want, but it makes no difference. (50 XP) Also, despite what the droid
says (and your Journal as well) you can't work for the Exchange to get your
ship back. You have to go through Czerka or the Ithorians. You will see the
Exchange come up in both of those, however. The droid opens the door to the
storage room. Now, your things are placed in the "Detainee" lockers, but
you can loot all the lockers here anyway... so, you actually came out ahead
from getting jailed. Equip up!
Forward through the next door and talk to Lt. Grenn. Ask about how the
station will survive without Peragus, and follow that conversation to get
the New Fuel Source sidequest. Also ask him if he has any work you can do to
get the bounties sidequests, Batono, criminals and Batu Rem. Ask about each
of them to get your leads. You can slice the terminal behind Grenn for some
information, but nothing important.
When you're done with all the sidequests below, look below for the
walkthrough to the Ithorian/Czerka quests.
SIDEQUEST: New Fuel Source
This one gets "solved" out at Nar Shaddaa, although you never really
complete it. After returning from the yacht, you can negotiate with Vogga
the Hutt to send fuel to Telos.
Once you've dealt with Goto, return to Vogga for a reward, 500 credits and
2000 XP.
SIDEQUEST: False Batu
The lead for this quest sends us to the docking area, docking bay 3, which
is the Czerka bay. Talk to the Duros at the counter, and ask about a
passenger. He doesn't want to tell you.
Your confidentiality is protecting a killer.
[Persuade - 6 REQ] Don't worry...The killer is dead anyways.
You'll help me if you know what's good for you.
Whatever you do, the only option that works is [Persuade], and if you fail
Kreia bails you out. Anyway, he'll still require a 25 credit bribe. Tell
him it's Batu Rem to get the information that he came from Nar Shaddaa (no,
this isn't followed up on that planet). Take the Shuttle back to Grenn for
a reward, an item (Armorply Plating Mark II).
SIDEQUEST: TSF Bounty, Escaped Criminals
After getting this quest, the next time you go to the Czerka offices,
you'll see the two criminals talking to Executive Lorso. You can't stop
them here, they head down to the planet below. You do need to, however, try
to stop them or turn them in. Eventually you'll get down there and will be
forced to kill them. This quest MUST be advanced to this point before going
down to the planet, or you'll never be able to do it. Telling Grenn before
you kill them does nothing.
Note: You can tell him that they escaped the station, tell him they
worked for Lorso, say you killed them, and give him the line that
you chased them down and killed them. He'll say that it matches
their surveillance, and give you the reward right there without
having done anything. (from Darren Mckenzie)
Also, if you've started working for the Ithorians, this quest becomes
unsolvable.
You'll find these guys on the surface, just past the first group of
mercenaries. If you didn't get this quest, they are replaced with 3
generic mercenaries. They want you for your bounty, and fight you. Once
you get your ship back, return to Telos - Citadel station for 200 credits.
SIDEQUEST: TSF Bounty, Batono has Vanished
Batono worked for Czerka, but was snitching to the TSF, so that might make
Czerka a good place to start. First, talk to the Czerka officer standing
by the door at dock 3, area 126. Ask about Batono.
You don't know? But he oversaw these docks.
You're sure you don't know anything?
(DSP) You can tell me what you know, or I can hurt you, and then you will
tell me what you know.
The first two options will get him to reveal that Batono is an employee,
but that's it, unless you want the DSP, in which case you threaten to
hurt him. (50 XP)
Next go see Lorso in the Czerka offices and ask about Batono. She tells
you that he spent a lot of time with the Ithorians. Agree to find him
(100 XP). Off to the Ithorian Compound. Exit Czerka and turn left, straight
ahead to the Residential West. If it's your first time here, hit the
Information Terminal to get the map, and so you can easily come back here
later.
Enter the Ithorian Compound. You can tell the receptionist that you're
here to see Chodo Habat (whether you're working for the Ithorians or Czerka
doesn't matter, besides we are actually here to talk to Chodo). If you've
been working for Czerka, he won't want to talk to you. Ask about Batono,
tell him that Lorso said he'd been here, then you have to [Persuade] him to
tell you (always succeeds). Once Grenn's name comes up, he gives Batono up.
He gives you the passkey and tells you to go to apartment C1. (150 XP) If
you use the (Lie) option you get a DSP.
To Apartment C1! There are essentially only three ways to go about this,
the light way, where we turn him in to Grenn, the neutral way where
we take his money and forget all about him, and the dark way where we
murder him. (500 credits, 200 XP for his payment, plus XP for finding him)
If you take the Light way, you just have to convince him (which is pretty
easy) and he automatically comes with you. Mercenaries from Lorso will
attempt to stop you, but will have to be stopped. In the end, you get
your reward. (300 credits, 200 XP, LSP)
GLITCH - Now, if you took the neutral way above, or started the light way
and (lied) your way out of it, you can go to Lorso and tell her all about
Batono hiding in the apartments. From there you can offer your assistance
in finishing the job. (100 XP) Now, even if you LIE to him about taking him
to Grenn, if you lead him out of the apartment, you've actually just
started walking the Light path. The mercenaries appear, and you end up
fighting them and saving Batono. You're automatically taken to Grenn as
above.
If you really want to kill him and get your DSP, then the best way is to
mention Czerka right away, say it only matters that you get paid, that
Lorso will be happy to hear that you found him, and he fights you. You get
about 200 XP for his death, another 100 XP on the quest and a DSP if you go
and finish him off. Don't forget to search his remains. You can return to
Lorso for another 200 credits and 100 XP.
SIDEQUEST: Win the Pazaak Double Card!
In the Cantina, Entertainment District, is Mebla Dule, the Pazaak player.
If you want to win Ramana from the other Pazaak player here, you might
want to buy cards off her. I'd recommend buying all her +/- cards in
stock, but unless you really know what you're doing, avoid the Flip 3&6
and Flip 2&4 cards.
Now you just have to beat her three consecutive times while betting 40
credits to win her Double Card. The only annoying thing is that you can't
use (A) to skip her boring dialogue. Oh well. The deck I used here was:
+/-1, +/-3, +/-4, +6, +5, +4, +3, +2, +1, -4
Not the best deck in the world, but it'll do for now. The rules are simple,
if you've never played. Try to get a value of 20 on your side, either
through dealt cards, or as a combination of dealt cards and a card from
your hand. If no one gets 20, whoever has the highest total wins. It's a
best of three match. She's not very good, so this should be easy.
Note: Although she claims to retire once you beat her and take her card,
you can play her again any time you want by "Asking some questions."
This resets her to the "I'm only here to game" mode and allows you
to play again. No, you can't win more than one Double card.
Also, to get the Double card you must win 3 consecutive games, so no
exiting conversation to save it.
SIDEQUEST: Win the Swoop Race and Set the Record!
Just what it says, win the race. Not much to say about it. You can
[Persuade] to get him to waive the 100 credit entrance fee. Now, you can
either race normally, by hitting the speed ups and avoiding the obstacles,
or you can cheat. Simply aim for any obstacle in the first seconds of the
race (those purple floaty things work, or wait until the short wall later),
now pause with the WHITE button the instant before you hit the obstacle,
and press (A) to "forfeit." The game will unpause for a second, and you
crash. But you also just won, and it took your time from when time started
again as the winning time. (500 credits) This works on every track.
SIDEQUEST: Suspicious Goods (the Hold Out Blaster)
If you take the modified hold out blaster to Grenn he gives you the quest
to get to the bottom of this black market on Telos station. Sounds fine.
There's only one person who even sells weapons here, so go to the Merchant
in the same area, the Duros in the back by the workbench, Samhan, and ask
him about the gun. He's remarkably forthcoming about it. Ask about the
Black Market, and say that you'd like to get involved. (100 XP)
If you're going Light Side on this, listen to his entire plan first, then
once you know what he's after, go and report it to Lt. Grenn. (50 XP)
He gives you a counter-mission, some fake goods (presumably) to give to
Samhan and instructions on fooling him into making an illegal transaction.
Back to the merchant. Agree to escort him to the docking bay, and you're
transported to the Docks area. The deal doesn't go as Samhan might wish,
so he goes hostile on you. Take him out. Once he's taken some hits, he'll
surrendur. (500 Credits, 150 XP, LSP) Once he's in jail, Grenn thanks you,
and you can say something. If you say it would have been better to kill
him you get a DSP. But if you're going to say that, you may as well have
worked for Samhan. And obviously, once in jail, you can't buy anything from
Samhan again, and you never get access to his "special" shop. Although you
do get a discount from his lousy brother's lousy store.
And then there is the Dark Side path, which takes a bit longer to complete.
Follow the dialogue options until you get the option to help with the
smuggling (or that you "want in"). Offer to help and he gives you the
first mission, he wants you to take some leaves from a plant in the
Ithorian Vivarium. Agree, and head out (100 XP).
The Plant
The Ithorians are in 082 West, which is located just off the side of
the residential module we originally came from. Go in there, you may have
to talk to the receptionist. Enter the large room and take a left, and
another left into the Vivarium. If you talk to the Ithorian you learn that
they have a Security system. You can also get a [Persuade/Lie] to convince
him that Grenn wants samples, then he'll shut the security off for you.
Otherwise, use the console behind him, check the security, attempt to turn
off the Security and you have to [Computer] slice it (base cost: 5 spikes).
Once that is done, walk to the plant in the center, and take what you need.
(50 XP) No matter what, the Ithorian here won't notice... or care. Also,
if you just head to the plant first, you can attempt to get the leaf, and
with a high [Awareness] notice the security system, for a [Security] check
to disarm. (the same 50 XP) And if you can't (or won't) bother with the
security system, you can set off the alarm, then either [Persuade/lie] (as
above) or ask how he can keep you here, and you get the "if you stand in my
way, I'll kill you" line for the leaf, a DSP (and 50 XP).
Zip back to Samhan and give him the Leaf. He gives you the reward of 300
credits, (50 XP and a DSP) and will now allow you to access his second,
"special" shop. Ask for more work, and he'll tell you about a prototype
Ithorian shield located in docking bay 2. Sounds good. Head over there.
The Shield
Getting in to Docking Bay 2 might be tricky, but if you've already started
working for the Ithorians, or more likely Czerka, then you should have
Credentials. Go in, use the console to open bay 2 (if it says hallway
doors, just use it again). Where we're going is the storage room, which
is straight ahead in the dark corner of the bay. Open it and an Ithorian
will bug you. Although you can simply tell him that this is a robbery and
thus kill him, you don't get anything from it, not even a DSP.
Or you can try the subtle approach, just say you're here for the shield and
you can get an option to [Persuade/Lie] the fact that Chodo wants to
inspect the shield. (isn't it weird how this guy doesn't animate that
line? He doesn't move at all back there) All other lines lead to violence.
Kill him, or not, then open the locked locker for the shield. (50 XP)
Note: You can wear the Prototype Shield, it just doesn't do anything.
Back to Samhan. He is in shock that you got that for him and so gives you
more money than he had originally planned. (900 Credits, 100 XP, DSP)
Ask for the next job, and he wants you to steal medical supplies from
the medlab near the Ithorians compound. Why shouldn't the very wealthy who
can afford to buy it from Samhan have all the best medicine? Sounds fine
to the little Sith Lord in all of us.
The Meds
Back to 082 West, then enter the only other place here, the medlab.
Don't mind the Onderon Diplomat, he's meaningless (despite being the ONLY
person to ever be in here). Head to the back room. Our goal is the
Console and Metal Box to your left when you enter. Use the terminal to
open the box. It claims to use your Computer skill, but doesn't. Take the
medical supplies (and a medpac!) from the box.
As you leave, a TSF agent attempts to stop you. This can only end in
violence, no matter what you say. With that fool disposed of, head back
to Samhan for reward for your latest bit of ... anti-charity. (1000
Credits, 100 XP, DSP)
The Last Mission
He wants you to escort him to the docking bay. Easy. Things go fine until
the TSF shows up. Ah well, nothing lasts. She attempts to arrest all of you
and despite getting a [Persuade/Lie] Grenn Made Me Do It line, you're going
to end out in a fight (she never buys it). Take them out. This is a really
easy battle, one Horror got all of them looking, then I flurried to my
heart's content.
Samhan takes you back and dissects the experience. He supposes that he's
out of the black market for a while. He could always take up adventuring.
Or turnip selling. Reward time. (200 Credits, 250 XP, DSP)
Working for the Ithorians
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This is the "Light Side" option in Telos. The Ithorians are in the
Residential 082 West Module, which is at the end of the East 082 hallway.
Enter their base, tell the receptionist you're here to see Chodo, then go
up, then right and through the rooms to talk to Chodo Habat. He sensed your
arrival with the Force, and wanted to meet you. He also will offer to "heal"
you (raise your maximum FORCE POINTS) as a reward for helping them out. He
tells you that since Czerka came to this station, bad things have been
happening to their restoration efforts. One such was the loss of one of their
droids. They have a new one coming in, but need someone -- you -- to guard
it. (100 XP)
Mission #1 - Get the Information Droid from Dock 2
Time to head out. The docking bays are in module 0126, which can be reached
through the Entertainment Module 081, or via the Information Station
transit system, but only if you've been to the area once before and used its
station there.
If you haven't talked to Lorso, you will be propositioned (heh) by a couple
of men in Czerka uniforms. They want you to reconsider their offer. Last
chance to do so, but Czerka is the Dark Side option. Turn them down.
However you get there, talk to the Ithorian at the middle dock, and have him
let you in. You actually belong here, so it isn't a challenge. Go through,
use the console to open the bay doors. Stride boldly forward (after prepping
for the inevitable battle) and you'll automatically get into a conversation
then a battle with 2 melee fighters and 3 blaster wielders. Once battle is
over, the droid brings you a Modified Hold Out Blaster. If you aren't
proficient with [Repair] the droid tells you that it has been illegally
modified and gives it to you. Agree to take the droid back. (500 XP)
Check for remains first, then talk to the droid and take him back to the
Ithorian base. The droid gets to work, and you get a reward. (500 XP,
Infiltrator Gloves +2 DEX +4 SECURITY +4 COMPUTER USE)
Mission #2 - Meet with Loppak Slusk of the Exchange
Now Chodo would like you to meet with Slusk of the Exchange and attempt to
reason with him, or something. Slusk, however, won't take visitors. So, you
need to talk to Luxa in the Cantina to get a meeting with him. The cantina is
in the Entertainment Module. Either transit there, or walk. She's the girl
with pink skin guarded by Gamorreans. Ask her to meet with Slusk, and after
a bit of an exchange, she'll let you see him if you agree to get rid of him.
The Exchange offices are in the main Residential East 082 Module, the same
one we came in from. Kreia will speak to you just before you get there, but
it doesn't affect anything. Just talk to the guard outside, and tell him that
Luxa sent you to get let in. (If you feel like getting a DSP, and I don't
think you would, otherwise you'd be working for Czerka, you could kill this
guard, then use the terminal to get in)
Go on in. The receptionist will stop you and ask you if you're really
supposed to be there. You can avoid combat in the next room with:
[Force Persuade] There's no mistake. You'll open the door (only if you took
"Affect Mind" as a power)
[Persuade] Of course. Why else would I have been sent in? Perhaps the
mistake is in the system.
With these you can skip the first room of guards, otherwise she'll call them
in to attack you. Gamorreans fall easily to Will saves, so powers like Stun
and Horror generally work.
Note: You can talk to Vula again at any time to get the dialogue option to
kill her. This is obviously worth a DSP. Again, you should kick out
Kreia, as you'll lose influence there, but Atton will gain Influence.
There is an Ithorian in a Force cage in the room to the left, but our goal is
the room to the right. Before opening the second door, be ready for a blaster
fight (Energy Shields, or Energy Resistance). Open the door, and listen to
Slusk insult you, he won't listen to you, then Benok and his goons attack.
Once they're dead, search for remains (Benok's Blaster is nice). Then go
through the next door. Talk to the Gamorrean Boss here to get the next door
opened. Droids come out and attack you. Destroy them and you'll automatically
go in. The LEAST violent solution here involves turning on Luxa when she
enters, then making a deal with Slusk to keep him off the backs of the
Ithorians (550 XP). There is no way to side with Luxa, she'll always turn on
you. So, the path of "most XP" is to take out Slusk first with Luxa on your
side, then kill her once she turns on you. (1300 XP) However you handle it,
loot the office, use the security terminal to access cameras, holding cells
and deactivate the cells.
Back to the Ithorian compound for a justly deserved reward. Politely turn it
down (don't worry) to gain a greater reward. (700 XP, LSP, Lightsaber Energy
Cell Fixture, the FIRST PART OF YOUR LIGHTSABER! WOO!) If you take the reward
you get the exact same thing, but without the LSP.
Mission #3 Expose Czerka
Now Chodo wants you to find some REALLY good dirt on Czerka corporation, but
it can't just be garden variety, it has got to be good. So, he proposes
hacking the main Czerka database, but that can only be done from the inside.
The only lead he has is that an employee of Czerka hangs out at the local
cantina. So, that's where we're going. Hit the transit if you can, then enter
the cantina.
You can't miss the guy, he's the only guy in here in Czerka colors, ugly and
uglier. Corrun Falt is right by the dancer's platform. Talk to him. Ask about
Lorso, and mention things that wouldn't look good public. You want some dirt
so you need to get into the mainframe. He assumes that this is a joke. You
will need either 1000 credits to convince him, or [Persuade] or [Force
Persuade]. If your persuade wasn't enough to get it for free, you can try to
reduce the amount. If you have Affect Mind, just use Force Persuade. He gives
you the idea to steal B-4D4 to access the mainframe. To get B-4D4 you just
need to get the credentials from Odo Chano. (100 XP)
Go over to Odo Chano's office in the Residential East 082 Module, apartment
B2. Odo would love to help you, except that he really needs the Czerka
contract. Seems he has some debts with the Exchange, and just because you
took out the local leadership of the Exchange, doesn't mean he gets off
easy. You can try to teach him to lie, that his credentials were stolen or
you can repay the credits, but it doesn't work. (You could also just kill
him, but I smell the path to the Dark Side) His debt is no small sum, 2500
credits. He offers to repay you as he can, which you can refuse for a LSP.
(100 XP) You can also get the 2500 credits you need from Chodo Habat back in
the Ithorian Compound. You can then give it to Odo as normal, or kill him and
keep the creds.
With credentials neatly in hand, run down to the Czerka offices, the one
with the big red sign on the left, in and talk to the droid. Ask him to
follow you and show him the credentials. He gets reprogrammed with some
special modifications, and next thing you know... (300 XP)
You're controlling B-4D4. Leave the Ithorian compound and head back to
Czerka. Go in and talk to Lorso to get access to the mainframe. The droid's
new abilities to lie comes in handy. Dash in and the astromech droid in there
will bug you. Time to [Lie] again. No more options, just follow the thread.
There goes a droid on a rampage... what a weird experience. Peace at last!
Hit the mainframe. There are two options, Copy the data, and Erase your
own existence within their files (may as well). Get it and get out. You can
talk to Lorso on the way out if you want, it's amusing. Head back to the
Ithorian Compound and talk to Chodo. And with that, a lying B-4D4 is let out
unto the universe...
Note: When controlling B-4D4 on Citadel Station there are a few things you
can do before going to Czerka and accessing their mainframe. In
Residential Module 082 you can go and talk to Odo Chano the droid
merchant who will pay you 20 credits to keep you from telling Jana
Lorso about "frequent" and "unneeded" memory wipes. Also at the
docks you can talk to a protocol droid there and tell it that it has
not been relaying "up-to-date information" to travelers, Czerka is
now able to charge travelers "an excise fee" for staying of Citadel
Station and you are to collect it. Unfortunately there seems to be
no way to actually collect any money from anyone around the docks so
I'm not sure what this dialogue is for. (from Andrew C. Blevins)
You're back in command, talk to Chodo. He tells you where you are going next,
who you meet next and what you should do next. You can also get your reward
of +5 maximum force points. (500 XP)
Mission #4 Save the Ithorians
Well, on your way over to the docks, you'll be contacted on the comms by
Moza, who begs assistance against the armed mercenaries invading his
place. Time to head back. Once inside, the receptionist begs for aid. Kill
the mercenaries and the droids. Finish off the first group and head to the
next room and clear this one out as well. Next hit the Vivarium and talk to
Moza there. Agree to help him. (150 XP) If you ask for a reward (see the
Glitch below) and agree to help him you get a DSP as well.
Glitch: If you ask for a reward, then tell him to fend for himself you get
a DSP. Fine, makes sense. But you can do it again. And again. You
can do this until you get tired of it. Infinite Dark Side points.
Now that Moza gave you the key, head over to the main office to rescue their
fearful leader, Chodo. The mercenaries take you a little lightly, so someone
needs to put them in their place. Easy fight. Chodo and Moza will have a
conversation (despite being in different rooms, and not using Comms). You
can ask for a reward, repeatedly, for an extra 500 credits and a DSP. Normal
reward is 500 XP and a LSP. Search all the mercenary corpses for treasure,
and that is that.
Once you're done here, head over to docking bay 2, and onto the shuttle. Be
sure that you've done everything you want to here, you won't be back for a
while. Also, if you haven't started the TSF Bounty: Criminals and seen them
in the Czerka offices, you can't now. You can easily get them if you work
for Czerka. It might be that you have to head to Czerka offices before
starting the Ithorian quests.
From here go to the section on Telos - Planetside below.
Working For Czerka
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So, you decided to head towards the Dark Side? Enter Czerka, get past that
annoying droid, around the large room full of desks and into the executive
office. Talk to Lorso, and ask about the work. Take the job. She offers you
250 credits, but with [Persuade] you can get a little more than that. (300
credits) She gives you the "Ithorian Credentials" and sends you to dock 2
in area 126. (100 XP)
Mission #1 - Get the Information Droid from Dock 2
Head to area 126, and talk to the Ithorian. You have to show him the
Credentials to get in. Whether you lie to him or just ask to get in doesn't
matter. Go in, use the console to open the next door. You'll be getting into
a fight soon, so if you need to prepare, do it now. Then run over to the
Ithorian by the shuttle. The Ithorian seems happy to see you. Heh. He'll
learn. You're attacked by Thugs, 3 with blasters, 2 with melee. They're too
spaced to use grenades. They'll also attack the TSF guard, so I suppose you
could let them kill him.
After the battle, the Ithorian brings you a Modified Hold Out Blaster. With
[Awareness] you recognize the modifications, otherwise someone mentions it
to you. Then he gives you the droid. (500 XP, Hold Out Blaster) The Hold Out
Blaster comes with its own sidequest, listed above.
Yes, I'll get the droid back to the Ithorians right away.
Actually, I'll be returning it to the Czerka Corporation.
[Lie] Of course, I'll get him to Chodo right away.
Talk to the droid, and tell him where to go. Since we're working for Czerka,
that's where you want him to go. You can actually do either at this point,
if you changed your mind on who to work for. Convince the droid of the
rightness of your position.
At Czerka, Lorso will have Opo Chano look at the droid, but if you have
[Repair] you can volunteer to fix the droid... for a nominal fee of course.
(50 extra credits)
Note: If you come back and this room seems really crowded, then you just
found the Escaped Criminals, see that Sidequest above. Also, if that
happens, then the Droid will very often fail to make it into the
Database room, leaving him stranded out here for all time. Not that
he ever says anything.
You get your reward: 200 (300) credits, 500 XP and a DSP
She immediately offers you another job.
Mission #2 - Kill Lopak Slusk of the Exchange
Czerka has been having trouble with the Exchange lately, and Lorso wants to
liquidate the deal. So to speak. You need to talk to Luxa in the cantina in
order to get into the Exchange, and from there you will be able to kill
Slusk. Before talking to Luxa, decide whether you want to use her to deal
with Doton Het (see SIDEQUEST above), it does lead to a DSP, and can only
be done now...
When you first enter the cantina, Slusk's arrogant guard will hassle you, but
pay him no mind. He dies later anyway. There's also an arguing Republic and
Onderonian soldier in here. Pay them no mind either. Talk to Luxa. She's odd
and complimentary. (You can also ask her about the hold out blaster, but
it has nothing to do with her, see the Suspicious Goods SIDEQUEST above)
Ask to speak to Slusk, and she'll want you to ... *sigh* ... prove yourself.
Luxa, the Exchange and a Quarren Named Slusk
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Exchange Test #1 - The Weapon's Deal
Whether you want to kill Slusk or not, you'll eventually come around to her
way of thinking. Luxa wants you to work a weapons deal for her. No choice but
to accept. You give them the weapons, they give you the money, you give the
money to her. Simple. Very well. (50 XP)
You are to go ALONE to the med bay. So, press START, go over to the party
selection icon (5th from the left), and DE-SELECT both Atton and Kreia.
You should now be alone. Simply going into "solo" mode is insufficient.
The med bay is in the 082 Residential West Area, which is easily gotten to
through the Information Station just outside the nearby door. That or walk
all the way out there.
In the med bay, the comms will start ringing. Answer it, and they tell you
to head over to Apartment B3 back in Residential East 082. Head on over
there. The "B" apartments are the ones all the way at the end of this really
long hallway. Be ready for a fight before approaching the door. You don't
have to use it, they see you and let you in once you get near it. Go in and
wait.
The deal goes through just fine, but then they realize that you are the
reason they were buying weapons in the first place. Live Jedi being worth
what they are. (500 Credits) Battle breaks out, and you're still all alone.
In addition to the XP for killing them, you get 500 XP for completing the
deal... somewhat successfully. The Trandoshian usually has a Bowcaster, a
pretty decent ranged weapon, and not at all limited just to Wookiees.
It's quickest to use the information terminal back to the Entertainment
module, then right in the door to talk to Luxa once more. You can [lie] and
keep the credits, or keep it and call it hazard pay if you want, she doesn't
seem to care. (250 XP) If you pay you lose 250 credits.
Exchange Test #2 - Opo Chano
If you want to handle this one without gaining DSPs, you're going to need
some credits, 2500 to be exact. Use the Information Terminal to zip it back
to the Residential 082 East Module, and enter the B block of apartments,
which is ironically where we just got shot at in the bad weapons deal.
Ask Opo Chano for your money. He doesn't have it. If you want to buy anything
from him, now's your last chance. Basic choice here: (there are other options
that don't change the outcome)
Neutral
> That is not my concern. You've had more than enough time to get them.
> What if I repaid your loan?
> Yes, and I will take the credits to Luxa.
Neutral: (but you get to kill Opo) - make sure Kreia is NOT in the party
> Look, I need you to pay your debt to Luxa, or kill you, I don't have a
choice.
> Because if don't, she will not get me a meeting with Loppak Slusk.
> Then I will just have to kill you.
> I have no other choice.
No matter what you do, Opo is gone for good. If you have Atton in your
party, he'll gain influence by killing Opo. (But Kreia will lose Influence)
Return to Luxa after whatever you just did. If you went Dark Side, you'll
have to convince her that she can sell Opo's merchandise to more than make
up the credits. (500 XP)
Finish the Exchange
Luxa now wants to make a deal with you to take out Slusk. She'll get you in
if you agree to kill him. Sounds agreeable. And by that I mean you have to
agree to it. Exit the cantina, and once more (that's three in a row now)
take the Information Terminal back to the Residential 082 East area. Now
we can hit up the Exchange area here. If you took the terminal, turn around
and take the right side of the path.
Bug? Glitch? Everytime I get here, Atton asks me about working for the
Exchange, I reply a few times, then I'm forced back to the room we started
this Telos adventure in. I don't get it. Anyway, on to the Exchange. You can
tell the door guard that Luxa sent you to get in, or you can threaten to
kill him if he won't open the door, then kill him for a DSP. Then use the
wall terminal to page the receptionist and get in.
Go on in. The receptionist will stop you and ask you if you're really
supposed to be there. You can avoid combat in the next room with:
[Force Persuade] There's no mistake. You'll open the door (only if you took
"Affect Mind" as a power)
[Persuade] Of course. Why else would I have been sent in? Perhaps the
mistake is in the system.
With these you can skip the first room of guards, otherwise she'll call them
in to attack you. Gamorreans fall easily to Will saves, so powers like Stun
and Horror generally work.
Note: You can talk to Vula again at any time to get the dialogue option to
kill her. This is obviously worth a DSP. Again, you should kick out
Kreia, as you'll lose influence there, but Atton will gain Influence.
Once inside, you can go left to find an Ithorian in a Force Cage. There's no
Dark Side way to deal with him.
Go across the large room, through the next door, and up the hall. Before
opening this door, prepare for battle. Blaster fire mostly, so use energy
shields or Energy Resistance. Once through the door, a cutscene where
Slusk sets his captain on you. You get to reply to him, but nothing you say
changes anything. Fight! It's just a large, mostly blaster battle. Nothing
complicated. I took minimal damage with just Energy Resistance on, even
charging ahead. Check Benok's remains to get his blaster, a mildly better
blaster pistol. Give that to Atton.
Use Security/Bash on the next door, then run up and talk to the Gamorrean
boss to get Slusk to send out some droids. Once they're dispatched, you gain
admittance to Slusk's room. Now, I know what you're thinking, that in this
very large dialogue with lots of double dealings and whatnot, that what you
say might change the outcome. Nope. In the end, Luxa enters, and you have to
fight everyone. Yep. Everyone. True, you can side with Luxa at first, but
she'll turn on you eventually. Your foes are Luxa and Slusk, Luxa's two
Gamorreans and the Gamorrean boss and Slusk's two gun turrets. Take out Luxa
first, then just catch as catch can. (1000 XP when it's over)
Atton will pipe in about Nar Shaddaa not being the best vacation spot right
now, what with killing an Exchange boss and all.
Slusk and Luxa had items, and you can search a nearby Footlocker and Plasteel
cylinder as well. Then if you want to free the Ithorian, you can do so from
the nearby console.
Now head back to whomever gave you this quest, the Ithorians or Czerka to
get your reward.
Czerka Finale
When you re-enter Czerka, you'll notice that there's enemies here. All the
Czerka mercenaries are testing the free agency waters, so to speak, and have
taken up arms against their employer. Can't have that. Take them to task.
There's quite a number of them, and you'll have to fight all the way through
to Lorso's office. They all use energy weapons, and many of them use Sonic
weapons or disrupting weapons. These aren't stopped by normal, or even most
energy shields. Energy Resistance will reduce it all, however, but won't
stop it. Head over to Lorso's desk to find the leader of the mercenaries in
parlay with her. Without any fanfare, they attack.
Once they're dead, you can ask Lorso for payment, and she agrees. (800
Credits and 100 XP)
We also have business with her, so talk to her again. Tell her about the new
state of the Exchange to get access to a Czerka shuttle to the surface.
(150 XP)
Whenever you are ready to leave Telos, head to the docking bay, bay 3 and
talk to the Duros manning the desk there. You won't be back here for a
while, but you aren't gone forever. That said, if you haven't picked up the
Escaped Criminals bounty quest from TSF Lt. Grenn, now is your last chance
to do that quest (see SIDEQUEST above).
Talk to the duros to get your Shuttle. He gives you the:
FIRST LIGHTSABER PART: Lightsaber Energy Cell Fixture
And let's you into their shuttle bay. You can take it at your leisure.
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4. Telos - Planetside :TLOSP:
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You may see Carth or Cede, depending on how you set Revan back when you
talked to Atton as he and Grenn talk via comms. The Republic has plans for
you...
Resoration Zone 0031
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................|""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""/.. .. - impassable
..................+ +/... Sh - Shuttle
... --------...... |.... " - Beach
../ -- ... /..... x - Cache
/ |...| --- /...... M - Mercenaries
| Sh /..../ |...| M ...... + - Treasure
|x /...../ /.....| .... Mn - Minefield
| /...../ M /...../ -...
| /....../ /......| Mn ..
| .....| |......./ /---- |..
| .....| |.....| --- /...... |..
. ....| ....| - |....| |........| .
.. /..../ |....| x .|..... + |......... -
.. M ---- |....| ........---|.......... Exit
....------ /.......-----.......................---
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Unsurprisingly you are shot down. No matter who you work for, Czerka shot you
down. You wake up and talk to Bao-Dur, the one armed Zabrak (or Iridonian)
Tech Specialist. Talk to him to learn that you were a General in the
Mandalorian Wars, and that Bao-Dur really respects you. He has a plan to get
out of here that involves heading to an old military base and using a console
there to look for a way out. After the conversation ends (no chance for LSP,
DSP or INF), he joins up. You need to take Bao-Dur in your party, which
means that you only have room for either Atton or Kreia, not both. This isn't
a permanent choice, you can change it at any time later through the party
selection screen.
Note: You'll probably get your first "Lightsaber Stance" here. This won't
become useful until you actually get a lightsaber when you leave
Telos.
I'd take Kreia for her force powers, but Atton is fine (and has more to say
here, but it's just for color).
Bao-Dur
Tech Specialist -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 14 +2 Vitality 48 Computer Use 9 none
DEX 10 0 Force 0 Demolitions 9
CON 14 +2 Defense 10 Stealth 1
INT 15 +2 Fortitude 5 Awareness 8
WIS 14 +2 Reflex 4 Repair 9
CHA 10 0 Will 6 Security 9
Treat Injury 4
Feats: Gearhead, Improved Gearhead, Conditioning, Shield Breaker*
Items: Nothing
* Shield Breaker works to remove shields around opponents, when using
no weapon (hand to hand only).
You'll get to level up Bao-Dur right away. Put the STAT into INT when you
get it, and keep his skills maxed out. Take Treat Injury before Stealth.
There's no reason to make those Class skills, you can take them up as
Cross Class just fine. Bao-Dur works best without weapons to let him
use his Shield Breaker and later his Electric/Repulsor fists. So, to
enhance his hand-to-hand you can take feats like Dueling, or Toughness
as he really needs more Vitality quickly. His skills are already really
high, so taking the bonus to skill feats isn't necessary right away. He
gets feats too slowly for two weapon fighting to be a valid option, and
his DEX is too low for ranged weapons to be really effective.
Alteratively, used ranged weapons to keep Bao-Dur out of harms way. He
won't hit well unless you add some feats to help him, but eventually he
will be effective at it.
Note: Bao-Dur is impossible to gain influence for if you want to be
purely Dark Side. You can't gain influence with him just by talking
to him, you have to have him see you do good works, which you
won't if you're Dark Side. Also, you can talk to him all you want,
but it doesn't lead to anything.
This area has a number of monsters called Cannoks about, as well as some
enemy mercenaries to take on. The first group of cannoks is just (using the
map) up and right.
Walk down along the side of the crashed shuttle, and Bao-Dur will point out
the mercenaries. We'll get to them in a second, but first, go around the
blast zone to just between your shuttle and the green force field. You'll
see some mines. Bao-Dur tells you that this is one of two Weapon's Caches
in the area. Disarm/Recover the mines and get the treasures. (It should be
about 5 grenades)
Now go straight over to the mercenaries, they use blasters, making them easy
targets for those with Melee weapons, energy shields or the Force. Using
Improved Energy Resistance should let you avoid all/most damage. Despite
what it looks like, you can't use the Landspeeders. Continue down the path.
There's another Sentry Droid here. Take it out. Some mercenaries are hiding
behind a couple of mines here and will attack. If you don't want to set off
the mines, you can either set your NPC's to stationary, and move them
yourself in between the mines one by one, then set back to Aggressive or
Jedi Support, or you can try to Stealth up to the mines and disarm/recover.
It's next to impossible to recover mines in battle... someone always sets one
off.
Note: If you saw the Escaped Criminals back in the Czerka HQ, then the
two of them will replace the three mercenaries. It's roughly the
same fight. Remember to head back to Grenn at some point to get
your reward for killing them (200 credits).
This path leads down to a beach, with more Cannoks around it. Immediately
turn left and go up the beach. Kill any Cannoks and search around the rocks
for a bag with treasures. Go up the beach. Bao-Dur offers some advice about
avoiding the next mercenaries, go up the beach, or along the cliffs. Say what
you will it won't make any difference.
Continue up the beach and search for a plasteel cylindar with more shinies.
Now, if it's me, I go straight for the mercenaries in the center. They don't
ever move to attack you unless you get close enough, so there is plenty of
time to prepare yourself. Standard blaster battle affair. By this point I
had Improved Energy Resistance, so they didn't even hurt me. (at least until
they started using grenades, or switched to melee)
Now we're going to cut back towards where we came in, then up the cliffs
across a chasm to find the second weapon's cache. On the map you'll be going
left then down. Recover the mines, get the swag (there's two things to search
here) then go back.
Now, follow the cliffs along and down to an area with some bones. There's a
bag and a backpack here with more treasures. Now follow the cliffs along
until you get the Minefield warning. There are a couple of turret guns past
the minefield that will fire if you get close enough to the mines to recover
them. Switch everyone to a ranged weapon, and take the turrets out at range.
They can hit you as well, so use energy shielding if you don't want to take
the damage. (It's not a lot anyway) Destroy them and clear the minefield.
Head to the next area.
Czerka Excavation Site
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Our goal here is to get up onto the platform we see later, but for now we
have to fight our way past the sentry droid just ahead. Keep going to find
another Merc hiding behind mines and droids. She attacks. If you sneak up,
fire from a range, or use nothing but force powers you can then disable/
recover the mines here. Go around and up the pathway.
Now you're looking at the Czerka base camp. There are mercenaries crawling
all over this thing, and if you aren't careful, your companions will run off
and get themselves killed. Take it slow and cautious and this place is cake,
but if your people get isolated, they are easy prey and you can quickly find
yourself all alone. So, keep an eye on them and stay together.
The first group of mercenaries is just ahead by some landspeeders. Move
forward, and Bao-Dur will tell you that you have to fight, and the
mercenaries will talk to you. What he says makes it sound like Czerka set you
up, sent you down here, shot your ship down and planned to collect the
bounty. Who knows. You can't bribe them, so time for battle. Standard
battle tactics against a group of blaster wielders. They aren't bad at melee,
and their leader also uses a Melee Shield.
Now, if your people start running to the next battle, follow to keep your
group together. They typically run towards the platform, which has a couple
turrets and guards as well. It's an easy battle, but if Bao-Dur or Atton
run up here all alone, they're toast. Once the platform is clear, you can
go over to the Console and let Bao-Dur use it to locate your ship. He can't
actually find it, but finds a blip in the power grid that he wants to look
at. Then he mentions that you can find a shuttle in the military base here.
Sounds good. There is also a plasteel container up here.
Down the ramp, and to the right are some more mercenaries. The last group
of mercenaries is on the opposite side of the ramp, near the mined entrance
to the military base. Only after every enemy is dead would I start looking
for remains and treasure. There is a plasteel container near the mines.
Recover the mines and enter the base.
Old Military Base
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Entrance
| | FF - Forcefield
-FF- C - Console
| | ID - ID Card
| C | d - door
| | W - Workbench
-FF- L - Labstation
| | S - Shuttle
------ | | Cz - Czerka Employee
| | --- ---- . - Recharging Station
| | | ID| Terminal
---dd---- --- ---- x - "Sublevel", but you
| | | | can't ever go there
| | | | HK - Damaged HK droid
| |------ | | Cs - Codes
| S || W |-------d-------
| FF FF |
| || L |------ ------
| |------ | | Reactor
| | | | /----
| | |__| / C
--- ---| --FF--
|FF d C| | |
--- ---- | |
| | --FF--
| | | |
------| |--- ---- -----
| | | |
------- ---- ----dd-----
| | ---------- | |
| | ---| |--- | |
------d--------| ---- ---- |------- ----
| Cz FF d . d FF x|
----- --------| ----dd---- |------- ----
| | ---| |--- | |
| | ----dd---- | |
---- |Cs| |dd|
---- | |
|HK|
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There are several annoying things about this base. First are the Poison
Grates everywhere. See that indentation on the floor right in front of you
when you walk in? Poison Grate. Whenever you step on one of these, you
set off essentially a poison mine. They're everywhere. So make sure to walk
on the "solid" ground to avoid this. Second, there are forcefields
everywhere.
So, walk up to the forcefield and try to do something about it. Bao-Dur will
show you that he can deactivate any Forcefield in existence. Quite handy.
He does so, and you can see the gun turrets in the next room. If you just
run for the console in the center (thus getting poisoned), you can deactivate
the turrets (with [Computer] or the ID from later). You could also try to
Sneak over there, but you just kicked the door down, so to speak. And finally
you can just fight the turrets. Since you get NO XP for doing this the non-
violent way, and you DO get XP for killing things, you should probably just
fight them. There's a Salvage Pack on one of the poison grates here.
Head up to the next forcefield, switch to Bao-Dur and take it down. There's
one droid in the hallway, and a couple more in the side passages ahead.
Search the side passages for treasures, including an ID card. Go into the
next room and through, avoiding the poison grates. There's a normal door
here, open and go through.
There are droids on both sides here. Kill them and get the salvage pack in
the middle. Follow the dead end passage all the way down for a couple of
metal cases. Once that is done, go back up and down the passage that ends in
a forcefield.
There are 6 droids/turrets in this room, arranged in two lines. If you are
Dark Side, walk to the end of one of the lines, aim a Force Lighting at the
turret at the other end of the line and you will hit 3 at once. Other than
that, just a simple blaster battle. Energy Resistance and you'll be fine.
Once that's done, be sure to hit the workbench. Bao-Dur has really high
skills and can make some good upgrades/items for you. You'll be fighting
droids for the time being, so you can upgrade with that in mind. When you're
ready, have Bao-Dur take out the next Forcefield and be on your way.
Here's the shuttle, but we can't use it yet. We need to get the codes to use
the shuttle, and open the doors to get it out. There is a deactivated droid
here, but you can't use it. Also note the giant doors at the top of this
room. A giant tank droid will be coming out this way, so keep that in mind.
I tried placing mines near the door once, but it didn't set them off.
Note: You get healed when you get close to the shuttle.
Down the lower passage, over the poison grate, (there's a safe path in the
very center of it) through the forcefield to the left and use the Security
Control to finally turn off all poison grates. Yay. Now we can walk with
impunity! Search the four lockers here for some swag. The other room here is
the bay control room, but we need to reactivate the reactor before we can use
it. So, head through the lower Security Door and down the hallway. There will
be a droid on one of the side passages that leads to a door you can't open.
There's also a salvage pack there. Get some booty.
There's a droid sharply to the left in the next room. Kill it and go through
the Military Doors ahead. Here is a Czerka employee who wants you to either
help lead him to the exit (he'll follow you out, I'd do this in Solo mode
so your party members don't get in his way), or kill him on the spot (DSP).
If you have him follow, go in straight lines, and wait for him to catch up
or he might get caught on something and fall behind. Once you get to the
very first room, he thanks you and leaves (LSP).
Dark Side path > No, I'm not.
> Why would I waste my time?
> Yes, but I could just take that now.
> Why don't I just help myself to whatever you've got.
Note: You WILL lose influence with Bao-Dur if you kill him, and you can't
remove him from your party here. However, you can select him, use
solo mode to send him far, far away, then kill the Czerka guy. Your
screen will *blip* black for a second while the game tries to get
Bao-Dur to say his line, it can't find him and nothing happens.
Sweet way to get a DSP.
There's some loot at dead-end hallway that leads away from the droid here.
You have to use a mine on the plasteel container. Now head over to the droid
in the hallway. Behind him is a forcefield, and we can see more droids
hiding behind that. Bash the forcefield with Bao-Dur, go through and bash the
droids.
The next room has even more droids, so be ready before opening the next door.
There are two droid recharger rooms on the sides here, and if you don't want
another fight later, use the console near the closed door to overload the
droid recharging station, destroying the droids there (500 XP). If you don't
overload them now, you can fight them later, get the XP for killing them, and
overload it after the fact. Through the next Security Door. Nothing in the
next room so go through, and Bao-Dur bash your way through the next
forcefield.
A couple hallways to ignore here. However, if you want, turn right and go
down the "lower" hallway, through the door and to the HK unit. Repair it if
you want, it follows you then blows up near the intersection. The other
hallway leads to a door to the "sublevel", but there's no way down there.
Ever. Leave it, and enter the next room. Nothing here either so go on
through.
The small dead-end hallway to the left has some stuff in a metal case. Get
it then go up to the forcefield. You can see more gun turrets/droids in
the next room, but these ones WON'T be hostile until you turn the Reactor
back on. (I once tried placing mines near the turrets such that they would
explode once they went hostile. Didn't work, they technically never move over
the mines)
Pop the last forcefield, and go through to the reactor room. Use the console
and start the reactor, but be ready to fight those turrets in the last room.
The other two things you'll have to fight in this place on your way back is
the Tank Droid (by the shuttle) and if you didn't overload the droid
recharging station, those droids there.
Go back to the recharging station, through the now open lower doors, and
open the Security Door. Open the Footlocker to get the Datapad (Codes).
There's also a Metal Box in here.
Now go back to the Shuttle. You'll have to fight the Tank Droid here, but
it isn't that big of a deal. Use Energy Resistance, if you can, then just
hit it really hard.
Once that is dead, enter the room it was housed in to find 7 highly lootable
containers (one with the Jal Shey Neophyte Armor, typically. This is a great
armor for Jedi who want to use Force Powers in battle, it can also accept
decent upgrades like Strengthening Underlays). We're done with this place, so
now, to leave, enter the small room by the shuttle, use the console to open
the hangar doors, then go out and use the shuttle to head to... the
Telos - Hidden Base.
After you leave, the HK-50s make note of you leaving, and they send a few
units to intercept you. And they do.
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5. Telos - Hidden Base :TLOSH:
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Shot down, once again. What are the odds. Get up and confront those pesky
HK-50 droids that are always messing with you. You fight this battle with
Atton and Kreia, as Bao-Dur was knocked cold in the crash. The HKs use
blasters and disrupters, so you can't depend on Shields to protect you
completely. Be absolutely SURE to check their remains for:
HK Control Cluster (part 2)
Now, you can't do anything for Bao-Dur right now, so head towards the
small door in the center of the plateau.
Jedi Training Ground
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A group of handmaidens confront you and ask that you put your weapons away
and come with them. You have absolutely no choice but to go with them. If you
get angry and want to kill them, you get a DSP, if you put down your
weapons immediately, you get a LSP.
You get a cutscene showing Kreia and Atton, where she learns his deep, dark
secret and uses it to manipulate him. A little background on Atris, she was
one of those responsible for your "exile," mostly because she had looked up
to you once.
This Atris dialogue is interesting because no single line makes a difference
with Light/Dark, the whole of your conversation is judged. This way it
depends on how it ends out, rather than any single thing that you say to her.
All these little things add up with her and give you the DSP or LSP ending.
So long as you don't say anything too aggressive, and can make the Persuade
check, you can get the Light Path. Feel free to say anything that fits your
chosen alignment, you should be able to get where you want. As such, it
doesn't need a dialogue map, but rather a general path. Neither of the two
paths below will get her to show you your old lightsaber. You can't get it
back from her here.
Neutral Path > I am looking for my ship so I can leave Telos.
> Look, do you have my ship or not?
> When can it be returned to me?
> All the miners were already dead!
> The Ebon Hawk isn't yours, Atris. Return it.
> I won't allow you to put me on trial again.
> Just give me my ship, and I will depart.
Light Path > Tell me what you've done with my friends first.
> It was not my intention to come here, Atris - or see you
again.
> I'm not here to debate the Council's decision.
> I am looking for my ship so I can leave Telos.
> [Truth] Peragus destruction was an accident!
Peragus' destruction was necessary.
> Why don't you tell me?
> Why is Telos so important?
> But the Sith attacked me on Peragus - the battle destroyed
the colony.
> The Sith came for me on Peragus, to kill me.
> I don't know. Perhaps they were.
> If so, then I offer you my help. You'll need it.
> [Persuade] But I always understood war. And that's who you
need.*
> I will see what I can do.
* Even if you fail this, you're still technically on the Light
Path, it's just that Atris won't trust you enough to tell you
what to do.
The Dark Path is pretty easy to figure. Just keep saying the most violent
response, or about how you want to hurt her, finish with "you can't keep me
from my ship" and she'll banish you. You can't fight her, and you can't get
your Lightsaber back with violence.
Once all that's over, you can see there were only 2 possible LSP/DSP
situations, the one with Handmaiden when you entered, and the sum total of
how you dealt with Atris. My Jedi Sentinal hit Dark Side Mastery after
this dialogue. If this happens to you, skip talking to the Handmaiden until
after freeing everyone, as you can gain influence with Bao-Dur but gain an
LSP. The same is the case with T3, you gain influence with him at the same
time you get LSPs. I was still short of Light Side Mastery with my Jedi
Guardian, but he doesn't have the same problems a Dark Sider would have of
being forced to take the opposite alignment points here.
There are a few things to do here, and you won't be able to return here for a
very long time, and when you do return things won't be the same. Make sure to
search the place for treasures and fight the Handmaiden Sisters in duels (see
SIDEQUEST below). First, talk to any of the Handmaiden Sisters and ask about
your friends. She'll mention Atton having Echani training. Interesting, and
something to ask about later. Also ask about them all looking alike, then
about Handmaiden to learn that she has a different mother. Finally ask what
Atris is doing here, and you'll learn about artifacts. Follow that up to
learn that the "last" of the Handmaidens knows more about it. (requires a
Persuade check) Now, go around the pillar and talk to "Handmaiden" on the
other side. And although she joins you later (if you're Male), you can't
gain/lose influence with her yet.
Handmaiden..................................................................
. H1: You are the exile. The one Atris warned us about. .
. - Are you the "last" of the Handmaidens? > H-R1 .
. - I heard you know something of the relics Atris has stored here. .
. - And what did Atris say? > H2 .
. - Well, don't believe everything she says. > H2 .
. - Atris is the one you should be worried about. > H2 .
. - DSP - She was right - you're lucky I don't kill you all. > H18 .
. H-R1: I am the last of the Handmaidens, this is correct. I train so ... .
. - The others said you were easily distracted from your training. > H-R2 .
. - I heard you know something of the relics Atris has stored here. .
. > H-R10 .
. H-R2: It dishonors me they would say such a thing to an outsider... .
. - What do you mean? H-R3 .
. - I'm not sure I understand. > H-R3 .
. H-R3: There is much knowledge here, and only one of the Jedi remain... .
. - LSP - Battle is not the truth of the Jedi teachings. I believe it to .
. be the farthest thing from it. > H-R4 .
. - LSP - Combat is not the Jedi way - and it is not my way. > H-R4 .
. - Is this what occupies your thoughts? .
. - To lose those combat techniques would be tragic, indeed. > H-R4 .
. - DSP - When the methods to inflict violence on others is limited, it .
. weakens us all. > H-R4 .
. - And you would preserve it? > Handmaiden line > H-R3 responses .
. - If you are afraid of the Jedi lore being lost, why don't you try and .
. learn some of that lore? > H-R8 .
. H-R4: I know your meaning, but I have not been clear on mine... .
. - Devotion to their cause? > H-R5 .
. - LSP - Combat is not the best way to communicate with others. > H-R6 .
. - So you'd consider slaughter a means of expression? > H-R6 .
. - DSP - I agree. It shows how far you are willing to go for your .
. goals. > H-R6 .
. - DSP - Devotion? I prefer obedience. To a cause... and a master. .
. H-R5: Yes. The methods you use to meet your opponent speak truer than ... .
. - > H-R4 responses .
. H-R6: It was to the Jedi traitor Malak. It was to the Jedi traitor Revan. .
. - > discussion on Revan > back to questions .
. H-R7: If that is where one's devotion lies. When you risk pain or ... .
. - > H-R4 responses .
. H-R8: Even if I possessed the senses that the Jedi were said to have... .
. - Watch the Jedi? > Handmaiden line > H-R8 responses .
. - [Persuade] But how can you watch the Jedi effectively if you do not .
. know their ways of battle, of offense and defense? > FAIL, H-R9 .
. > SUCCEED, extra Handmaiden line, H-END .
. - [Persuade] Watching the Jedi is not about solely watching Jedi, but .
. examining their teachings, their training. One does not need to .
. practice, but to watch. > FAIL, H-R9 > SUCCEED, extra Handmaiden line,.
. H-END .
. - There can be no harm in looking. > H-R9 .
. - Research is no crime. > H-R9 .
. H-R9: I cannot disobey Atris. My loyalty is to her, and to her word. .
. - Of course it is. > Persuade options as H-R8 .
. - Is Atris always correct? > Persuade options as H-R8 .
. - Why does this Jedi knowledge interest you, if it is forbidden? .
. > H-R3 .
. - Then you are a fool. > Persuade options as H-R8 .
. H-R10: I know a little of them, yes. Much Jedi knowledge is stored ... .
. - Where is it stored? > H-R11 .
. - Can you help me obtain some of these teachings? .
. H-R11: The Jedi relics are kept by Atris, within the walls of her ... .
. - [Force Persuade] But not to me - take me there, now. > FAIL, H-R11 .
. - [Persuade] But surely they are not forbidden to Jedi such as .
. myself. > FAIL, H-R11 (you can't succeed here, or above) .
. - Where did these relics come from? > Handmaiden line > H-R11 .
. - So you have never seen them? > H-R12 .
. H-R12: I have seen a few of them, yes. They were not always in Atris... .
. - Can you tell me about the ones you saw? > H-R13 .
. - > other H-R11 responses .
. H-R13: There were many relics... among them small cubes, warm to the ... .
. - > Intersting lines if Kreia is in the party > K-R11 responses .
. H2: She said you betrayed the Jedi by going to war when it was ... .
. - Oh? > H3 .
. - She's just teasing you. I'm really not a bad guy. (or "like a sister").
. > H3 .
. - She's... exaggerating. > H3 .
. - LSP - I went to war to protect others, not to fight. > H3 .
. - Going to war was necessary. > H3 .
. - DSP - There was glory in battle - and none among the Jedi. > H3 .
. - I don't want to talk about it. > H3 .
. - I would like to ask you something. > H13 .
. - Never mind. I'll be going now. > H-END .
. H3: That is not all she says. She says you know nothing of loyalty to... .
. - And why was that? > H4 .
. - What? Dark side? > H4 .
. - (If Light Sided) I do not walk the path of the dark side. > H4 .
. - I haven't completely fallen to the dark side - yet. > H4 .
. - (If Dark Sided) Falling to the dark side came after. > H4 .
. H4: Atris says that you fell to the dark side in the Mandalorian Wars... .
. - So why didn't I keep fighting in the Jedi Civil War? > H5 .
. - That doesn't explain why I stopped fighting after the Mandalorian .
. Wars. > H5 .
. - If that were the case, I would have fought in the Jedi Civil War. > H5.
. H5: Atris says when the dark lord Revan returned to the Republic, you... .
. - Anything else? > H6 .
. - That is untrue, but Atris is entitled to her opinion. > H6 .
. - The Force aside, I was tempted to attack the Jedi, but I didn't. > H12.
. - I did not march with Revan because it was my choice. > H12 .
. H6: I believe that is the extent of her expressed feelings toward you... .
. - Expressed feelings? > H7 .
. H7: Yes. It is difficult sometimes for others to truly speak their... .
. - What do you think Atris' heart says? > H8 .
. - So Atris does not know her own heart? > H8 .
. - Are you saying Atris could be wrong about me? > H8 .
. H8: Without having seen you and Atris fight, I cannot say... .
. - LSP - Well, I have no wish to fight Atris. > H9 .
. - If I fought Atris, then that might make the truth come out? > H10 .
. - DSP - So if I crushed Atris' skull into the floor, that might get to .
. the heart of the matter? > H11 .
. H9: Then her expressed feelings will have to suffice. > back to questions .
. H10: Perhaps. It may prove truer than conversing with words... .
. - > back to questions .
. H11: I do not think the battle would go as you describe, but in... .
. H12: So it was a matter of choice, then. If Atris has erred in her... .
. - Did Atris say anything else? > H6 .
. - I'd rather jab myself with a Bothan stunner. What else did she accuse .
. me of? > H6 .
. H13: You may ask. .
. - You said Atris warned you about me? What did she say? > H2 .
. - You look... different than the other women here. > H14 .
. - DSP - Why does Atris allow me to walk freely? I could kill you all, .
. easily. .
. H14: I honor the face of my mother. It is not something spoken of in... .
. - So you have a different mother... but the same father? > H17 .
. - LSP - I apologize. I meant no offense. > H15 .
. H15: There is no need to apologize. You were merely remarking on... .
. - Is it a sensitive subject? > H16 .
. H16: It is not a sensitive subject, but a subject that requires trust... .
. - > back to H14 .
. H17: I do not wish to discuss it. If there is something else you... .
. - LSP - I apologize. I meant no offense. > H15 .
. - Is it a sensitive subject? > H16 .
. H18: I am aware of this. I do not doubt your combat prowess, as my... .
. - Your flattery means nothing to me. > H19 .
. - Remember that if you seek to challenge me. > H22 .
. - You are right to fear me. > H24 .
. - Half-sisters? I thought you looked different than the other women .
. here. > H14 .
. H19: I did not mean to praise you with my words. Perhaps it is your... .
. - Then you sought to insult me? > H20 .
. - Perhaps you need to be put in your place. > H21 .
. - Is it a fight you seek? > H21 .
. H20: Again, you have twisted my words to attempt to provoke me. That... .
. - > back to H19 .
. H21: The Echani believe you cannot truly know the heart of another ... .
. - > back to questions .
. H22: I will, exile. In truth, I do wish to challenge you. .
. - What? Why? > H21 .
. - Did Atris put you up to this? > H23 .
. H23: No, Atris has no bearing on this request. In fact, I think she ... .
. - > back to H21 .
. H24: I do not fear you. My words have been misinterpreted and need to ... .
. - > back to H19 .
. H-END: Before you go, exile... question for you, if I may ask it... .
. - It is a difficult thing to describe. > H-END1 .
. - I only know what its loss feels like. > H-END2 .
. - I don't want to talk about it. > H-END1 .
. H-END1: Please, I wish to know. .
. - > Various similar options, Kreia can add information .
. H-END2: Then tell me of its absence. .
. - > Various similar options, Kreia can add information .
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If you're male, then when you leave here, you'll soon find Handmaiden on your
ship. If you're female she never joins you, instead you get the Disciple,
who is found in the Enclave Sublevel, Dantooine.
Time to bust our crew out of their current jail. Go out either door on the
corners and take the path that leads over such that you are just "left" from
Handmaiden (on the map). The second you open the door, Kreia initiates
dialogue.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Did you find what you came for? .
. - [Wisdom - No REQ] - That depends. What was I supposed to find .
. here? > K2 .
. - A woman from my past has made this place her home. I did not expect .
. to see her again. > K2 .
. - Not exactly. We've been ordered to leave. > K2 .
. - I think so, but we have to go now. > K2 .
. - Yes, our ship will be returned to us. > K2 .
. K2: There was something from your past here - something unresolved... .
. - The woman here is a Jedi, Atris, one of the Council. > K3 .
. - She was one of the Council who cast me out of the Order... and wanted .
. to punish me even further. > K5 .
. - DSP - She means me harm. I may have to kill her. > K4 .
. - Well, I wouldn't exactly call her charming. > different line > K5 .
. - Stay out of my head, or I'll remove yours. > different line > K5 .
. - It's none of your business. > different line > K5 .
. - Let's just leave. > K-ATTON .
. K3: There is a Jedi here, in that you may be correct... .
. - Atris plans to heal the galaxy, then rebuild the Order. > K6 .
. - Aren't the Handmaidens students? > K7 .
. - Those who cannot feel the Force? > K7 .
. - DSP - She means me harm. I may have to kill her. > K4 .
. - Look, we need to leave, so let's go. > K-ATTON .
. K4: Ah, killing such a one could prove difficult and unwise... .
. - How would you kill her, if you had to? > K9 .
. - You're cunning. How would you end such a ... distraction? > K9 .
. - Are you done? > K-ATTON .
. - I've heard enough, let's go. > K-ATTON .
. - Let's just leave. > K-ATTON .
. K5: Ah, I see it now. The act has left its marks... the enemies we face. .
. - The woman here is a Jedi, Atris, one of the Council. > K3 .
. - Are you done? > K-ATTON .
. - I've heard enough, let's go. > K-ATTON .
. - Let's just leave. > K-ATTON .
. K6: Plans are fragile things and life often... cannot feel the Force. .
. - > K3 responses .
. K7: (Yes...) No... her servants are not Jedi. Their minds are walls... .
. - How do you know that? Were you reading their minds? > K8 .
. - Did you try to use Jedi mind tricks on them? > K8 .
. - > K3 responses .
. K8: Invade the mind of another? It is not something done carelessly... .
. - > K3 responses .
. K9: Direct action is not always the best way. It is a far greater... .
. - And what is her weakness? > K10 .
. - Anything else useless to say, or are you done? > K-ATTON .
. - Your doubletalk is starting to anger me. Speak plainly. > K10 .
. - I've heard enough, let's go. > K-ATTON .
. - Let's just leave. > K-ATTON .
. K10: Why you, of course. You are the gravity around which all her... .
. - I did not realize I had... affected her so deeply. > K11 .
. - Anything else useless to say, or are you done? > K-ATTON .
. - I will consider this. For now, let us go. > K-ATTON .
. K11: Oh, yes. Natural leaders do such things to followers... .
. - > K10 responses .
. K-ATTON: Very well, let us depart. Atton: Enhhhhhhh... .
. - Is Atton okay? He looks out cold. > K-ATTON2 .
. - What happened to Atton? > K-ATTON2 .
. - I'll shut down the cells and get you out of there. > K-ATTON2 .
. K-ATTON2: He is only sleeping - it seems the journey here has fatigued... .
. - He can sleep on the ship. Let's go. > END .
. - All right, then. Let me free you. > END .
. - I'll shut down the cells and get you out of there. > END .
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Immediately, Bao-Dur gets up and talks to you. There is no way to avoid the
LSP and get the +INF+ as well. Usually when that happens, I just take the
Light. When playing Dark, there are always more DSPs to be found. Your
conversation with Bao-Dur determines your party.
Bao-Dur.....................................................................
. BD1: I... am sorry, General. I must have lost consciousness in the crash. .
. - +INF+ LSP - There is nothing to apologize for. Are you sure you're .
. okay? > BD2 .
. - -INF- DSP - I have no use for a soldier who falls at the first sign .
. of combat. Be on your guard in the future. > BD2 .
. - -INF- DSP - We could have used you earlier when we were ambushed. Do .
. not fail me again. > BD2 .
. BD2: (reply to BD1, then) What is this place? Where are we? .
. - A Jedi academy - concealed on the northern pole of Telos. > BD3 .
. - Not now, no telling who might be listening. > BD4 .
. - Just get to the ship, we can talk later. > END .
. BD3: This must be where I detected the energy readings before... .
. - -INF- DSP - This'll be your new home if your wounds slow me down. .
. Understand? > BD4 .
. - Are you well enough to travel? > BD4 .
. - Keep silent, no telling who might be listening. > END .
. - Just get to the ship, we can talk later. > END .
. BD4: Of course, General. If you wish, I may travel with you or join... .
. - Come with me, then. I could use the help > END .
. - -INF- DSP - Just go to the ship - I will deal with your failure .
. later. > END .
. - Meet me at the ship and prep it for launch. We're leaving as soon as .
. we can. > END .
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After the dialogue with Bao-Dur, my Jedi Guardian finally hit Light Side
Mastery.
You can also talk to Atton for a LSP and +INF+ (they can't be separated) if
you already learned about his Echani training from a Handmaiden Sister.
Talk to him once, but stop the conversation instantly. Talk to him again and
say:
Light Path > I would have thought your Echani training would allow you to
recover faster.
> When we met those Handmaidens at the entrance, you dropped
into an Echani combat stance. Where did you learn that?
> I was just asking - no harm meant. I just thought it could be
an asset.
Ironically if you use [Persuade] to say it, you gain and lose influence at
the same time. The above lines are the only way to simply gain influence.
You can also badger him further, or [Force Persuade] for a DSP and -INF-.
Now you can search the plasteel container nearby for items. You can find
the dorms by going through the lower passageway, there are some containers
you can search there. There are also some containers in the small room
connecting the top prison tunnel to the main hub. Your ship is reached by
going up and left (as seen on the map). You'll find T3 held in a small
Forcecage.
T3, like Bao-Dur, will gain Influence almost exclusively with Light Side
Points (LSPs). Or you can say mean things and just get DSPs (and occasionally
lose influence). Even if I'm playing Dark Side, I'd just take one of the
options that gives Influence and deal with the LSP. After asking how he is,
you can pick one of these:
> It wasn't your fault they took the ship, T3. (LSP, +INF+)
> Look, I'm just glad I found you. (LSP, +INF+)
> Then fight next time someone tries to take the ship. (DSP)
> Don't waste my time with excuses. (DSP, -INF-)
He also tells you that Atris had been downloading from his memory.
Interesting... Search this room for treasures. There is a workbench and a
Lab Station here. Make sure your items are all up to date, and that you have
the best upgrades you can make.
If you're done here, head right, down the ramp, search the bay around for
containers with treasures, then onto your ship.
SIDEQUEST: The Handmaiden Sister Battles
Talk to any of the Handmaidens (except "The" Handmaiden) and ask to fight.
You might think this leads to a fight right there and some darkness, but
apparently they take it to mean sparring. You are taken to their dormitory,
stripped naked (only armor is removed), and told to fight without a weapon.
Jedi are pretty decent in hand-to-hand, but you can't use powers or stims
either. Finally you can't leave the battle mat, if you do, you forfeit.
First you fight one on one in hand-to-hand.
Second you fight one on one with melee weapons as well.
Third you can fight one on one with melee weapons and force powers as well.
Fourth is a two one one battle with weapons and force powers allowed.
Finally you can fight five on one with weapons and force powers allowed.*
* You can only do this last fight once, whether you win or lose.
Basic Strategy: Don't bother using Force Powers or Stims before talking to
a Sister, they won't last into the fight. Whether you win these fights is
largely dependent on your character and his or her fighting abilties. If
you are a Consular with 10 STR, DEX and CON, you should skip this. But a
Sentinal or Guardian with at least 12 or 14 in these fighting skills should
be OK. For all battles but the first, you can use a weapon. There is a
workbench out near the Ebon Hawk that you can use to make a new weapon
(such as a Vibro Doublesword) and upgrade a weapon as well. Also, they
don't restrict other equipable items, such as implants, shields, belts,
etc. Check to see if you have the best combat items equipped by removing
them from your companions.
Once in the battle, you can try using Melee shields, as this will keep
their attacks from reaching you for a time. When they allow Force Powers,
you can try using Force Barrier (if you have it) or anything in the Speed
family to give yourself a bonus. Dark Siders can use Force Lightning, but
to get the best effect in the final battle, you have to get them all on
one side of you, and you will get hit while you move. If you have a good
WIS and CHA your Force Powers that affect groups, such as Insanity/Horror
and Stasis can help.
Tips: The Echani Handmaidens also get disqualified if they step off the
mat. Using this, at the start of the battle, immediately run around
the small group of maidens and get up your melee shield. Now, there
is a chance that the maidens in the back will bump into each other
trying to follow you, knocking themselves off the mat, and out of
the match.
If you have Force Whirlwind you can use that to knock all the
other Handmaidens off the mat for another easy win. (from Dean Li)
Note: You might think to plant mines around the battle mat to give
yourself an edge. Don't. It does nothing.
Once you win all the fights you get 750 XP.
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6. The Ebon Hawk :TEBHK:
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Once aboard the Hawk, you blast off from Telos. T3 reveals that he stole a
copy of your sentencing from the Council, and you get to watch it in all
its glory. That means you participate. Despite what you might think, there
are no Light or Dark options here, so say what you want. Be defiant.
After that, T3 shows you a list of the Jedi Masters, and their current
known locations. Useful in either finding them to unite them back at
Dantooine (the Light way) or in hunting down and killing them (the Dark
way).
At about this point, Male characters will have the Handmaiden show up to
join you. To gain +INF+ with her (2 times) say these lines:
> +INF+ I will take whatever help I can get.
> +INF+ Look, forget Atton. Take the regular quarters, we have enough room.
Handmaiden
Soldier -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 14 +2 Vitality 78 Stealth 5 none
DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 8
CON 14 +2 Defense 16 Treat Injury 8
INT 10 0 Fortitude 8
WIS 10 0 Reflex 6
CHA 14 +2 Will 3
Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Improved
Power Attack, Toughness, Improved Toughness, Conditioning,
Echani Strike*
Items: Clothing
* Echani Strike is Handmaiden's special feat. It adds 1-4 damage to her
unarmed melee attacks, plus a 10% knockdown chance (DC 15 + Level)
Handmaiden is a Soldier now, but with the right Influence, could become
a Jedi Guardian later. To get her to become a Jedi, you need Influence,
but you also need to Spar with her at three different times (you need to
gain a level). Also, if you spar with her and the battle never ends, then
don't fight there. Go to another planet and fight there. Soldiers and
Jedi Guardians are roughly equal in all respects, except Guardians,
obviously, have the Force. Hold her level at 6 until you manage to get
her turned into a Jedi. Then you can level her up just fine.
After that (and another Load screen) Bao-Dur will offer to help you make a
new Lightsaber, once you can get the parts to do so.
There might also be exchanges between party members. This is actually a
common occurrence, and happens almost everytime you re-enter the Ebon Hawk.
This sometimes can have some benefits, such as letting Bao-Dur do some
repairs on T3 (+2 CON).
From here you can either talk to companions again, or head onwards to
the next planet. I typically save Korriban for last, but other than that
the order doesn't matter. I would absolutely NOT do Onderon last, as that
might make your game difficult to complete. The walkthrough will be going
to Dantooine first to build and upgrade our lightsaber, then Nar Shaddaa,
Onderon and finally Korriban.
Note: Whichever planet you choose, you will find all the Lightsaber parts
there, and fairly soon. To me, the quickest is Dantooine and Nar
Shaddaa, and then Onderon (Dxun).
Note: If you killed the Escaped Criminals on Telos, you can go back to
Grenn at Telos-Citadel Station for a 200 Credit reward.
You can add the HK part we got at Telos to HK-47, but you still need two
parts to finish him.
Go talk to Kreia. Just an easy Light/Dark option here, but there will be a
lot more with her later. You can also do her earlier dialogues (see the
dialogue map at the Telos - Citadel Station section). You can also ask
about her eyes, but this doesn't go anywhere until after Visas appears.
If you are at or near Dark Side Master, talk to T3 before Kreia, do his
upgrades (LSPs), then come back to Kreia to get the DSP. The first dialogue
here doesn't always come up, if your Influence is too high it won't.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: How many more do we intend to gather to us? This ship is not ... .
. - As many as want to come with us and help us. > K2 .
. - Only as many as I need - and only as many as will sacrifice .
. themselves to me. > K2 .
. - It is not my fault if they follow me. > different line > K2 .
. K2: Then prepare for an army, I think, for it seems many more will ... .
. - I'm no leader. > different line > K3 .
. - LSP - They're my friends, not my followers. > K4 .
. - What makes you think they obey me? > K3 .
. - DSP - I deserve such obedience - from them and you. .
. K3: Because I am not blind, that is why. I see what they see, hear ... .
. - Does the fact they obey me upset you? > K5 .
. - Why are you angry? > K5 .
. - How do you know that? > K5 .
. K4: Do not cloak one word within another. Friends. Do friends not ... .
. - LSP - They are your friends, too - maybe you could learn to see them .
. that way, rather than as followers. > line > K2 responses .
. - > other K2 responses .
. K5: I know many things, and I know what I am not - I am no leader... .
. - No, what? > K6 .
. - I've noticed their behavior is changing - Atton, especially. .
. > line about companions > K6 .
. - Is something happening to them? > K6 .
. K6: They echo you, either fighting or surrendering to their feelings... .
. - LSP - They are my friends, not tools. > K7 .
. - DSP - You have a point. I will reflect upon this. > K7 .
. - And what about you? > line > K6 responses .
. K7: I care not which of the words you use, as long as you make use of ... .
. - What do you mean? > INFLUENCE Check > SUCCESS, K8 > FAIL, questions .
. - I had other questions. > to general questions .
. - I've heard enough. Forget this. > END .
. K8: [Influence: Success] Have you never asked yourself how Revan took... .
. - Because she/he was a leader? > K9 .
. - She/He was a powerful presence - there was little one did not believe .
. when she/he spoke it with conviction. > K9 .
. - War makes bonds, it cannot be denied. > K9 .
. K9: Ah, but to make officers turn on their own people, to bomb innocent....
. - They came from the Sith empire. > K10 .
. - I thought teachings of the Sith came from Korriban. > K10 .
. - I do not know, and I do not care. > END .
. K10: Oh, did they? No, Revan met no Sith empire, yet she/he learned ... .
. - Do you have any ideas? > line > back to questions .
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Then talk to her again.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Yes? Have you come with questions? .
. - I want you to teach me more about the Force. > K2 .
. - > other options .
. K2: Very well. What is it that drives you? .
. - I want to build a lightsaber. > K3 .
. - > other options .
. K3: Indeed? A Jedi tool - and a Sith weapon. And why do you need ... .
. - LSP - To defend you and my allies. > K4 .
. - LSP - Because I feel naked without it. > K4 .
. - DSP - It represents power - and it can help me slaughter enemies .
. quicker, faster. > K4 .
. - (If Light Sided) LSP - The lightsaber is a symbol of the Jedi. It .
. inspires others, gives them hope. > K4 .
. - (If Dark Sided) DSP - A lightsaber is the most powerful weapon a .
. Sith can wield - that is reason enough. > K4 .
. K4: Then listen to me. There is much weight, much craving attached ... .
. - But how do I make one? > K5 .
. K5: The knowledge has already been imparted to you... .
. - back to questions .
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We'll be talking to Kreia again after Visas joins. For now, if you have good
Computer and Repair skills, find and talk to T3. He moves between the
Hyperdrive and the Security Room. Also to get him to let you do his repairs,
you need Influence, and all his Influencing dialogues also lead to Light Side
Points (LSPs).
T3........................................................................
. T3-1: Dee-deet? .
. - Could you please stop moving around the ship? It's hard to find you..
. > keeps T3 in one place, back to questions .
. - How's the Ebon Hawk? > T3-2 .
. - [Intelligence - 16 REQ] How did you get here, T3? > T3-3 .
. - T3, can you give me a list of the Jedi Masters again? > shows Jedi .
. Masters > back to questions .
. - You look like you've suffered a lot of damage over the years. .
. > T3UP1 .
. - [Computer] I might be able to upgrade your memory core. > INFLUENCE .
. CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - [Repair] You look like you're in need of some routine maintenance. .
. > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - (Available after the first is done) [Computer] Mind if I try to .
. - upgrade your memory core again? > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - (Available after the first is done) [Repair] Ready for some more .
. routine maintenance? > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - (Available after the first two are done) [Computer] I'd like to .
. upgrade your core again. > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - (Available after the first two are done) [Repair] Maybe some .
. advanced maintenance is in order. > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - (Last one in the chain) [Computer/Repair] Do you mind if I try .
. working on you one last time? I keep feeling like there's something .
. I'm missing. > INFLUENCE CHECK > T3UP2 .
. - > normal T3 options .
. T3-2: Bee-reet, deet! Dee-ree-deet. .
. - +INF+ LSP - Good job - glad to hear it. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ LSP - T3, I really appreciate your help. > back to questions .
. - -INF- DSP - Keep up the routine maintenance. If something goes .
. wrong, I'll hold you responsible. > back to questions .
. - -INF- DSP - Just be sure it stays that way, or we'll be using you .
. for spare parts. > back to questions .
. T3-3: Dee-reet? Deet? .
. - [Computer] You're deliberately avoiding answering - why? > T3-4 .
. - > other options .
. T3-4: Dwoooooo. .
. - +INF+ LSP - [Computer] Let me check your core. I'll be careful, I .
. promise. > T3-5 .
. - -INF- DSP - [Computer] That does it. I'm going to rip out your .
. module and get some answers. > T3-5 .
. T3-5: Beee-deet, bee-reeeet! Deeet, deet! .
. - +INF+ LSP - I want to make sure you're all right. Just let me .
. check, all right? > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCEED, CUTSCENE .
. - -INF- DSP - I don't care what damage it could cause - I want to know.
. what you're hiding. > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCEED, CUTSCENE .
. CUTSCENE: (T3 now shows you a Holovid of either Bastila or Carth .
. explaining what happened to Revan... and Carth if Revan was .
. Dark Side) .
. .
. Female Revan > Carth .
. Male Revan > Bastila .
. - Friend of yours? > T3C1 .
. - Is that message what you were trying to hide? > CUTSCENE responses .
. - Who was the person the hologram was talking about? > T3C2 .
. - So this help you came in search of - you came in search of me. .
. > T3C4 .
. - That message doesn't tell me where the Ebon Hawk came from. > T3C6 .
. T3C1: Bee-deet. Dee... deet, dee-reeet, deet. Deet.... deet. .
. - > brief dialogue, then back to > CUTSCENE responses .
. T3C2: Bee-deet? Deet. .
. - Another missing friend? > T3C3 .
. T3C3: Dee... deet. Deet. .
. - What happened to your old friend/master? Why aren't you with .
. him/her? > T3 explains what happened, some responses > END .
. T3C4: Dee, deet. .
. - But why me? I was powerless, defenseless. > T3C5 .
. - So you found me in my weakened state and placed me in danger. You .
. could have gotten me killed. > T3C5 .
. T3C5: Dee-deet. .
. - +INF+ I'm honored, T3. I will do what I can to stop this threat. .
. > CUTSCENE responses .
. - -INF- When this journey is done, you will pay for what you have .
. done, and for all you have put me through. > CUTSCENE responses .
. T3C6: (T3 has deleted his own data, you respond a couple times, then) .
. Deet. Deet. .
. - +INF+ LSP - Don't be sorry - maybe you had a good reason, or were .
. trying to protect someone. > CUTSCENE responses .
. - -INF- DSP - Save your apologies for someone who cares. Just don't .
. delete anything else unless I order you to. > CUTSCENE responses .
. T3UP1: (T3) How much damage? (T3) So you lost a lot of programs in your .
. behavior core - in addition to the damage to your frame? (T3) .
. - +INF+ LSP - Well, I'm sure you'll gain that skill back. I'm glad .
. to have you along. > creates first UPGRADE options .
. - -INF- DSP - Pray you don't lose any more of your functionality, or .
. I'll sell you for parts. > creates first UPGRADE options .
. T3UP2: [Influence: Success] Dee... deet. .
. - > If you skill is sufficient, T3 gains an upgrade, if not he makes .
. a loud annoying noise. You can always try again later unless you .
. lose Influence. .
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The Influence checks are minor, having any should be sufficient.
Assuming you can get them in the dialogue above, the T3 upgrades are:
(what you say after choosing to upgrade, whether "this will be over quick"
or "let's just tear off this panel" don't matter here, although they do
matter when you do the INT check to get the hologram)
[Computer, 1st time] +1 INT, 250 XP
[Computer, 2nd time] +1 INT, 500 XP
[Computer, 3rd time] +1 INT, +1 WIS, 750 XP
[Repair, 1st time] +1 CON, 250 XP
[Repair, 2nd time] +1 DEX, 500 XP
[Repair, 3rd time] +1 DEX, +1 CON, 750 XP
After all that, you can try to [Computer/Repair] one last time, but this
one gives YOU the bonus:
[Computer/Repair, final] Exile gets +1 WIS, +10 Force Points, 1750 XP
When you're ready, head to the Galaxy map, and off to Dantooine! (or
another planet)
Visas.
Whatever planet you go to, if you've seen the Visas cutscene, the next time
you enter the Ebon Hawk, you will have to deal with Visas. So, before
entering your ship, use an Energy Shield, then go to the Starboard Dormitory
and there she'll be. She ignites her lightsaber and attacks. If you don't
have good combat skills, this can be a difficult battle, but the best
strategy is simply using the Energy Shield. Once she gets to about halfway,
you "cut" her lightsaber and she drops.
The conversation with her, Atton and Disciple/Handmaiden (if applicable) is
loaded with Light/Dark Side Points (LSP/DSP) and Influence (INF) galore.
You can't influence Visas from here, but her alignment will closely match
yours anyway.
Visas.......................................................................
. V1: My life... for yours. .
. - LSP - I will not kill you. > V2 .
. - LSP - Arise - but do not attack me again. > V4 .
. - DSP - And what have you to offer more than your life? > V3 .
. - DSP - You pledge yourself to me? > V3 .
. - DSP - I am in need of servants, not corpses. > V3 .
. V2: You *must.* The alternative is only another death... .
. - LSP - I do not kill a helpless opponent. > V3 .
. - LSP - Look, you're wounded. Stand, let me get you to the medbay. > V3 .
. - Yeah? I don't really care what you want, since you tried to jam a .
. lightsaber into my skull. > V4 .
. - DSP - You may still die at my hands if you don't answer my .
. questions. > V5 .
. - DSP - We'll see if you survive my interrogation. > V5 .
. V3: I... have nothing to offer you. Your strength is superior... .
. - > MED1 .
. V4: *Kill* me, I beg you. I... it was not my wish to challenge you... .
. - I will not kill you. > V3 .
. V5: I will do as you ask... but I fear the answers you seek of me... .
. - > MED1 .
. MED1: Atton: Now I've seen everything. This woman... she's a Miraluka... .
. - What's a Miraluka? > MED2 .
. - Is her kind rare? > MED4 .
. - LSP - Is she going to be all right? > MED7 .
. - DSP - Will she recover? I have uses for her. > MED7 .
. MED2: Atton: ... I'm not sure how you'd go about killing one... .
. - Killing one? > MED3 .
. - > other MED1 responses .
. MED3: Atton: Just mentioning it - she looks like she's suffered enough... .
. - > other MED1 responses .
. MED4: Atton: I heard they had a colony on the Mid Rim, almost halfway... .
. - Maybe she knows. > MED5 .
. - > other MED1 responses .
. MED5: Atton: Well, it *was* a planet of her people. If they see ... .
. - See through the Force? > MED6 .
. - That's a cheerful thought. > MED6 .
. - I'm more inclined to think plague. > MED6 .
. MED6: They claim to see on a higher plane than we do, you know, the ... .
. - > back to MED1 responses .
. MED7: Well, some of her wounds are pretty bad - looks like she was ... .
. - LSP - If her condition changes, let me know - I didn't want to hurt .
. her. > INT1 .
. - Let me know when she awakens. I have questions for her. > INT1 .
. - DSP - I only want her to live long enough for the interrogation. .
. > INT1 .
. INT1: (If Handmaiden is in party) She is a threat to us. .
. - LSP - I won't harm her, if that's what you're asking. > line > END .
. - -INF- I trust her more than I trust you. > line > END .
. - -INF- She is useful, and I do not mean to kill her yet. > line > END .
. INT1: (If Disciple is in party) You spared her. .
. - LSP - I don't believe in killing prisoners - or the wounded. > line .
. > END .
. - -INF- I trust her more than I trust you. > line > END .
. - DSP - She is useful, and I do not mean to kill her yet. > line > END .
. INT1: (If neither is in party) > END .
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After that, you actually get a Vision of Visas, whatever LSPs/DSPs you
earned, some +INF+ with Visas and the:
Lightsaber Emitter Fixture (part 2 of 3)
So, you should now have two lightsaber parts, there are two more left to
get, the crystal and the final part.
Visas
Jedi Sentinal -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 12 +1 Vitality 30 Stealth 9 Energy Resistance
DEX 18 +4 Force 24 Awareness 9 Wound
CON 12 +1 Defense 18 Treat Injury 9 Fear > Horror
INT 10 0 Fortitude 6 Shock
WIS 12 +1 Reflex 9 Force Push
CHA 15 +2 Will 4
Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Flurry, Weapon Focus (Lightsaber)
Items: Clothing
Visas will immediately level up once you get outside with her. Visas
should immediately start working on Security, as there might come a time
when she needs it. I'd also stop working on Stealth and Awareness, but
keep up Treat Injury. Visas isn't into strength, so the first feat she
should take is Finesse Lightsabers. Now you just need to find her a
Lightsaber. She's already started on Two Weapon and Flurry, so keep
those up as well, then give her a double-bladed lightsaber, or two
lightsabers as you find them. As for Force Powers, she will do really
well with the Dark Side powers, such as Shock and Horror, so keep
working on those if you are Dark Side. If not, you may have to start
working on Light Side powers, but she'll be several levels behind having
used up early level powers on Dark Side. Burst of Speed is a good choice
as it is neither light nor dark.
Now Visas has joined your party. If you are going Dark Side, put off talking
to her until after you gain your Prestige Class, as everything in her
dialogue that gains +INF+ also gives LSPs. If you are going light side, you
will easily max out her Influence in one conversation. SAVE IT, then it is
time to talk to her. Force Sight, 500 XP, +10 Maximum Force Points.
Note: We save it because the chance to get Force Sight only comes up once.
If you ask "How do you see through the Force" and fail the INFLUENCE
check, then leave the dialogue, you then can't get it back. It only
appears once.
You have to increase your standing with Visas at least 4 times before
she will teach you Force Sight. It does not all need to be in this
dialogue, there are other ways to do it.
Also note, if you do all the Light Side options in her conversation,
it is enough to take you from Dark Side Mastery to not even showing
the final stages of Dark Side (you lose the grey, ugly skin, but
keep the "severe" look).
Visas.......................................................................
. V1: My life for yours. .
. - +INF+ LSP - Are you all right? > V2 .
. - How did you find me? > V6 .
. - Who sent you? > V7 .
. - I had questions for you. > VQ1 .
. - Never mind. I'll be going now. > V-END (if INFLUENCE is high) .
. V2: I am able to serve. If we enter battle, I will fight and die ... .
. - That's not what I asked. I asked if you were all right. > V3 .
. - > other V1 responses .
. V3: I... I have not heard that question in some time. My flesh is... .
. - +INF+ LSP - I didn't mean to hurt you. > V4 .
. - +INF+ LSP - In medbay, I... we... noticed you have scars. Who hurt .
. you? > V5 .
. - > other V1 responses .
. V4: I know. And I fear that others will see the mercy in your actions... .
. - > V3 responses .
. V5: The scars are many, and the causes equally so. It is of no importance..
. - > V3 responses .
. V6: I... felt you, heard you, through the Force. It was like a sound... .
. - > V1 responses, remove "Are you all right" .
. V7: I serve my Master. I am an emissary, a scout.... .
. - I need to know where I can find your Master. > V8 .
. - > other V1 responses .
. V8: You cannot. His vessel roams the borders of known space, and even ... .
. - Ready? > V9 .
. - You are in no position to "permit" anything. > V9 .
. V9: If I bring you before my Master, untested, without your potential ... .
. - I am ready to confront him now. > V10 .
. - +INF+ LSP - My life is unimportant - your Master threatens more than .
. just me. > V11 .
. - -INF- DSP - I will decide when I am ready, and I command you to bring .
. me before him. > V15 .
. - -INF- DSP - I order you to take me to him. > V15 .
. V10: You will meet my master. It is inevitable, I have... seen it. .
. - Why are you doing this for me? > V12 .
. - > other V9 responses + V1 responses .
. V11: I cannot - I will not. I would die first, and gladly, to preserve... .
. - LSP - If he is behind what has befallen the Jedi, then he must be .
. stopped. > V10 .
. - -INF- DSP - I need to find him and kill him before he is a threat to .
. my power. > V10 .
. - > other V9 responses + V1 responses .
. V12: There is a... a greatness in you, a greatness that does not stem... .
. - If your master has trouble detecting me, how are you able to do it? .
. > V13 .
. - > other V9 + V1 responses .
. V13: There is much I see my Master cannot. I fear it is because of my... .
. - Where are your people, your world, now? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, V14 .
. > SUCCEED, VQ2
. - > other V9 + V1 responses .
. V14: They are... gone. There's nothing more that I can say. > V1 .
. V15: It is a choice that can be made by neither one of us. .
. - > back to V9 responses .
. VQ1: I will answer what I can, but my answers may prove useless to you. .
. - Tell me about your homeworld. > INFLUENCE CHECK > VQ2 .
. - Was your Master the one sent to Peragus? > VQ14 .
. - Was your Master behind the destruction of Peragus? > VQ15 .
. - I have heard your species is blind. How are you able to see? > VQ16 .
. - How do you see through the Force? > INFLUENCE CHECK (4 increases req.).
. > VQ20 .
. - Never mind. I'll be going now. > V-END .
. VQ2: [Influence: Success] It is not a subject which I have spoken of ... .
. - How did your master destroy your homeworld? To kill on such a scale....
. it's impossible. > VQ3 .
. - Why did your Master destroy Katarr? > VQ4 .
. - How was it destroyed? > VQ7 .
. - I have seen similar acts of destruction... at Malachor. > VQ13 .
. VQ3: It was not a thing done with machines or weapons. The Force is ... .
. - Why did your Master destroy Katarr? > VQ4 .
. VQ4: The Jedi, the last Council of the Jedi, came to our world to... .
. - Why did the Jedi meet on Katarr? > VQ5 .
. - He attacked it because the Jedi had gone there? > VQ6 .
. VQ5: They hoped to see the threat that had been stalking them.... .
. - > VQ4 responses .
. VQ6: He cannot deny his hunger for long - and any gathering of Jedi... .
. - [Wisdom] Or it may starve him... make him more desperate. > VQ4 .
. - [Intelligence] Or it may starve him... and make him more desperate. .
. > VQ4 .
. - > VQ4 responses .
. VQ7: The planet was not destroyed, it remains... it orbits, dead in ... .
. - If your homeworld was destroyed, how did you survive? > VQ8 .
. - > other VQ2 responses .
. VQ8: I am not certain I did. I was there when the planet died... .
. - ...as if everything suddenly went silent. > VQ9 .
. - > other VQ2 responses .
. VQ9: I imagine there are worse deaths, worse pain. But if there are... .
. - You were the only survivor? > VQ10 .
. VQ10: I still wonder what would have happened if I had died ... .
. - He made you see? > VQ11 .
. VQ11: To this galaxy, my world, absent the currents and spectrums ... .
. - And why did your Master show you this? > VQ12 .
. VQ12: He showed me to make me believe in his cause... .
. - > VQ2 responses .
. VQ13: I have heard tales of Malachor. It is said that many of my ... .
. - > VQ7 responses .
. VQ14: I am not familiar with the place you speak of - my Master has ... .
. - What do you mean? > VQ15 .
. VQ15: There are many factions within the Sith, all seeking to take ... .
. - > back to questions .
. VQ16: My people once had the power to perceive events, to *see* ... .
. - You sound as if that sight is lost to you. > VQ17 .
. - I understand. > back to questions .
. VQ17: My sight has been... damaged. What I have taught you - it is not... .
. - > INFLUENCE CHECK (increased 3 times) > FAIL, return to questions .
. > SUCCEED, VQ18 .
. VQ18: [Influence: Success] My master - when he showed me my world... .
. - +INF+ LSP - When one endures, it gives hope to others - and themselves.
. > VQ19 .
. - -INF- DSP - There is no gift in pain - except the gift of strength. .
. > VQ19 .
. VQ19: Only when one suffers do certain truths become evident ... .
. - > return to questions .
. VQ20: [Influence: Success] If you wish to know, perhaps it is ... .
. - > Teaches you FORCE SIGHT > back to questions .
. V-END: Forgive me, but before you go, I must ask. Why do you do this? ... .
. - +INF+ LSP - Because I believe you can be saved. > V-END2 .
. - I don't really know why. I try not to think about it. .
. - -INF- DSP - Why? It is only that a weak servant is no use at all. .
. Surely the Sith has taught you that. .
. V-END2: You must not do this. I cannot allow you to weaken yourself for me.
. - +INF+ LSP - To help another is not weakness - it is strength to them .
. both. .
. - You have curious views for a Sith. .
. - DSP - I do not understand where your power over the dark side .
. comes from... you are too even-tempered and submissive for my tastes. .
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Now, let's get some more personal upgrades from our companions.
Go talk to Kreia. She isn't happy that you befriended the Seer. There's an
obvious Light/Dark option here, but that isn't the interesting thing. With a
high INT you can hit Kreia up for a DSP and infinite +INF+. Follow the
dialogue until: (take this path, even if you are Light Side, it's even more
valuable to you as it's even harder to gain Influence while walking in the
Light)
Dark Path > Because there is nothing to be gained by murdering her - yet.
> If she threatens any of us again, I will deal with her, I
promise you.
> Ties to her master, perhaps. And I intend to follow that bond
to its source when the opportunity presents itself.
> Atton said her planet was wiped out, that it was the only
colony of her people in this sector of the galaxy.
> [INT Check] Well, if her people all see through the Force,
then maybe someone wanted to blind them.
> [INT Check]... END
You can talk to Kreia about Visas' planet, and repeat the same answers over
and over and over. Infinite Influence. You don't need to do this more than
a few times, unless you are really in the Influence hole with her. She won't
ever reflect your alignment. There's another infinite INF bug below that
doesn't require INT, in fact, having INT makes that one harder to do.
One last thing to do, go and talk to Kreia. Ask her about the Force, and then
ask about what Visas did to your eyes, and she will have you stretch your
feelings out through the ship. This has nothing to do with Force Sight, and
you can do it whether you learned that from Visas or not. (There is some
amusing stuff here if you have Computer Use or Repair) This gives you a +1
Awareness, and +6 Force Points. You can repeat this lesson later (try it, and
if she won't do it now, come back in a level or two) for another session.
Note: There is an interesting bug here. After you see the Handmaiden in
the first vision, (or not if you're female) the game has you check up
on T3, and what's supposed to happen is you either make a comment on
it or you don't. It isn't supposed to stop the lesson. How this works
is if you have Computer Use of 1 or more, you get to comment about
it. If you have Computer Use of 0, you keep going. If you have a -1
in Computer Use from having an 8 INT, this lesson ends right there.
This is good in that you get +INF+ and can repeat forever. This is
bad in that you can't complete the rest of her lessons.
Talk to Kreia again for a follow up lesson. This time she wants you to
improve your weakest skill, and come back to see her when you have. When she
asks for your "strongest" skill, ask for one that you want a bonus for later.
If you're nice to her on this one, you gain +INF+. Technically, she will
count your "weakest skill" as improved whenever anything improves it, so
items work just fine. Find an item that helps your weak skill and equip it.
Talk to Kreia again. (1000 XP, +6 Force Points)
Note: Assuming your "weakest" skill was one you didn't have any skill ranks
in, you might wonder why you can't see the "bonus" that she gave you.
Some skills require that you have at least 1 rank in them to use them
(such as Stealth).
Now talk to Kreia yet again to continue the "Listening" lesson from before.
There is a level check here, but I haven't failed it yet. You and Kreia
listen in on everyone on the ship. Your character will be most amazed at the
bizareness of Atton's thoughts. Make note of it. (500 XP, +6 Force Points)
This is also worth a +INF+ with Kreia.
Now that we've gained some Influence with Kreia, it's time to ask her some
questions. During most options you can go back to questions and end the
conversation right there. We finally have enough Influence with Kreia to get
some things done with her. You can learn about her backstory ("Are you a Jedi
or Sith?) for 1000 XP. Once you learn about Revan, ask if "Did you know
Revan?" for 500 XP. You can follow that to learn "Did you train Revan?"
for 1000 XP. After the 2500 total XP here and the training XP above, you
are done with Kreia. There's no point in getting any more INFLUENCE with her,
as you can't affect her alignment.
Kreia.......................................................................
. K1: Yes? Have you come with questions? .
. - Yes, and I need some answers. > K2 .
. K2: Then ask, and I will do my best to answer. .
. - What do you know of Visas's master? > K3 .
. - You don't seem to like the Handmaiden. Why? > K5 .
. - What's wrong with your eyes? > line > Sight lesson (as above) .
. - Kreia, what are you - are you a Jedi, a Sith? > K8 .
. - Did you know Atris at all? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions.
. > SUCCESS, K10 .
. - I had questions about how Revan amassed such a huge force against the .
. Republic. > discussion on Revan > back to questions .
. - Did you know Revan? > INFLUENCE Check > 500 XP the first time > K12 .
. - If the council cast you out, how come Atris and none of the Jedi .
. Masters mentioned you? > lines > back to questions .
. - Do you know anything about the Sith who pursue us? > lines > back to .
. questions .
. - I have thought more about the destruction of Visas' homeworld. > to .
. the infinite INT influence as above .
. K3: He... if he can truly be called a man any longer... is one of the... .
. - Visas is not his slave, not any longer. > line > K3 .
. - He is no longer a man? > K4 .
. - How did he destroy her homeworld? > discussion on power > K3 .
. - Do you have any idea why he spared her? > line > K4 .
. K4: One cannot have power of that magnitude that her master possesses... .
. - -INF- LSP - I will never do such a thing. > K3 responses .
. - +INF+ DSP - If that is what must be done for victory, then I will do .
. so. > line > K3 options .
. - +INF+ 2xDSP - Perhaps I can convince her to sacrifice herself... that .
. would be a twin victory, I think. > line > K3 options .
. K5: There are countless reasons, and I have neither the time nor the... .
. - LSP - I trust her. She is here to help us, and allies should stand .
. together. > K6 .
. - LSP - She has offered to help us, so show her the same respect I show .
. you. > K6 .
. - We could drop her off on the next planet. > different line > K6 .
. - 2xDSP - Then perhaps we should stop talking about it and simply .
. eliminate her. > different line > K6 .
. K6: Do you think to turn her from Atris' will? If so, I hope your ... .
. - Why do you say that? > K7 .
. K7: Because Atris is a threat. And as much as she would try to use us... .
. - -INF- LSP - I do not see the Handmaiden as an enemy, and neither .
. should you. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - I will keep in that mind - and watch the Handmaiden .
. carefully. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - Agreed. We need every tool we can get if Atris tries .
. anything. > back to questions .
. K8: Does it matter? Of course it does, such titles allow you to break... .
. - [Intelligence] Then what were you? > K9 .
. - [Wisdom] To ally myself with someone without knowing their allegiance .
. is unwise. > K9 .
. - I want some answers, not more cryptic words. > INFLUENCE Check > .
. FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, K9 .
. - Enough of these lies. Tell me what you are. > INFLUENCE Check > .
. FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, K9 .
. K9: What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code of the... .
. - > Kreia's backstory (1000 XP for the first time) > back to questions .
. K10: [Influence: Success] Atris herself is not as familiar to me as ... .
. - What do you mean? > K11 .
. K11: Because Atris' path is one I walked long ago, and it is a chapter... .
. - What do you mean? > leads to Revan revealation > back to questions .
. K12: [Influence: Success] Perhaps... I think it is fair to say that ... .
. - Where did Revan come from? > lines > back to questions .
. - What caused Revan to fall, to turn on the Republic? > lines .
. > back to questions .
. - Were you the one who taught Revan? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCESS, K13 .
. K13: [Influence: Success] He came to me, yes. Both before and after... .
. - +INF+ 1000 XP the first time > lines on Revan > back to questions .
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Next, go and talk to Atton and ask about him playing Pazaak in his head.
Then ask him to teach you to play Pazaak. You can gain +INF+ by apologizing
for peeping into his head with Kreia. He basically tells you that he
just uses fake pazaak matches in his head to keep out Force Users. +1 to
Will Saves.
Handmaiden.
Like Visas, you only really want to start dealing with her once you hit a
planet. Why? There's a bug, where if you spar with her in certain places,
such as where you start, then you can't win at sparring and it will go on
forever and ever. And ever. Until you get frustrated and break the rules.
So, head to your first planet, then talk to her in the Cargo Hold. If you
are very Light/Dark she'll react to that.
The first thing we want to do is get her to teach us some training moves, so
ask to spar. You'll both strip to your underpants (hers are better), and
fight. You need to win this fight, but follow her rules. If you haven't
leveled her up, this is a ridiculously easy fight. You gain +INF+ for winning
and she asks you about your trial, only one option does anything: "Because I
felt they deserved an explanation. Maybe I had to hear me defend myself, just
to be certain." gives a Light Side Point (LSP).
Next, go through questions, ask for more Fighting Moves, then mention that
she is anticipating your attacks. Ask for training, and she'll give you a
very useful ability, Battle Precognition, which adds your WIS bonus to your
DEF. If you have a negative WIS bonus, it doesn't subtract from your DEF.
Put some clothes on (or armor), then talk to her again and get her to put
clothes back on, then learn that these were her Mother's Jedi Robes.
Note: There is the famous "Infinite Robes" bug here. Put on some clothes
yourself, then complain about her lack of clothes. She puts on
some clothes, which you can remove manually. Repeat.
Time to ask her some questions.
Handmaiden..................................................................
. H1: You may ask. .
. - Did Atris ever mention me? > lines from her earlier dialogue, see that.
. one in the Telos - Hidden Jedi Base section .
. - I wanted to ask you about Atris. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCEED, H2 .
. - Why do you look different than your sisters? > H7 .
. - Why are you called the Handmaidens? > line > dialogue from previous .
. dialogue, see Telos section for information on "last" of the .
. Handmaidens .
. - Do you have a name? > H15 .
. - I would like to return to the academy on Telos. > polite refusal .
. > back to questions .
. - What are you doing? > learn to FIGHT (see above) .
. - Can you teach me some fighting moves? > learn to FIGHT (see above) .
. - (If wearing the new clothes) Those look like Jedi robes you're .
. wearing. > H20 .
. - (If naked) Do you think you could put some clothes on? > puts clothes .
. on (if you aren't naked) > adds above dialogue option .
. - Never mind. I'll be going. > END .
. H2: She speaks of you often, in anger. But her movements, the motion ... .
. - Well, we didn't part on the best of terms. > H3 .
. - She made her feelings clear at my trial. > H3 .
. H3: I believe that your leaving the Jedi Order may have hurt her more ... .
. - A beautiful schutta, maybe. > H4 .
. - I always thought she hated me. > H4 .
. - No, Atris was a Jedi, I did not feel for her that way. > H4 .
. - If she had told me what she felt, perhaps the future would have been .
. different. > H4 .
. - I cared for her, but such things were never spoken. > H4 .
. - It is difficult to feel anything for one so cold. > H4 .
. H4: I have heard that Jedi sometimes renounce the code by loving ... .
. - Sometimes, yes. It happens. > H5 .
. - You've been watching too many bad holovids. > H5 .
. - I think the term is, "pulling a Bindo." > joke > H4 responses .
. - Part of the failing of the Jedi is denial of love. It is not .
. something that can be denied without losing part of yourself - or .
. your connection to those you are sworn to protect. > H4 responses .
. H5: That is what I have heard. I was not sure if it was something you... .
. - No, not personally. > H6 .
. - I think all Jedi are tempted at one time or another. > H6 .
. H6: I see. I have asked you many questions - I did not mean to. They... .
. - +INF+ LSP - If you have any others, you are always welcome to ask. .
. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - Only fools fear questions - and their answers. > back to .
. questions .
. H7: I honor the face of my mother. It is not something usually spoken... .
. - So you have a different mother... but the same father? > INFLUENCE .
. Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCEED, H8 .
. - LSP - I apologize. I meant no offense. > as in previous dialogue .
. H8: Yes, that is correct. I feel that I may trust you with such things... .
. - Yes, I would hear it. > H9 .
. - If it'll loosen you up a little, sure. > H9 .
. - It beats watching the dust settle. > H9 .
. H9: Though my father's blood I share with my sisters, I wear the face... .
. - Yusanis was a hero of the Mandalorian Wars, one of the greatest. .
. > H10 .
. - I didn't realize Yusanis had any children. > H10 .
. - Go on. > H10 .
. H10: He left our family to serve in the Mandalorian Wars. But his ... .
. - If your face is any indication, she must have been beautiful. > H11 .
. - So this woman was not the mother of your other sisters? > H11 .
. - Who was she? > H11 .
. H11: I never saw her face, and she did not return from the final ... .
. - What happened to him? > H12 .
. H12: He was slain by Revan in the Jedi Civil War when Revan sought ... .
. - Why tell me? > H13 .
. H13: Because when my father returned from the Mandalorian Wars, he ... .
. - LSP - I appreciate your trust - thank you for telling me. > H14 .
. - Your father's choice and my choice have nothing to do with each other..
. > line > H14 .
. - Do you blame me for Malachor V? > line > H14 .
. - Forget it, I had other questions. > back to questions .
. - DSP - You know nothing of my choice - and do not presume to. > line .
. > H14 .
. H14: I know it is difficult for others to see why I am here, but it... .
. - +INF+ LSP - I am grateful for your words, and for your assistance. .
. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ I will accept your pledge. Let us stand together then. .
. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - Then serve me - and serve me well, or you shall stand with.
. me no longer. > back to questions .
. H15: Before entering Atris' service, yes, I carried a name, as all the... .
. - What was it? > H16 .
. - > back to questions .
. H16: It is not important. My title and rank is of consequence, not my... .
. - LSP - You should take value in yourself as well. > H17 .
. - DSP - As do all slaves. If you have no value to anyone but Atris, you .
. have no value to me. > H17 .
. H17: We all have value in our oaths to others, and the promises we make....
. - LSP - There is some truth in what you say. Is that your judgment of .
. me? > H18, add final H17 option .
. - Are you making some comment about me turning from the Jedi Code? > H18.
. - Do you think that I lost myself when I disobeyed the Jedi? > H18 .
. H18: I do not know. That is a question you must ask yourself. .
. - Right now the only question I'm asking myself is why I'm letting you .
. stay. > H19 .
. - Keep your opinions to yourself, or I will make you regret them. > H19 .
. H19: I meant no offense, but the question remains. If the question ... .
. - > back to questions .
. H20: They suffice for training purposes. They belonged to my mother. .
. - They belonged to your mother? Who was she? > INFLUENCE Check > .
. FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, H21 .
. H21: [Influence: Success] She was the one my father followed to war ... .
. - > back to questions .
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Immediately after that, go talk to Kreia, who will reveal information about
Handmaiden's mother, and raise the possibility that Handmaiden could become
a Jedi. She'll bug you about her again when you try to exit the conversation.
Curiously, no Influence or Light/Dark options there.
Return to Handmaiden, and talk to her. (If you don't have enough Influence
for this, go to other planets, gain levels, spar with her a total of 3 times
and you will be fine) She will spar with you the first time after level 10,
then 14 and 18. After the sparring you will eventually get to this dialogue:
Handmaiden..................................................................
. H1: You may ask. .
. - I wanted to talk to you about your mother. > H2 .
. H2: What of her? As I said, I knew little about her. .
. - Did you know that she was a Jedi Knight? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, .
. back to questions > SUCCESS, H3 .
. - She was a Jedi, her name was Arren Kae. (as above) .
. - The Mandalorian Wars - she was one of the Jedi who served and died .
. there, and good riddance. (as above) .
. H3: [Influence: Success] This is already known to me. Why are you ... .
. - Because the Force runs strong in bloodlines, and you could learn to .
. use it to help others. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCEED, LSP, H4 .
. - It means you may be able to feel the Force as well. (same as above, .
. but no LSP) .
. - You can use that same power, but take a stronger, darker path. (same .
. as above, but with a DSP) .
. H4: [Influence: Success] I... think I have always known this. It has ... .
. - > Jedi training > What you say doesn't seem to matter > TRAIN .
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Whichever planet you head to, when you hit level 15 go back to the Ebon Hawk,
and you can get a Prestige Class upgrade. (You also need Visas, and a clear
Light/Dark alignment. You don't have to get Mastery to get a Prestige Class,
but you need to be close) You get a free level with your Prestige Class, so
try to do it the INSTANT you turn level 15.
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7. Dantooine :DNTIN:
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The first planet you aren't shot down on, congratulations. The first time I
played, I went through Onderon/Dxun first, where it looked like getting shot
down would be a trend.
Dantooine is a good solid place to start your wanderings, as it has the
Kinrath/Crystal Cave with the best lightsaber crystal in the game. Also, you
will build your lightsaber here.
Dantooine has a very sharp Light/Dark split, to the point where the planet
will be very different after you finish it one way rather than the other.
If you came here from another planet, put your lightsaber away before exiting
the Ebon Hawk. It disturbs the locals.
Influence Gains/Losses on this Planet: (just a heads up, see below for
specifics)
Bao-Dur (Mechanic, Atmospheric Sensors)
Kreia (Mercenaries, Vrook, Mechanic, Salvager)
Handmaiden (Mercenaries)
T3-M4 (Malfunctionig Droid)
Visas (Salvager)
Everyone (Akerre's Hydrospanner)
Dantooine - Khoonda
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| | | x| To Enclave,
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At - Militiaman, Atmospheric Sensor kins - Kinrath Areas
M - Mechanic x - Containers
Ip - Ithorian Pazaak Player G - Garage Door
S - "Sealed" door E - Entrance to Khoonda
T - Gun Turrets K - Khoonda
A woman greets you right off your ship. If you have a lightsaber out, she's
a lot less friendly. Just don't tell her you are a Jedi, ask whatever you
want to know, then leave her.
Also immediately off the ship is a Battered Protocol Droid, if T3 is in your
party, he'll notice right away that this droid is malfunctioning. You can
also get the [Awareness] This Droid is Malfunctioning line. Compliment
T3 on recognizing this to gain +INF+ with him. Then do a [Computer]
diagnostic on the droid and then [Repair - 5 REQ] Fix the memory unit. This
will bring Tarn, the mechanic over, as the droid now calls you a Jedi. Deny
this, either with [Force Persuade] or [Persuade] or he'll never talk to you
again. After Persuading him, you can tell him "But Jedi are defenders of
common people like yourself" for a LSP. Kreia will also be upset with you if
you admit to being a Jedi. If you fail to Persuade him, then you lose -INF-
with Kreia.
Note: If your lightsaber (assuming you have one) is out, you can't Persuade
him that you aren't a Jedi.
Also, this can lead to infinite LSPs or DSPs, see the Cheats section
below.
There is an Ithorian Pazaak player a little over to the left (listed as a
SIDEQUEST below), he also has a Locker filled with goodies. There are a
number of other containers around the docking bay. Be sure to get them all.
One has to be Mined open.
Leave the docks and through the passage to the large building, Khoonda. The
door we want is on the right side. (which is the "left" side if you look at
it from the Map) Enter.
A couple of women are gossiping about Jedi, and if you go up to them with a
Lightsaber out, they'll shut up real fast. There's a receptionist with some
useless information. Open the right doors and go through. Talk to Suulru to
get a quest (see SIDEQUEST: Suulru's Vaporators below). Take note that if you
complete his quest you'll get a guaranteed LSP. Go through the next doors,
and the doors after that.
Go up and talk to the Administrator, Terena Adare. You just need to find out
about Vrook here, as well as get access to the Enclave Sublevels. You can
talk to her for more information as well. You might think that she gives you
a quest to get the people to like Jedi again, but it's really nothing. You
can't ever complete it (and I've only seen one person that you can talk to
about Jedi not being so bad: Berun).
Leave her room, and go up the hallway to talk to Berun. He has some
information if you want it, and a quest (see SIDEQUEST: Changing of the Guard
below). Just behind Berun is a Rodian shopkeeper, who sells Lightsaber color
crystals (Green), you will need at least one of these to make a Lightsaber,
although you should get one later in the Crystal/Kinrath cave. Down the hall
is the captain of the guard, Zherron.
Go up to Zherron and talk to him. If you got Berun's quest, you can tell him
about it, but it changes nothing. He gives out a couple quests if you want
to try them (SIDEQUEST: The Kinrath Problem and SIDEQUEST: The Will). When
you return later, he will have a mission to deliver a message to Dopak of
the mercenary camp, which is easy and worth XP. The only other person to
talk to in here is Gerevick, but he's rude and ignores you after a sentence.
Leave the building. Time to hit the Kinrath cave, for both its sweet, sweet
treasures and to complete a couple of quests -- SIDEQUEST: The Kinrath
Problem and either SIDEQUEST: Changing of the Guard or SIDEQUEST: Atmospheric
Sensors.
The Kinrath Cave is "right" (from the map) of Khoonda, or just go in the
opposite direction of the entrance. As soon as you can, turn right to talk
to the militiaman there to get the Atmospheric Sensors quest (see below).
It helps to have Bao-Dur for this quest, but isn't required.
You'll have to fight through the Kinrath to even get to the cave. (The cave
continues after the SIDEQUEST listing for this area)
SIDEQUEST: Defeat the Ithorian at Pazaak
Another Pazaak player, another compulsive gambler. Buy cards from him
first to set your deck up. Get him interested in a game and he'll mention
that he has Armor Components that he might be willing to wager, but not
until you get all his money. If you play immediately, there won't be a
wager. Throw the game quickly, then switch the wager to 750 credits, exit
and save. Unlike the previous Pazaak player on Telos, you don't have to
win sequentially, but you must win 3000 credits to get him to wager the
armor components. Beat him then, and they are yours:
Bonded Plates Mk II
Environment Underdaly Mk II
Armorply Plating Mk II
Durasteel Underlay Mk III
Heavy Bonded Plates Mk II
Also note that you can lose thousands of credits to him, win the 3000
(meaning you still lose a lot of mone) and he'll still claim to be out of
cash.
SIDEQUEST: Suulru's Vaporators
Inside the Khoonda complex, you'll find a farmer named Suulru who had some
bad dealings with a Salvager. He accidentally left it behind and it got
stolen. He had to buy it back from Joran, then when he did, found it was
missing a part, that Joran would charge him another 500 credits to get.
Offer to help.
You find Jorran in the sublevel of the Enclave. You can either kill him on
the spot (DSP) to take the Vaporator part, or talk to him again later back
in the Salvager camp. He wants to sell you the Vaporator as well. You get
150 XP when you get it back, here are the options to get it:
- [Force Persuade] You will give me the modulator.
> [Force Persuade] You will give me 500 credits. (only works with
Dominate Mind)
- [Persuade] I saved your life. You owe me better than that.
- [Persuade/Lie] Can your conscience live with dooming Farmer Suulru, his
wife, eight children, and handicapped grandmother to starvation?
- [Persuade/Intimidate] Suulru is a former soldier, you know. He's hinted
that he might try to take matters into his own hands.
- DSP - I could take the modulator from your dead body, if you prefer.
Take the part back to Suulru. You can throw in 500 credits when you return
the part for an extra LSP, otherwise you just get: LSP, 400 XP (scales up),
and some random blasters. Even if you killed Jorran, you can't avoid the
LSP.
SIDEQUEST: Changing of the Guard
Berun, in the Khoonda Administration Center, believes that Zherron is doing
too much to antagonize the mercenaries, and he wants you to find some
evidence against Zherron. It's only a coincidence that Berun is next in
line to get his job. Once you find your evidence you have to present it
to the Admininstrator, not Berun, to finish this quest.
The evidence is the Atmospheric Sensors that the militiaman near the
Kinrath Cave asks you to collect. This quest is mutually exclusive with
that quest. You can't do both unless you follow the Dark Path in that
quest. (check out that SIDEQUEST below for more information on that)
If I'm not doing the dark path, then personally I would rather get the
credits and the same amount of XP from the militiaman than the paltry
500 XP from turning the sensors in and getting Zherron replaced.
Note: Zherron will be put back in charge when the mercenaries attack
later.
Doing this will make it impossible to turn in the Kinrath quest for
a reward, as well as the Will for that treasure.
SIDEQUEST: The Kinrath Problem
Zherron, in Khoonda, will tell you that they are having a problem with
Kinrath running around the area. Agree to help him. Leave Khoonda and
head to the cave (it's "right" on the map). Enter, fight your way all
to the back (or get the Musk from the mercenary just inside) and kill
the Kinrath Hive Mother. She is the only Kinrath that has to be dead.
Return to Zherron for your reward. (2000 credits, 250 XP)
Note: This quest cannot be completed if you have Zherron stripped of his
command (see Changing of the Guard, above).
SIDEQUEST: The Will
Zherron, in Khoonda, will mention a problem with Gerevick and some
salvagers. Turns out some salvagers died without leaving a good solid
claim to their recent finds. Now, Zherron has to hold on to these items
until a valid claim comes in.
When you reach the Salvager Camp in the next area, the female salvager
will ask you to search the Enclave Sublevel for the two Salvager bodies.
This isn't out of the kindness of her heart, she just wants the swag.
Once inside the Enclave Sublevel (see that section below), you will find
both the bodies, and the Will. If you want the items from Zherron you
MUST forge the will to give yourself the items.
Return to Zherron to get the claim. (500 XP, DSP, Lightsaber*, Crystal*)
* I think these are random. I got a Double Bladed and a Kasha Crystal.
If you didn't forge the will, you can still return it to Zherron (or the
Salvager, see below) for 500 XP and a LSP. But you won't get the shinies.
SIDEQUEST: The Atmospheric Sensors
Near the Kinrath Caves you meet up with Saedhe, a militaman. Talk to him
and ask what he is doing out here to learn that he is looking for some
"atmospheric sensors" that are missing from this crashed speeder. He offers
you a reward (and a "good one") if you can find them for him. He doesn't
know where they are, but I do. He offers you 3000 credits for all 3 of the
sensors (despite that, they are all one "item", so you don't have to search
for three different sensors). Right inside the Kinrath/Crystal Cave is
some "rubble" search it to find the Atmospheric sensors. When you find them
you can either use [Repair] (at least 15) to search them yourself, or with
an [Awareness] (of at least ) 4you can have Bao-Dur search them for you. In
both cases Bao-Dur can gain +INF+ if you compliment him (or he you).
Return to get your reward. Note that if you do this quest, you can't finish
the Changing of the Guard quest above.
When you show him the sensors, you can alter your reward with:
> [Awareness - 8 REQ] It sounds like it's worth more to you than that.
> (If you or Bao-Dur opened the sensors) Not so fast - we found a little
surprise inside them.
The first option gets you 4000 credits, while the second leads to 5000.
You can turn down the extra amount, taking 3000 and gaining a LSP. If
you don't want to be light sided, taking the 5000 credits is neutral.
You also get 500 XP. You can gain +INF+ with Atton, Bao-Dur or Visas
by taking the 3000 credits after asking about the surveillance equipment.
TE Whalen adds: Interestingly, if you bargain him up to 4000 with
> "Actually we found three of them"
> "[Awareness] It sounds like it's worth more to you than that."
> "I think I'll hold on to them for now."
Then speak to him again and go down the "Not so fast - we found a little
surprise in them" path, you end with up with 4000 instead of 3000
credits, everything else being equal.
There is a Dark Path here as well. Say these:
> Not so fast - we found a little surprise inside them.
> I'm sure that Azkul would be interested to know that you're spying on
him.
> I think I'll see what he'll offer for this information.
> Do you think I care about your pathetic farmers?
> You're a loose end now - time to take care of that. > COMBAT (DSP)
Note: If you do this, you will have to deal with INFLUENCES of your
companions nearby. Atton and Visas will gain influence, while
all others will lose it. If you have Kreia plus someone who
normally loses influence, Kreia will even out, while forcing the
other companion to gain influence. (which, if you use the infinite
Kreia Influence, works just fine)
You can then search him for the 5000 and some odd credits, but you don't
get the 500 XP (just the XP for killing him). However, you can use the
Sensors as evidence in the Changing of the Guard SIDEQUEST (as above)
for that 500 XP.
The Crystal/Kinrath Cave
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Ahrnell, the Mercenary
This place is pretty easy to figure out. When you first enter, you'll see a
mercenary walking by unharmed by the Kinrath. If you are persuasive, you can
get him to tell you the secret, and give you the ability to walk by Kinrath
without getting into battle. You can't get the Gland without taking a DSP,
but if you want one, it's easy enough to get. First, ask about why the
Kinrath don't attack him, then either [Force Persuade] or [Persuade] him that
he should tell you. He mentions the gland. Then ask for the gland. At this
point he'll ask for it back. Giving it back is neutral, however:
- DSP - My deepest apologies. My need is greater than yours.
- 2xDSP - No, I think I'll keep it.
- 3xDSP - Ha, I hear the kinrath coming, worm. You'd better run for it.
With any of the above options, he'll try to run for it and get eaten by
Kinrath on the way out. You can then kill the Kinrath for extra XP. Straight
out killing him for the gland is worth less XP, and no DSP. (and no Influence
reactions, either, if you're wondering)
Atmospheric Sensors
Find the Atmospheric sensors at the rubble just past a column near the
entrance. Bao-Dur will talk to you about them, and you can follow up with:
[Awareness - 4 REQ] Can you examine one of the sensors?
or, if you want to do it yourself (whether Bao-Dur is there or not)
[Repair - 15 REQ] I'll just crack one of these sensors and see what's
inside.
Succeeding at either of these will give you +INF+ with Bao-Dur and you
learn something about these sensors. (500 XP)
Search the caves for treasure! There are several passages, but only two
things are here, really. There is the mercenary camp, currently abandoned
up the first left tunnel, and the Kinrath Lair at the very end of the cave
which has a whole load of Lightsaber Crystals. You'll have to fight through a
boatload of Hive Kinrath, Hatchlings and the Kinrath Matriarch. (which, once
dead, allows you to get a reward for killing it from Zherron, see SIDEQUEST
above) (100 XP)
Tip: Use Mandalorian Melee shields or Force Barrier to remove/reduce the
damage taken from the Kinrath. Viper Kinraths can also poison you, so
a Breath Mask can come in handy. (Although Force Power: Improved Heal
cures poisoning)
Kreia (whether she is in your party or not) will tell you that this Crystal
Room holds memories in the Force, and that Revan came this way once. (Visas
Handmaiden and Disciple can also feel it) What you say to her doesn't matter.
She pipes up again when you find the very, very valuable "YOURNAME" Crystal.
(insert your name, there) This crystal will give very good bonuses to attack
damage, and best yet, to your stats. And it levels up, too. To level up
the crystal, talk to Kreia, if she says that it isn't fully bonded to you,
then remove it from the lightsaber, and have her re-attune it to you.
Note: Destroying the eggs seems to do nothing.
Take the crystals and go. There are four searchable formations, plus the
remains of the Matriarch, with crystals.
Once you've gotten your rewards from the SIDEQUESTS, head up to the only
other area here.
The Enclave Courtyard Area
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| | S - Sealed, former Entrance to the Enclave
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S_| | / | /
/ / | /----- | |
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To Khoonda | |
To Khoonda
Go up the "right" (as seen on the map) entrance to the next area so you can
start closer to the Mercenary base. The mercenaries are located just ahead
and right.
There are a number of things you can do here. If you have Mandalore with you,
talk to the Leader of the Mandalorians here, Esok, who decides to fight
rather than submit. Kill him and the other Mandalorians join Mandalore and
go to Dxun.
If you got the "quest" from Zherron to deliver the message to Dopak, you can
do that now, but he's just confused by it. If you want an easy kill for some
XP, or some DSPs, talk to Nallek. After he insults you, say one of these:
> A mudlicker? Is that even an insult? > COMBAT
Dark Path > You want to fight *me?* You're as dumb as you look.
> DSP - [Force Persuade] Let's have some fun. Hand me your gun.
> [Force Persuade] Now hand me your credits. And *never* speak to
me again. > gain 275 credits
OR > Your mind is beyond weak. Now let's fight. > XP for killing
You also get: Argazdan Riot Buster
Just beyond the mercenaries camp you can see the ruins of the old Starforge
map temple.
Head along the only path there is towards the salvager camp. Deraala there
has a SIDEQUEST for you, to get the two bodies from the sublevel (see below),
and also can be convinced to sell you Jedi items (after insulting you and
telling you to get off the planet, of course). If you're lucky, she'll have
the Zeison Sha Initiate Armor, which is an upgradable Medium Armor that Jedi
can use without restrictions on Force Powers. She also sells Robes, Crystals
and various Lightsaber parts. (not the kind that we use to build our
Lightsaber, the kind we use later to upgrade our Lightsaber, however, I
almost always just make these at a Workbench out of my old useless items)
She'll give you the quest when you say farewell to her.
Bug: Talk to Deraala for the first time, and get to her shop. Leave the
shop. Talk to her, and she will think she already gave you the
dead bodies quest.
If you want, talk to the salvager, Ralon (SIDEQUEST below), otherwise just
keep going to the Enclave. When you get closer to it, you get a cutscene
showing the damage.
Cross the bridge, and start fighting the Kath Hounds. To the left is the
"old" entrance, which is collapsed. But go that way anyway to kill the
monsters. Once they are all dead, head around to the other end, and watch
as 4 salvagers exit the Enclave. There is no Light Path, you simply don't
fight them. Otherwise...
Dark Path > I want you out of my way. Now
> You obviously have *no* idea who you are dealing with.
> You've tremendously overestimated your pathetic abilities.
> COMBAT & DSP
Once past them, open the doors and enter the Enclave Sublevel. (listed after
SIDEQUESTS)
SIDEQUEST: Ralon's Fake Holocron
The other salvager here, Ralon, is selling a fake Holocron. There, I said
it. You can get a LSP by finding out it is a fake, then giving him 500
credits anyway after he tricks you. Yeah, gullibility is worth a LSP. The
Dark Side option goes about the same way except that you take the Holocron
off him for nothing.
Path > Get to the point.
> How much do you want for it?
> Can I inspect the holocron? Maybe it's broken.
> That *is* a remarkable fake, but it's not even worth the time
you've wasted describing it.
From here, either:
Dark Side > Actually I *can* blame you. Violently.
> (DSP) Give me the fake holocron. Now.
Or:
Light Side > That's all you can say?
> So you didn't make this?
> Wife and children?
> How much money do you need?
> (LSP) Here's 500 credits. Just try to do something worthwhile
with it.
SIDEQUEST: The Two Dead Bodies
Deraala wants you to find the two dead bodies, for purely noble reasons
such as burial, of course. She offers to pay you 500 credits for each
body. With an [Awareness] you figure that she is being a little too
generous, but she shrugs it off. Salvagers got to stick together, y'know?
You'll find the bodies in the Enclave Sublevel (see that section below),
when you do, you can come back and give them to her for 500 credits each.
However, you can also, when you find the body with the Will, forge the
Will and give that to Zherron for the treasure. (see that SIDEQUEST above)
Forging the Will isn't Dark itself, but redeeming it for a reward is.
Enclave Sublevel
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------------------|--------v--------- S - Locked Door
| ----S---- --- | ---S---- ---- | = - open passway
---| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Dr - Droids
|J S |[ = B ]| | |[ = ]| | W - Workstation
---- | | | | | | | | | | | | ---- J - Jorran
| ----| -- -- / -S------ |---- | D - Disciple
| =(*) --/ |Dr W| | | V - Signs of Vrook
| | |------ _ ------- | |---| C - Destructible
/ | S | | | ----|--| | |--- Console
-/ /- -----S--- -- | = S | D V B - Salvager Body
G | | |C |--| S / G - Gerevick
- -/ /-----S--- -- | = = | |---/ (on exit)
/ | = | |_| ----|--| |---| X - Storage Door
| |--------- -------- | | Y - Storage Room
| = S | /-- |Y X | | |
| `------S-- -- / B ------S| |---' |
---- | | | | | | | | | | | | ----
| S |[ = ]| | |[ = ]| |
---| | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| ---- ---S---- | ---- ----S--- |
------------------|---------------/-
If you haven't gotten Visas by now, and have gotten her cutscene earlier
(she's the woman who gets chocked by the masked caped dude in the ship that
looks like a Star Destroyer), I would go back to the Ebon Hawk now to get
her. She's handy to have, and if you are Dark Sided, she has an Influence
option coming up. (I list Visas up in the previous Ebon Hawk section above)
Also, if you haven't built it already, bring Bao-Dur so you can finish your
Lightsaber early.
You get 150 XP for just entering this place. The best way to go is forward,
ignore the opening to the left, around the fountain, and through the door
that was straight across from the entrance.
Take out the two mines here, then forward. Be careful for Laigreks, although
they aren't too big of a problem for you. Ignore the two side doors for now
and charge all the way forward, killing any monsters around. Get the stuff
in the Footlocker here, then back to the two doors. The opened door has
nothing in it, so open up the Locked Door. Another locked door and footlocker
later you get some items.
Back to the fountain. We're going to be going "up" the next passage (as seen
on the map). There will be Laigreks along the way. The first room you pass
on the right, a little round room, has nothing in it. Pass it and keep going.
Jorran, the Brave
The next room, however, has Jorran locked inside. You can't open the door,
he must open it himself. If you're Dark Side, the absolute easiest way to
deal with him is to [Lie] Yes, the Laigreks are all dead. This gets him
eaten by monsters. Do this if you have Kreia in your party, she'll get +INF+,
plus you get a DSP. If you've killed the laigreks around, then you obviously
can't get that option. The more interesting Dark Side option is to let him
out, give him the "Saving you. How quaint" line followed by "People think
you're already dead. They're right." to kill him, get a DSP plus a INFLUENCE
reaction from various party members, such as Visas and Atton. Remember you
can only gain influence with one person at a time with things like this.
If you're Light Side, you merely have to clear out the monsters here then let
him out. (50 XP) Then you have to go back to the Salvager Camp and talk to
him again. He's greedy, and wants 1000 credits for the Lightsaber Parts &
Crystal that he found. All you can do is pay him the 1000 credits.
You get: Lightsaber Focusing Lens (part 3 of 3)
If you already built your lightsaber, obviously you won't get it here.
You can't build more than one lightsaber. If you already built your
lightsaber you'll get a random Lightsaber off him.
Now talk to Bao-Dur at any time to build your lightsaber. You MUST have a
color crystal already (luckily we have at least one from the Crystal Cave).
Decide on single or double-bladed. I always take double. (2000 XP) Now
head back to the workbench from earlier and upgrade this bad boy with all
the crystals you found. Then start creating Lightsaber parts to add to it.
Very quickly you have a devastating weapon.
If you killed him, also search his things for the Evaporator Module. (150 XP)
If you did the Light Side, you'll have to get this off him at the Salvager
Camp.
There's nothing in Jorran's room, so time to move on. This passage turns
right and goes across the top of this area. There will be a locked door,
followed by an open door. These go to the same place. Skip the locked door
and go into the open door. (this keeps the mine from going off later) Kill
the laigrek and recover the mine. You will find the first Salvager Corpse.
This is important for The Will SIDEQUEST from above. Open the locked door to
the side, there's nothing in this room, then open the last locked door at
the top (this is just for the XP of using Security).
Keep going through the passage, it turns right to go down, through a small
round room, nothing there (maybe a Laigrek), so back up into the next
passage.
This leads to another of the door-then-door situations, with the first door
being STUCK, and only openable by bashing (or instantly using a Plasma Torch
or Lightsaber). Just ignore the stuck door, keep going, then down through
the open door. Nothing in the first room, so across to the other. Recover
the mine, then through the Locked door at the bottom.
Search for Signs of Vrook
Protocol Droids, lots of Protocol Droids. Reactivate the Droids (1 part)
and send them on their way. (base cost: 6 parts) (280 XP, but this XP reward
scales up in level) Do this for each droid for a total of 1680 XP. What this
does is send walking explosives towards the Laigreks still in the
passageways. You can watch the droid's progress on the nearby console, and
every once in awhile, hear the explosions (it will also show the XP gained
for the kills). There are also 3 Broken Droids, 2 Lockers and a Workbench in
here. Once you've upgraded/created anything you can, exit these rooms, and
continue on the passage.
If you've activated all the droids, these hallways might now be clear
(although you might still see a droid wandering about, or a laigrek that
wasn't taken out). Continue along, then down the hallway.
There will be a short circuiting conduit on your right, with some locked
doors. You can sneak in, overload the circuits, then sneak out and watch it
take out the monsters. Or, more likely, you kill the monsters, then overload
the circuits afterwards. This takes [Repair] of 1 part, and [Computer] with
one spike. (210 XP) Set it to 20 seconds and run away, every single conduit
there is going to blow.
Across the hall, and through the door into the library to talk to Disciple.
A couple things to know about him. First, he will join if you're playing a
female main character. Second, he'll return to Khoonda if you're a male
character. Third, he's the easiest companion to convert to a Jedi. If you
follow the dialogue map below, you can do it right here.
Note: In his first dialogue, just ask him every question until they all
disappear. To gain +INF+ with him, finish with either "We would
welcome your company." or "We need all the help we can get. And he
seems capable."
Disciple
Soldier -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 14 +2 Vitality 78 Stealth 5 none
DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 8
CON 14 +2 Defense 15 Treat Injury 8
INT 10 0 Fortitude 8
WIS 10 0 Reflex 6
CHA 14 +2 Will 3
Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Close Combat,
Toughness, Improved Toughness
Items: Clothing
Disciple can become a Jedi Consular if you talk to him and gain enough
influence (see that dialogue map below). However, Consulars gain fewer
feats. So, if you want to gain a few extra feats, give Disciple a few
(3 or so) levels more of Soldier. Otherwise, just hold off on leveling
until you make him a Jedi.
Don't level him up yet. Immediately talk to him again. If you are
significantly Dark Sided, you instantly lose INFLUENCE with him. There is no
way around this. Many of Disciple's Influencing dialogues are Light Sided,
but some aren't. Also, not all Dark Side options lose influence, either.
When this conversation ends, he'll watch your trial and comment on it the
next time you talk to him. Once you discover his secret, ("You look
familiar") which requires an Influence check (increased 2 times), (500 XP)
you get the chance to train him as a Jedi, which requires another Influence
check (increased 5 times). What you say once he agrees to train doesn't
matter, although he calls himself a "Sith" in the dialogue if you are Dark
Side, he'll still react as he always did. He can then level up to your level.
Also, you'll want to talk to him once you get back to your ship, he's in the
medbay to learn his Meditation. (500 XP, +10 Force Points, +INF+)
Note: His dialogue after viewing the holorecording has no Light/Dark
options or Influence.
Disciple....................................................................
. D1: Yes? Is something wrong? .
. - (if on the Ebon Hawk) What are you doing? > D-MED1 .
. - I had some questions. > D2 .
. D2: Of course. What did you wish to know? .
. - (If you learn he was a Jedi Trainee) Tell me of your training on .
. Dantooine. > D22 .
. - What are your problems with the Jedi? > D7 .
. - You look familiar to me. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to D2 .
. > SUCCEED, D18 .
. - What do you do again? > D17 .
. - What are you doing for the Republic? > D14 .
. - Tell me about the Republic. > D8 .
. - Can you tell me what you were doing on Dantooine again? > lines > D2 .
. - Do you know what happened to the Jedi? > D3 .
. - What do you know about Force bonding? > discussion on bonds > D2 .
. - Nothing. Never mind. > D-END1 .
. D3: No. It is something of a mystery why they would exile themselves as....
. - Why do you think people hate the Jedi? > D4 .
. - The Jedi never knew the common people - especially when the common .
. people were dying at the hands of Mandalorians. > D4 .
. D4: It is difficult sometimes for the Jedi to see such things, since ... .
. - LSP - But Jedi have protected the galaxy for centuries, they seek .
. peace, often through sacrifice. > D5 .
. - Do you hate the Jedi? > D6 .
. - DSP - You are right to hate Jedi weakness and hypocrisy. > D6 .
. D5: Not always. Jedi often fall. They caused much harm on Onderon, for... .
. - > D4 responses .
. D6: Hate? No, I do not hate them. They only raise questions without... .
. - What do you mean? > INFLUENCE Check > Fail, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, D7 .
. D7: [Influence: Success] The problem is my own, I fear. I harbor... .
. - LSP - I was one of those Jedi. I must accept part of that .
. responsibility. .
. - Do you blame the Jedi who turned - or the Council? .
. - DSP - And they were right to turn on the Order, for the Order's .
. cowardice and fear was to blame. .
. D8: I do not know if you are aware of how fragile the Republic is at... .
. - What would need to be done to save the Republic? > lines > D8 .
. - Why Telos and Onderon? > lines > D8 .
. - How did this happen? > D9 .
. D9: The Jedi Civil War brought much suffering to the galaxy, and the... .
. - What do you mean? > D10 .
. D10: The war was costly, and it shattered the Republic. In time... .
. - What worlds must be held? > line > D8 .
. - +INF+ LSP - Then we must do what we can to defend the Republic. .
. > line > D8 .
. - So what? Does the Republic deserve to be saved? > D11 .
. - -INF- DSP - Let the Republic burn for all I care. > D11 .
. D11: It is strange that someone who went to war against the... .
. - No, I simply believe the Republic doesn't deserve to survive. > D12 .
. - I think the worlds the Republic control deserve their freedom. > D13 .
. - -INF- DSP - The galaxy belongs to those who can hold it. Perhaps the .
. Sith are a better choice. .
. - What would need to be done to save the Republic? > lines > D8 .
. D12: Does that mean that all who would die if the Republic collapsed ... .
. - -INF- DSP - If they are that dependent on the Republic, then yes. .
. > END .
. - > other D11 responses .
. D13: It would not be freedom for many. There would be economic ... .
. - +INF+ LSP - I did not consider that - perhaps you are right. .
. > line > D8 .
. - -INF- DSP - The eventual independence would be worth it. > END .
. - -INF- DSP - Then let them die. > END .
. - -INF- DSP - I don't really care. > END .
. - What would need to be done to save the Republic? > lines > D8 .
. D14: (Different lines, sometimes, and 4th option not always available) .
. Not much remains of the Jedi - I am trying to find what little ... .
. - Why did they choose you? > D15 .
. - Have you had any luck? > D16 .
. - Do you know what happened to the Jedi? > D3 .
. - Why do you feel that is necessary? > D23 .
. D15: I know something of the Jedi. I have studied them for a good ... .
. - > back to D14 .
. D16: I do not think it is a matter of luck, or chance - only my own ... .
. - > back to D14 .
. D17: I am an historian and scientist working for the Republic... .
. - > back to D2 .
. D18: [Influence: Success] You are correct. I am afraid I have not been... .
. - But the Force... the path of the Jedi? You abandoned it? > D19 .
. - So you turned away from the Jedi - the Force. Because of me? > D19 .
. D19: It is possible to forget the Force, you know - if you not have ... .
. - I could train you to feel the Force again. > INFLUENCE Check .
. - +INF+ LSP - I am sorry that my leaving for war had such... .
. consequences on your future. > D20 .
. - It was not my intention to leave, but I had to. > D20 .
. - -INF- DSP - It is good you turned from the weakness and hypocrisy of .
. the Jedi - as I did. > D21 .
. - There is something else I wanted to ask. > D2 .
. - Never mind. I'll be going now. > END .
. D20: There is nothing to be done - and the past is the past. .
. - I could train you to feel the Force again. > INFLUENCE Check .
. - If you were once a Jedi, what are you doing for the Republic then? .
. > D14 .
. - So are you some sort of spy for the Senate? > D14 .
. D21: Perhaps. I still harbor doubts about the path I walked. .
. - > D20 responses .
. D22: Many Jedi went to go fight in the Mandalorian Wars, and few ... .
. - Do you blame the Jedi who left? Do you blame me? > back to questions .
. - +INF+ LSP - I am sorry if my leaving ruined your chances of becoming .
. a Jedi Knight > back to questions .
. - -INF- DSP - Well, I doubt you could have completed the training .
. anyway. > back to questions > back to questions .
. - -INF- DSP - I really could care less. > back to questions .
. D23: [Influence: Success] Because I fear that unless the Jedi ... .
. - Do you have a problem with the Jedi? > D24 .
. D24: No, not their lore, their histories - but their masters, their ... .
. - +INF+ LSP - The Republic has also been saved countless times by .
. these same Jedi, often through acts of sacrifice. > back to questions .
. - -INF- DSP - It is the truth - the foolishness and arrogance of the .
. Jedi has brought much harm to the galaxy. > back to questions .
. D-MED1: I try to treasure these moments before the next crisis begins. .
. - +INF+ Can you teach me to meditate? > 500 XP, increase Maximum Force .
. Points by +10 > back to questions .
. - -INF- I order you to tell me how to do the same. > increase Maximum .
. Force points > back to questions .
. D-END1: Forgive me, but there is something I must ask. In my study of ... .
. - And why do you want to discuss it? > extra line > back to D-END1 .
. - LSP - I left to protect the innocents on the Outer Rim. > D-END2 .
. - DSP - Battle called, and I answered. > D-END2 .
. - DSP - The Jedi held no truth for me - only war did. > D-END2 .
. - I don't want to talk about it. > END .
. D-END2: I see. And because you went to war they cast you out? .
. - Yes, that is what they told me at the trial. > D-END3 .
. - At first, I thought that was the sole reason. Now I am not so sure. .
. > D-END3 .
. - That was my belief, but recent discoveries seem to indicate there may .
. have been other causes. > D-END3 .
. - I don't want to talk about it. > END .
. D-END3: Do you have a record of this trial? .
. - [Lie] No, those records are lost, along with the others. > D-END5 .
. - Yes, the droid has a holo-recording of it. > D-END4 .
. - T3-M4 has a copy of it. > D-END4 .
. D-END4: Perhaps I shall examine it when I get the chance - with your ... .
. - +INF+ You are free to do so. > END .
. - +INF+ I trust you - go ahead. > END .
. - The record is personal. I would appreciate it if you would refrain .
. from seeing it. > END .
. - No, the records are not for you. > D-END5 .
. D-END5: That is a shame - I feel nuances are often found when one pays... .
. - Why do you want to know? > D-END6 .
. - Perhaps, but not today. > END .
. - Very well, I'll be going now. > END .
. D-END6: Well, it is not solely professional interest - I confess I ... .
. - I still do not want you looking at them. > END .
. - Then the records exist, and you may see them. > END .
. - In that case, feel free to examine them. > END .
. - I doubt such things will be illuminating. > END .
. - -INF- DSP - You waste your time on such things - such Jedi knowledge .
. will only weaken you. > END .
...........................................................................
Once you're done with Disciple, head into the room. You see three dead
mercenaries with lightsaber wounds. Interesting... Search them to find the
Datapad that links them with the outside mercenaries, and also mentions that
Vrook is probably captured by Azkul now. (250 XP) Head out, and continue
down the hallway. Kill the laigreks as you see them.
Note: You NEED to search the Mercenaries to get Vrook to appear in the
Crystal Cave, otherwise he won't be there.
Continue Looting
Follow this as it turns back, then to a Stuck Door. You can Lightsaber this
open, or skip it and enter the next, open door. There's nothing in the open
room, go through to the stuck room. There's a datapad in the center here that
tells you what to do in the next room, and some mines that guard it.
Recover the mines, and go up to the next room. Kill the Laigrek, then you
need to use the Computer Panel, and Overload terminal (1 spike). Set the
time and run away. 5 seconds is plenty. Wait in the next room for it to
blow, then return and enter the storage room for your prize: 7 containers of
shinies!
Return to the hallway to continue the circuit around the sublevel. The
passage leads around and up to another small circle room, with the second
salvager corpse, this one has the Will on him. Tamper with it (150 XP) to
put your own name on it. Or not for the same XP (although you get a better
reward later if you tamper with it).
Almost done. Continue on through the next doorway, and through the halls.
It turns again to another door-then-door setup. Predictably, the first door
is again locked and the second door is wide open. Security open the first
door for the XP, then charge over to the second open room. Kill any laigreks
you find, then up and open the locked door there. Open the last locked door,
and take a turn to the left to the hallways we just skipped.
Last room here, and it's mined. Recover the mine, unlock the door, and go
in. Three locked footlockers to search here. Take the booty and go up the
rest of the hallways to the fountain where we came in.
Oh, looks like someone came to meet us! Gerevick wants to steal your salvage,
and brought some Goons to back him up. This will only end in violence, and
what you say doesn't matter. Dark Siders can wipe them all out with a single
Force Lightning. (unless they Save) Kill them, and check for remains. Time
to go.
If you are doing the SIDEQUESTS: Suulru's Vaporators, The Will or The Two
Dead Bodies, you can now complete them. You can't do both The Will and the
Two Dead Bodies, as they requir that you either did or did not alter the
will.
Return to the Crystal Cave
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Time to go get Vrook. Go back to the Crystal Cave, and go up the left
passageway at the fork. Follow this up to the large room to the left. Here
you'll see mercenaries guarding Vrook in a Force Cage. They immediately talk
to you. Do these idiots not *see* your lightsaber? You can get 300 credits if
you help them upgrade their Force Cage.
Mercenary Captain...........................................................
. MC1: Halt, settler. This is a restricted area. .
. - LSP - I'm here to rescue the Jedi. > MC2 .
. - Why are you holding Master Vrook prisoner? > MC3 .
. - So the mercenaries are branching out into kidnapping now? > MC4 .
. - That Jedi belongs in his cage. > MC5 +INF+ with Visas .
. MC2: We are highly trained veterans. And you're just a settler with a... .
. - > MC4 .
. MC3: He's a Jedi Master? Well, the bounty is going to be that much ... .
. - > MC4 .
. MC4: I'm going to say this nice and simple for your little kath ... .
. - [Force Persuade] Open the cage. Let the Jedi out. > FAILS, COMBAT .
. - I don't want to fight, but I can't let you take Vrook to Nar Shaddaa. .
. > COMBAT .
. - Can we work out some sort of deal? > line > back to MC4 .
. - Defend yourself then. > COMBAT .
. - Can I ask you a question? > line > back to MC4 .
. - I'll just leave then. > line > END .
. MC5: I know that you settlers have a score to settle with Jedi. Trust... .
. - I can't let you take Vrook to Nar Shaddaa. > line > COMBAT .
. - (Requires an 8 Awareness, even though it doesn't show that) You know, .
. your cage won't hold him. He's an elite Jedi Master. > MC6 .
. - I'm afraid imprisonment isn't good enough. He must die. > MC8 .
. - Vrook betrayed me - I want him to suffer. > line > MC5 .
. - I'll let you go about your business then. I hope he enjoys Nar .
. Shaddaa. .
. MC6: He's a what? It doesn't matter if he's a master. That forcecage ... .
. - DSP - No, it won't. But if you let me make some alterations... > MC7 .
. - So certain are you? Enjoy the consequences. > MC5 .
. - DSP - That's the last insult I will take from you. > COMBAT .
. MC7: (The Exile modifies the Forcecage) I have no idea what you did... .
. - Now that Vrook is safely locked away, I can deal with you mercenary .
. scum. > COMBAT .
. - I'll be going now. > END .
. MC8: I can understand how you feel, but he's worth a lot less to us ... .
. - You have no choice in this matter. You're all dead. > COMBAT .
. - > other MC5 responses .
...........................................................................
Vrook gets out of his forcecage, and isn't happy to see you. If you answered
the previous lines in a Dark fashion, this will be going to combat soon.
There's really nothing in this dialogue, no Light/Dark options or Influences
for any nearby companions. Ask him for everything, then he'll leave. If you
have to fight him, he'll stun you and retreat. (500 XP)
Search the remains of the mercenaries, as well as some new metal boxes that
have appeared.
Before you leave the cave, if you are siding with the Mercenaries (Dark Side)
against Khoonda, take Handmaiden out. If you're siding with Khoonda and
against the Mercenaries, put in Handmaiden and take out Kreia. If you're
siding with Khoonda, strangely, you can gain influence with HK-47 so put him
in.
The Mercenary Attack
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Exit the cave, and you'll immediately meet with Azkul and his mercenaries
show up. Azkul wants to offer you a job. This is the final Light/Dark choice
for Dantooine, once chosen you can't go back on it, you become committed to
either the Light or Dark path. That said, there's no reason a Dark Sider
can't do the Light Path or a Light Sider to do the Dark Path. You just gain
Dark/Light points depending on which you choose.
If you side with Khoonda, tell him that you aren't interested, then "Die
mercenary scum!" for a DSP and +INF+ with HK-47. Saying "Okay, I'll help you"
is worth a DSP, while [lie] saying the same is not, and won't make the
mercenaries hostile. The [lie] option allows you to delay and decide who to
help later.
Note: Kreia looks like she would gain Influence here, but she doesn't.
Now, go back to Khoonda and talk to the Administrator to get the Security
Key. If you had Berun replace Zherron, she puts him back in charge. Talk to
Zherron to find out what you can do. He lists off a few things, recruit
people into the militia, and repair a few things around the base.
Note: Although you can go back after completing a few of the tasks and ask
for a reward, you won't get one.
There are a number of things we are told to do to affect the outcome. It
doesn't matter what you do. Seriously. Do none of them. Do all of them.
Do them all in favor of the wrong side. Whichever side you go with in the end
will win regardless.
Here's what you can do:
Fix/Disable the Gun Turrets - In the security room near Zherron's militia
room, use the console (base: 2 spikes) to change the turret settings. It
doesn't help to have the guns target friendlies, if you're siding with
the Mercenaries, but you don't get XP for simply Deactivating them.
Either fix them to only fire on enemies/friendlies (base: 10 spikes), or
disable them altogether (base: 2 spikes). (320 XP for changing targets,
XP scales with level)
Heal the Soldiers - Located in the upper hallway. Either fix the Droid
(see below) or use a dialogue on each soldier, and use a [Treat Injury]
on them to get a LSP. You can still do the below fix the droid even if
you heal them all.
Fix the Medical Droid - Located in the upper hallway. Repair it (base: 6
parts). Set to either heal the Milita soldiers, or incapacitate
them (cost 1 Spike). (320 XP & LSP for healing, 640 XP & DSP for
incapacitating, XP scales with level)
Fix the Sentry Droids - At the end of the upper hallway. Do this for either
side, but then if you are going for the Mercenaries, reprogram the droids
to get them to switch sides. (base: 1 part to activate, then base: 4,4,5
for each of its 3 systems, 240 XP each system for 720 XP total, XP scales
with level) You reprogram the droids all at once using the Console in the
room. Slice it (base: 2 spikes) and reprogram it to "defend hostiles",
if you want them to work for the mercenaries (base: 10 spikes) (320 XP,
scales with level). The broken droids in this room also have great droid
treasures. The droid in the corner also has Akkere's Hydrospanner.
Something to take care of later...
Open/Seal the Storage Room Door Outside - There is a small door facing the
docks that you can either open (then go inside for some loot), or seal
the door forever (and losing the loot). (1 Repair part to get 340 XP for
sealing it, 0 Spikes to get 100 XP for opening it) The treasure is
worth more than 240 XP, if you're wondering.
Recruit More Soldiers for the Militia - This is only done if you are
working for Khoonda. The people you can recruit are:
- Suulru - right inside Khoonda
- Dillan - just outside Khoonda
- Jorran - Salvager Camp, unless you killed him
- Akkere - just outside Khoonda, he will also join if you buy his
Thorium Charges (1000 credits lost), which are useful on
Dxun. (for more information, see below)
You get 100 XP for each person recruited.
Plant More / Recover the Mines - When planting new mines, it doesn't matter
the quality, or the placement, so long as it's close. Once you have
enough mines, four, the game tells you that is enough. There are two
minefields one on each side of Khoonda. You get XP for each mine removed,
but none for planting them.
So, to get the most out of this, regardless of what side you pick, do this:
- Recover the Mines (XP for each mine)
- Unlock the Door (treasures inside)
- Fix the Medical Droid, then Incapacitate the patients (DSP, & more XP)
or if you must, have it Heal them for less XP and a LSP.
- Repair the Droids, and change their Programming
- Recruit Dillan, Jorran and Akkere (then show him the hydrospanner and
kill him to get your 1000 credits back)
- Reprogram the Turrets for either side.
Go outside and talk to Akkere about the Hydrospanner. If you have G0-T0, you
can gain +INF+ with him by trying to turn Akkere in then killing him.
(100 XP) You get a DSP only if you say "I don't care, I'm turning you in
anyway." He's one of the "innocents" that you can murder in this game, so you
will lose -INF- with T3, Bao-Dur, Handmaiden or Disciple if you kill him.
Also, by killing him, you can get your 1000 credits back. You can also listen
to his story, and not turn him in (250 XP, LSP) or even give him 500 credits
to help him out (250 XP, LSP, more than the other option), or blackmail him
for 500 credits (DSP). Kreia will freak out if you do the Light Path here,
and you lose -INF- no matter what you say to her. Those who like compassion,
Bao-Dur, T3, Disciple and Handmaiden will gain +INF+ if you help him out.
Tip: SAVE HERE! Then, after getting your extra Lightsaber from Vrook,
if you don't like it (such as getting a Short Lightsaber) you can
reload. Also if you're on the side of the mercenaries, you must fight
Vrook, and he's difficult.
Once that's done, go back to Azkul/Terena and tell them that you are ready
to proceed. Assuming you did these things, you will only have to fight one
battle. Dark Siders get to fight a one-on-one battle with Vrook (a tough
fight if this is your first planet, but not impossible, see below) or a
general battle with Azkul's forces.
Tip: You can mine the Khoonda interior if you want. Just inside the first
room for the battle with Vrook, and in the middle hallway in front of
the Administrator's room for Azkul.
Light Side, Siding with Khoonda
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You will be fighting the much easier battle against Azkul and his mercenary
goons. When he talks to you, you can switch sides by saying that "she means
nothing to me." He walks by you and kills the administrator. Then it works
like the Dark Sided option (see below). You can even ask why he should let
you by, to get him to bribe you (DSP) 1000 or 2000 credits. (This is far,
far fewer than you would have gotten had you sided with him in the first
place)
You start out fighting alone, but you can enter the party selection screen
and add party members once you get control.
You can't Force Persuade him, and you can't talk him out of it. This boils
down to basically a blaster fight. Either Dopak switches sides, for some
reason, or Vrook returns. (I think that Dopak joins your side if you gave him
the message from Zharron) Use Energy Resistance/Shields, and work on the
leader. (1000 XP for starting battle) Get rid of all the Mercs to win.
The administrator will offer you a 4000 credit reward. Taking it is Neutral,
asking for more is worth a DSP, and refusing it is worth a 3xLSP. Though,
saying that you want a statue is worth nothing.
After the battle, Vrook will answer any of your questions, then teaches you
his Force Stance (you can learn this on the Dark path as well), then answer
any questions you want, before leaving. He then gives you a random Lightsaber
(if you've built one already), then sends you on your way. (750 XP)
Be sure to double back inside to search Azkul's remains.
Dark Side, Siding with the Mercenaries
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If you're fighting Vrook (the line "you've lived too long" gives you a DSP),
he is fairly tough for a 15th level character. I wouldn't even take him on
without having first gotten your Prestige Class, which gives you a free
level. Anyway, if you fight him, you instantly get an extra Lightsaber (the
type is random) and 550 XP.
Fighting Vrook at this point can be done with some minor amounts of strategy.
First, use Energy Shields, while running away. Use your party members (they
won't help you) as posts, and make a figure 8 around the place. You can also
run behind the trees and desk along the wall. When you get any amount of
distance between yourself and Vrook use an item or power that can help you.
Ideally if you can get him to stop chasing you (not impossible, you just have
to get him stuck in a corner then move away faster than he can follow, such
as when he has to stop for a grenade attack or force power). Of course, if
you're a straight up Guardian with all STR and CON, this shouldn't be too
tough. And if you're here after hitting an earlier planet, this shouldn't be
too tough. Another thing to try: Switch to Contention (Lightsaber Style).
Then just hit him with Flurries and you're done.
If you manage to shake him loose, you can set mines, then when he follows you
again, get him into the minefield for damage.
Tip: You can save in battles if you need to.
When you get him halfway, Kreia will bring up a dialogue to teach you his
fighting style. Charge Vrook again. Once he's dead, you absorb his life
force (+25 Bonus to Force Points).
Once that is over, Azkul offers you a reward. You could take it, but you can
also [Persuade - 19 REQ] him to increase it 50% to 12,000 credits. If you
have the force power Affect Mind, you get a [Force Persuade] option that
doesn't work, however, with Dominate Mind, you can use that [Force Persuade]
option to increase your reward to 12,000 credits. Otherwise you just have to
take the 8000 credits. (750 XP, Random Lightsaber Part) He goes off and kills
Terena.
And that's that for Dantooine.
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8. Nar Shaddaa :NRSHD:
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The Smuggler's Moon, the Gaping Hole of Nal Hutta, um, this stinkhole.
After listening to Atton's colorful comments about this place, and asking
whatever questions you want of him, and he lands the ship in the Refugee
Sector. Once you land you have to watch a cutscene of Goto planning the
capture of Jedi. This introduces both G0-T0, the droid behind Goto, and
Hanharr the Wookiee, both who can join you (but Hanharr only if you are
Dark Side). You also see the bounty hunters of Nar Shaddaa, whom you will be
fighting later.
Once actually on the planet, Atton bugs you again, and you can once again
ask questions about your situation. Let's move out!
Once you get past your own companions, a Toydarian, Quello, approaches and
wants you to get off his landing pad. You can't Force Persuade him (which
you'd know if you've seen Ep1), but you can [Persuade/Lie] The Exchance told
me I could land here (DSP), and you can follow that up with a threat to kill
him for another DSP. Failing that, you can tell him his landing pad is
trash or pay him 50 credits and he'll leave. But he tells you that someone
else will be landing here, and you'll have to deal with them at that time.
You will be able to buy the HK Droid Processor from Kodin, whom you can find
by turning left when you get out of the first hallway.
To build our lightsaber (if you haven't already) we need just two more parts,
the Lens and a Color Crystal. You can buy the Crystal from Geeda or Oondar,
and can get the lens in the SIDEQUEST: Dance for Vogga.
To train Atton as a Jedi, head to the Refugee Sector (see SIDEQUEST: Atton's
Terrible Secret below).
Finally we can move. Choose your party.
Companions with Influence Checks (just a heads up, more information below):
Atton (Reparing the Airspeeder, the Sick Man)
Bao-Dur (The Sick Man, Repairing the Airspeeder)
Kreia (The Sick Man, Guy Getting Mugged, Guy Asks for Credits)
T3 (Droid Merchant)
Visas
Nar Shaddaa Main Area
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W - Workbench
-----. K - Kovin
| | TT - Tien Tubb
| |.-----. To the B - Borna Lyn (Swoop Den)
|R M d B | Docks L - Lupo
`-----| L |---. | | M - Modo (Swoop Clerk)
.---. |__ d_ | | | .--. R - Racing Droid
/ |d' | | | | |G | O - Oondar
/ Ebon ------------. | |.-' `--' `--' `-. G - Geeda
| Hawk | | -'K '-. d - door
/----------. | `--| .---------. .-' WD - Weapon Deal
.___./ |------| --.---| | | `-._
| TT | d | Pit | ,._ To Cantina/
----| |d-----| | | |_ Pazaak Den
|W | d `---------' O |
| d | .--d|
|-----|-| |-|-- .-. .----. | | ---|
- =__| | | |__d |
| | | WD |
| | ------
To the
Refugee Sector
The First Refugee
Be prepared for lots of muggings in this area. Forward. Within moments, you
find a couple aliens, hassling a human refugee. Pretty easy Light/Dark
option. You can talk to the Thugs, if you want, to learn that a good way to
meet the Exchange is to kill its employees (them). Saying "Just a Spectator"
will get you a DSP. Saying "I won't let you hurt this man" gives an LSP.
Huh, interesting. This goes to battle. Light Side will fight them off to help
the Refugee, then talk to him ask why they were doing this to him, and then
tell him that you were glad to help. (LSP) Dark Side can still save him, but
then say he owes you, or threaten to cripple him (DSP). (You can even mix the
two, say that he owes you then tell him that he can go and you were glad to
help, but it's more Dark than Light)
Goal for Nar Shaddaa
Now we know our goal (The Exchange) and how to do it (Mess or Help their
Operations). Once you have done enough to/for the Exchange, you'll be offered
a meeting with their leader to get to the bottom of this whole "Jedi Bounty"
business. Along the way you'll also pick up a new companion, Mira or Hanharr
(Light or Dark Side) and find the next Jedi Master. This can be a tricky
thing, so I would create a save here and DON'T SAVE OVER IT until you meet
with the Exchange. Should all things fail later, you can always go back and
try it again. This isn't likely, and I've never had problems with it, but
better safe than sorry.
To Annoy the Exchange: To Gain Influence with the Exchange:
- Help Lootra Find His Wife - Convince Lootra to join the Exchange
- Fix the Freighter Order for Fassa - Destroy the Swoop Droid
- Agree to help Vogga the Hutt - Convince the Thugs to sell the man
- Kill Saquesh into slavery
- Convince Nadaa to sell herself to
the Exchange
- Convince the Refugees to give up
- Convince the sick man to kill
himself
The Second Refugee
Just ahead, a man will automatically talk to you. He wants credits, and
you can either give it (LSP) or chase him away (DSP). Either way, no good
comes from it. Regardless of what you did, Kreia will talk to you (either in
party or telepathically) to comment on what you did. He either gets mugged
and the new credits stolen, or he becomes a jerk and starts mugging people
himself. What you say to her doesn't matter until the VERY end, when you can
say either: (only if you gave 5 credits)
> +INF+ I... will consider what you have said.
OR
> +INF+ There is wisdom in what you say. Perhaps I shall not be so quick to
offer aid in the future.
The other options lead to influence decreases.
The Third Refugee
The last guy in this very small area is just standing to the side. You need
to give him some credits to get him to talk to you. Ask for information,
then reveal that you are a Jedi. If you aren't showing signs of Dark Side,
he'll believe you, and you can say one of these lines:
- 2xLSP - If I can, I will help everyone I can.
- LSP - I will do what I can, but that may not be enough.
- DSP - I am not here to help anyone.
Beyond that he just has some minor amounts of information. After you leave,
you see Mira (though you don't know her at the moment) talk to him. Even if
he says that he will listen for more information for you, he never says
anything more, ever again. Bum. Talk to him now, to avoid a bug later. (If
you never talk to him until much later, then talk to him you actually trigger
a Mira bug that messes her up) Or just never ever talk to him.
The Ebon Hawk, Stolen?
Ahead and to the right, going around the central pit to the lower end of
this area. A guy here, Ratrin Vek, tells you that you have his ship. Ask
him for proof that the ship is his, and he reveals information about the
ship (such as Secret Compartments) that only an owner would know. If you
give him the ship, say either:
- LSP - No, if the ship is yours, then you deserve it back.
- LSP - I'd rather be stuck here with a clean conscience.
Or you can refuse to give it back. There is only one Dark option here:
- DSP - If you don't get out of my way, you'll be dead.
If you learned about the hidden compartments from Ratrin, go back to the
Ebon Hawk (watch any companion exchanges), go to Visas's Cabin (the starboard
side), and at the end bottom bunk you'll find a Hidden Compartment with some
treasures. Pretty decent. (The other hidden compartment he mentions was
discovered in KotOR1 by Revan) No, you didn't just give up your ship. You'll
see what happens to him later.
Keep going around the pit in the center, and when you get to the side with
the Red Door (which we aren't taking yet, but leads to the Cantina/Pazaak
Den), Kreia will talk to you, or send you a vision and talk to you. She is
telling you that you can feel the pulse of the Force in Nar Shaddaa. It
does not matter how you reply to her. For this you get +6 to Force Points.
The Fourth Refugee
Now go all the way around the pit to find the last of these guys who get
hassled by Exchange Thugs. He immediately sees you and tells the Thugs that
you have their money. What a nice guy, getting their attention for us so
we can save ourselves the trouble. Nice, nice guy. Lots of options here:
- [Force Persuade] There's no need for this, go on your way.
- DSP - [Force Persuade] You two, give me all your credits, then go jump
into the central pit.
- LSP - [Persuade/Lie] I work for the Exchange, and this man is under my
protection.
- LSP - [Persuade] This man is under my protection. Leave now.
- I don't have the money.
- This man's lying - I don't know him, and I don't have his credits.
- How much does he owe?
- Leave this man alone.
- You two better back off before you're kissing duracrete.
- The next one of you threatens me, dies.
You can either Force Persuade them to go away (one way or another), put him
under your protection (if you make your Persuade, you don't need to Lie),
get into a fight, or offer to pay his debt. Although they ask for 500, you
can get away with 100. Paying his debt is worth a LSP. The Darkest of the
Dark options would be to follow this path:
Dark Path > This man's lying - I don't know him, and I don't have his
credits.
> DSP > Pay these thugs what you owe them, or I'll kill you.
> DSP > You could probably sell him into slavery and get the
money you need. (this also gives you a tiny bit of an increased
standing with the Exchange)
If you kill the thugs with Force Persuade, Rutum runs away. If you simply
Persuade or Force Persuade them away (250 XP), you can then ask for more
information, or kill him for a DSP. Various party members will react to this
scene: Bao-Dur, Atton, Visas and Handmaiden. Killing him brings no reactions.
If you save him in any way, you get a good reaction, even if you used Force
Persuade to make them jump into the pit.
Killing the thugs, making them jump off the ledge, or making them go away
has no effect on your standing with the Exchange.
We're finally done with the Refugee/Thug events that we can't avoid. There
are quite a number of things that can be done in this area, listed in the
SIDEQUESTS below. Once you've done these, there are two more areas to visit,
listed below SIDEQUESTS (the Cantina/Pazaak den are listed here). They
also have SIDEQUESTS, but those are listed there. There will be two upcoming
events. First, you will have to liberate your ship from the Red Crescent
slavers (covered in this section of SIDEQUESTS) and Second, you will get a
call from the Exchange for a meeting in the Jekk'Jekk Tarr. This is listed
last.
SIDEQUEST: Get the Old Droid Back
Head over to the "Swoop Garage" (despite that, it never has anything to
do with Swoops... Ever.) in the lower left of the map, near where you
fought the first gang of Thugs. Enter. There are some Metal Boxes around
that you can search, as well as a Workbench. You'll also find the
Airspeeder Navigation Interface, which is used later for the Rebuild the
Airspeeder quest in the Refugee Area (at least, if you get there before
it's too late).
When you go up to the second part of this place, a protocol droid will
automatically talk to you. Ask about him being the 32nd model, then end
the conversation. Go over and talk to Tienn Tubb, the Sullustan mechanic
here. Although you can change your ship's signature later, you can't do
that right now.
When you try to leave, TT-32 asks you to go to get the old droid, number
31 from a droid merchant. There are some nifty new Droid Shield plans on
that droid, and TT-32 wants them back. Agree to help. Be sure to ask for
a reward on this one, you'll want it.
Go out, and up, to find the droid merchant, Kodin. You can see (and
interact with ) IT-31 right now, if you want. If you have T3 in your party,
Kodin will try to buy him from you (see SIDEQUEST: Sell T3 below), but
that's not why we're here. Ask him about Astromech Droids, and then get
the option to ask to buy the droid. He wants 500 credits for it, but with
a Persuade you can knock it to 300 (or 150 if your Persuade is good).
[Awareness] also works. Buy the droid. (250 XP) You could also tell him to
just give you the droid, and with a good Persuade, he will. Without a good
Persuade, you have to kill him (DSP) to get it. Killing him seems to have
no effect on your standing with the Exchange. Although threatening to kill
him and Persuading him to give it to you seems to have a small effect on
it.
You could also just buy the memory module, killing the Droid. Kodin will
want 250 credits for this, but it can be Persuaded down, or even Repaired
down to 100 credits. Bao-Dur will also tell you that it's worth 100 and
save you the credits if you don't have the skill. If you tear out the
Memory, you lose -INF- with T3, whether he's around or not.
Now talk to the droid, and tell him to go back to the garage. Finally go
back to TT-32 and either tell him you succeeded, or give him the Memory.
You can pester him further for an extra reward (Parts), but T3 will lose
-INF-. You could also tell TT-32 that you have a copy of the designs, and
follow that through to get a "discount" on items here. Only problem is
there are no items sold here. (1250 XP)
SIDEQUEST: Sell T3 to Kodin
Refusing to sell T3 to Kodin gets you nothing, T3 isn't that impressed.
But selling him is a different matter. When you talk to Kodin and offer to
sell T3 for 500 credits (a good persuade to get 750, a better Persuade to
get 1000). Or you can trade T3 for IT-31 to complete the above SIDEQUEST,
but only if you've already talked to him about it. You get whatever money
you negotiated, a DSP, and lose -INF- with T3.
You can't buy him back, but he will return later on his own to save you.
He's more loyal than you, apparently.
SIDEQUEST: Interrupt the Exchange Deal
In the room in the bottom right of this area is a weapon/spice/slave deal
going down. When you enter, it is interpretted as an ambush, and everyone
goes hostile. Kill 'em all. Search for remains, then clear out the
containers in here.
This has a minor effect on your standing with the Exchange.
SIDEQUEST: Oondar Vs. Geeda, the Merchant Wars
I'll just say it up front. Always side with Geeda. Light Side or not, the
rewards in the end are better. Always side with Geeda.
Note: Oondar will ONLY offer this quest the first time you talk to him.
If you don't take it then, you can't get it.
Just outside the room with the weapons deal that we broke up, is the
merchant Oondar, who wants you to get rid of his competition, Geeda, who
is located near the top right of this area. Talk to Oondar first, ask about
his lack of customers. He complains about a "schutta" (Geeda, but he
doesn't name her) ruining his business. If you offer to kill her you get a
DSP. Whether you offer that or to compromise with her, agree to help him
out, and he offers you a discount on his items (about 10% off). There are
three main ways to handle this:
Dark Path
Go talk to Geeda, and immediately tell her to take a hike. (250 XP, DSP)
Return to Oondar to clear this quest.
Neutral Path
Go up, talk to Geeda, listen to her side, agree to her counter offer then
go back to Oondar to tell him about that. Then agree to his demand to take
care of it. Finally go tell her to get out of here. (If you listen to
her at all, you have to talk to Oondar again, then her again) You get 250
XP for telling her to take a hike. Return to Oondar to finish the deal.
You get access to his better items.
Light Side
Go up and talk to Geeda, who counters with the same offer. Accept. Now
back to Oondar and he threatens to tell the Exchange if you don't follow
through with your deal. Hmm. Since we're not siding with him, say that you
aren't afraid of the Exchange, and that he can eve give them a full
description of you if he wants. Back to Geeda and tell her what Oondar has
done now, then side with her (LSP). She tells you that to improve her shop,
you need to get her some new trade routes, notably to Onderon (Dxun) or to
Dantooine. Or both. And as long as you don't tell Oondar about this, you
can still access his shop. If you do go to Oondar and tell him you sided
with her, you get 250 XP and LSP, but then he vanishes.
Note: Be sure to return here after dealing with those worlds. She adds
new items to her shop for each planet you clear.
Although her inventory isn't great now, she's technically the best
merchant in the game once you've upgraded the shop.
Oondar's threat to tell the Exchange seems to be a boast, it had
no discernable effect on my Standing with the Exchange.
You get 1000 XP when you clear a planet for trade with Geeda.
SIDEQUEST: Bet on the Swoop Races... Or Not
If you don't mind gaining a Dark Side Point (DSP), have the force power
Affect Mind and have 1000 credits, you can double it. Enter the swoop
bar at the top left of the map. Talk to the owner, Lupo and ask to place a
bet on yourself. Amount: 1000 credits. The owner will try, but fail to get
your bet entered. Talk to him again, for a bit. Then use [Force Persuade]
to tell him that he hasn't given you your money back yet. You get 1000
credits and a DSP.
Note: Technically this works with smaller amounts, but since you can do
it once, it is best to maximize your earings.
SIDEQUEST: Destroy the Ultimate Swoop Droid
Head over to the Swoop bar at the top left of this area and go on in.
You have to watch the owner talk to a drunk Twi'lek passed out on the
floor here. Don't bother talking to him, instead find Borna Lys at the
wall.
Borna tells you not to race your Swoop here because there is an unbeatable
droid here. Follow this up until you hear her plan to get rid of the
stinking droid. Ask for the codes. You have to have one of the following
to get the codes:
- [Computer] I can reprogram the computer behavior core with a process
delay without him realizing it.
- [Computer] I could just pry open the control cluster and cut a few
wires.
- [Repair] Let me rewire a secondary motivator, and the sabotage will be
undetectable.
- Give me a hydrospanner, and I'll smash its motivators. (still checks
your Repair skill)
- [Persuade] We both stand to make a profit here, we do not need squabble
over the scraps Lupo leaves.
- [Force Persuade] You will give me the codes.
Whatever you do, get the codes, and go into the next room. Ignore the
guy behind the counter, and head straight for the droid. Use the small
computer console next to the droid.
With an Awareness you can find an odd transmission on the droid, but that
doesn't seem to matter. Use either Computer or Repair to disable the
droid. If you try and fail, Bao-Dur (if you did Repair) or T3 (if you did
Computer) can do it for you. The droid goes boom.
Modo, the guy from behind the counter, comes over to investigate the
explosion.
- DSP - [Lie] I don't know. I came running when I heard the explosion.
- [Persuade] Your droid seems to have... expired.
- [Force Persuade] You saw nothing.
Say whatever, he'll believe anything. Lupo enters to discover his droid is
gone. Tell him to sell his bar to Borna Lys, and he runs off to do so.
Be sure to check the fallen racer droid for some Remains, and the room in
general for a couple metal boxes. Head back to Borna Lys to get your
reward. (2000 Credits) Doing this has no effect on your standing with the
Exchange.
You can race now if you want, if you set the record, you get 500 credits.
You can then [Force Persuade] to increase your winnings, an extra 1750
credits and a DSP.
Note: As always, you can cheat to win in second. Wander left and aim for
the wall. Hit the WHITE button just before you hit, then forfeit.
You'll hit the wall, then exit the race and have won.
SIDEQUEST: Clear the Pazaak Den
To get into the Pazaak den, from the main area, enter the big red doors
at the right of this area. Then you go over to the door with the guard to
the left, and either buy the password from Kaalah-Nah to get in (15
credits), or just use [Force Persuade] to have him let you in. It doesn't
change anything. Don't worry about Twik'Gar outside the Den unless you plan
on doing a Dark Side option inside. If you are doing Dark, talk to Twik'Gar
to learn he wants a message passed on.
There are going to be four total Pazaak players in here. The malfunctioning
droid, the Twi-lek woman, the Duros and eventually The Champ. The only one
you have to play is The Champ, all the others have a way around them.
However, if you use the way around, you won't get any Credits for defeating
them. Each player must be defeated three times. Once all are defeated, you
get to play the Champ, who automatically enters to challenge you. Once you
beat the Champ, you get the +1T card.
If you're playing Pazaak here, not much has changed since the first game,
and if you played back in Telos, you should be good to go. You can buy
new cards from Dahnis. Every wager will be at 100 credits, until you get to
the Champ, then wagers are 500 credits.
So, either talk to each of them, and defeat them three times, or take the
shortcut:
S4-C8 is a malfunctioning Droid. Repair her to get her to stop the Pazaak
desire. After the first Repair option, you can get an Awareness option
to check for oddities, which if successful, gives you the second of
the mysterious droid signals (the first was in the Swoop Den). You have
to Repair, then Repair or Computer again.
Dahnis is the female Twi'lek player. Male characters always win. Females
can skip her by simply having Atton, Bao-Dur or Disciple in your party
and they will defeat her.
Geredi is the Duros in the far corner. After learning about him from
Twik'Gar, tell him that some attractive Twi'leg dancers are waiting for
him outside. He falls for that a little too easily. (DSP) Or you can
Force Persuade him to go out. (DSP)
Then, defeat the Champ! If you actually played Geredi, then The Champ is
actually easier to beat than him. Beat the Champ 3 times and get his card.
Note: You don't have to play The Champ either. Ask him who he is, then
you can [Force Persuade] him to lose. Or ask him if winning is
still fun, and then [Persuade] him to lose.
Note: Yes, it's a nice card. However, you just played or removed the
majority of the Pazaak players in the game! Who are you going to
use this card on?
SIDEQUEST: Dance for Vogga the Hutt
Also in the "Entertainment District" is the Cantina. Inside a thuggish
guy is auditioning new women to be dancers for Vogga the Hutt. Well, we
want to do this, but not at this moment. First, we need to discover how to
get into Vogga's secret vault.
Note: If you do this before getting the Juma Juice, just keep whomever
danced in the Dancer's costume, talk to Vogga and ask to dance
again.
First, get a person with Stealth and a Stealth enabled belt. Use that to
sneak up on the Trandoshian's ("Vogga's Thugs") in the cantina. They
mention that Vogga only wants to see people who ask about Goto. Good to
know. (100 XP) Now, go up to the Docks area, and then into the side hallway
into the Flophouse.
In the very first door, we need to Stealth in and listen to their
conversation to learn that the Kath hounds in Vogga's lair will fall asleep
if given Juma juice. (100 XP) Make sure Handmaiden or Mira is in your
party, if you're male. Also make sure someone can open a lock. If you're
female you can dance yourself. Back to the Cantina. Talk to the bartender
and get some Juma juice. He wants 100 credits for it. You can [Force
Persuade] for free, or Persuade for free or a reduced fare, if you're good
enough. There's no Light/Dark for Force Persuade.
Now talk to the auditioner, Twi'lek Domo. He hates the girls dancing for
him, and wants your help to find someone new, a STAR! Volunteer yourself
(if you're female) or Handmaiden/Mira. (Visas refuses) You don't have to
be reassuring to your party member who ... puts on the costume. Time to
dance! (300 credits, 50 XP)
Note: If you are Dark Sided, and significantly so, he won't want to take
you. You can always [Force Persuade] or [Persuade] him to your
way of thinking. Once you get past the head, you don't look too
bad... a little grey, maybe.
The dance puts Vogga to sleep. Once you get control, go towards the little
water dish in the corner near the door and use it. Pour in the Juma Juice,
wait, then Unlock and enter the vault. (The game actually places you back
outside Vogga's room, make sure you're opening the right door, you want
the Security Door, not Low Security Door) (50 XP) Open the metal box to get
Lightsaber Focusing Lens Fixture (or a random Lightsaber, if you already
built one)
Which means that if you already acquired a color crystal from Geeda or
Oondar, you can talk to Bao-Dur and build your lightsaber. (1500 XP for
building your lightsaber)
Nar Shaddaa Docks Area
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If you've been following the walkthrough line by line, this is where you'll
be, in Vogga's complex in the Docks area. Admire your new Bronze Bikini
(unless you're on the Dark Side, at which point it looks... less than
appearling).
There's nothing that absolutely MUST be done in this area right now, but
quite a number of things that CAN be done anyway. If you want to get fuel
for Telos later, go wake up Vogga the Hutt and talk about Goto. If you
agree to help him deal with Goto, then it makes the Exchange less likely to
like you. Whatever, he has fuel. It doesn't really matter how you approach
it, all paths are about the same. (50 XP)
Explore around Vogga's place to find a Warehouse we can't enter (yet) and a
Bith who is also looking for a new fuel source for Telos. If you're feeling
Dark Sided, you can kill him. Curiously, none of the companions react if
you kill him. Say this:
Dark Path > What are you doing here?
> What's your interest in this?
> I was also trying to find a fuel source for Citadel Station.
> It's not safe to compete with me.
> Let me tell you something - you won't be getting much farther.
Goodbye. > COMBAT (DSP)
You should see some cutscenes if you wander this area, as the bounty hunters
close in on you. This also raises the awareness of you at the Exchange. Only
sidequests to do here, before we move on to the Refugee area.
SIDEQUEST: Reorder the Ships for Fassa
Talk to Fassa in the center of this area. You can ask about some things,
but only one thing goes anywhere. If you are friendly with the Exchange
you'll need an Awareness to get anywhere, otherwise follow this path.
> Who do you work for?
> How is business these days?
> Is there anything I can do to help prevent hijackings?
> What's wrong with the pylons?
> I'll try to help
Now, you need to restore power to one pylon by using the nearby Pylon
Power Console. Toggle number 2, it's closest. With a good Computer Use
you can optimize the power relays to activate all three pylons at once.
(250 XP) Do NOT use the power cell from Lassavou, you use that on the
Airspeeder later. Log out.
Go up to Pylon 2, use the console, and enter them in this order:
1st - Silver Zephyr
2nd - Alakandor
3rd - Toorna's Profits
Doing this is worth 500 XP, and changes your Standing with the Exchange
somewhat. Return to Fassa for your reward. (Random Item, based on your
level)
SIDEQUEST: Mandalorians in the Flophouse
There are some Mandalorians in the flophouse (the door near Fassa leads to
a series of rooms, colorfully called the flophouse). The room closest to
the entrance on the side has them. Talk to them with Mandalore to recruit
them.
SIDEQUEST: Find the Captain for the Lunar Shadow
In the room next to the Mandalorian room, are some aliens who can't get
to their captain in the Jekk'Jekk Tarr. That place is poisonous for them.
You too. Find a Breath Mask, go inside, and retrieve the captain. He's
in the Weequay room, named Lunar Shadow Captain. Convince him to return,
then return to the aliens to get your reward.
Of course, you could just kill them and take their things. That would be
very Dark Sided of you. (250 XP) You don't actually get a DSP for this,
but your companions will react to it, so you lose INFLUENCE with those
who don't like to murder innocents, and gain with those who do.
You can steal their things from the Metal Box in the back of their room
just fine.
You find the Lunar Shadow Captain in the "left" room of the Jekk'Jekk Tarr.
You need a Breath Mask (or to wait until later, see the "Meeting with the
Exchange" below) to get in and survive. Persuade him to go back for
1500 XP.
SIDEQUEST: An Errand for a Bith
The Bith at the corner room in the flophouse is checking for a certain
frequency that he can't get out of his head. After a very long pointless
dialogue about this, he finally offers you a... COURIER JOB. Take it. He
wants you to meet up with a Twi'let on Pylon 3. (500 credits)
Head over to Pylon 3, and search the Twi'lek corpse. The door will lock,
and the Droid here will attack you. Also, if you haven't already, search
the Plasteel Container here for the Maneuvering Flaps (for the Airspeeder
SIDEQUEST, see below).
Back to the Bith, except he's dead, gone, and left only his arm with a
datapad. Seems that his droid turned on him. That's a common thread between
your event and his. Droids. That's where this quest ends, unless you have
G0-T0 who explains that the signal was his, and he used it to control his
droids.
SIDEQUEST: Help Lasavvou and Get His Power Cell
In the first room after the hallway turns in the flophouse, we find the
Ithorian Lasavvou. If you're evil (and stupid) you can claim to be from
the Dock Authority and he'll give you 200 credits, if you end there he'll
never talk to you again. If you got credits, then you can also say that
you're there for his things, and fight/kill him. (DSP) If you do either
of these you can't get the Power Cell, which is more valuable.
But if you're not evil, you can listen to his problem and help him. Deny
being from the docking authority, and listen. His ship is impounded until
he can come up with some credits, but all he has are Power Cells.
Note: If you got the quest from the refugee mother to get her family
off planet, you can have Lasavvou take her with him when he leaves.
Ask for a power cell as a reward for helping him.
Go out and talk to Fassa about Lasavvou. If you helped Fassa out with the
Pylons (see above), then he'll do this for you right away. If you didn't
help Fassa earlier, you can arrange for Lasavvou to give him a power cell
in exchange (don't worry, you still get one yourself). Or you can just pay
the 600 credits owed. Force Persuade won't work here.
Back to Lasavvou to deliver the good news and get your Cryogenic Power
Cell (used to repair the Airspeeder). (500 XP)
SIDEQUEST: Help Lootra Find His Wife
In the second to last room in the flophouse is Lootra, a man who can't
find his wife. Now, you could just kill him ("you picked the wrong room to
die in") to get your DSP, an Influence reaction with those party members
who react to such things (such as Atton, Handmaiden, HK-47, Kreia, Bao-Dur)
and a random Lightsaber part.
Assuming you're less violent, talk to him. He tells you that he has nearly
been forced to take a job with the Exchange because he can't find his wife.
Now, if you want to gain favor with the Exchange, you can [Persuade] him
to join (always succeeds) the Exchange. To increase your favor with the
Exchange, give him the "Tell them *YOURNAME* sent you" line. Kreia will
gain +INF+ from this. It doesn't matter what you say to Kreia.
If you want to really annoy the Exchange, then agree to look for his wife.
You can ask for credits from him, and he's quite willing to pay you. Asking
for a reward here has no Light/Dark implications.
You'll find Aaida later in the Refugee Sector, main camp, about the center
of it. To get her out, however, you have to get rid of the Exchange guards
near the entrance to that area. (If you don't, they kill her and you get
a DSP) She's by Hussef. Talk to her, and tell her that Lootra's looking for
her as well. Tell her that she can go, and that you're back to help the
Republic for 1000 XP and a LSP. Strangely, you can do this even if you have
already KILLED Lootra.
Then return to Lootra in the flophouse to get a random Lightsaber or
Lightsaber part. If you have Kreia, plus one of these people: Atton,
Bao-Dur, Disciple or Handmaiden; Kreia will get mad at you. Defend your
actions the entire way (always the first option) to get +INF+ with whoever
is with you. Not a huge +INF+ increase. In fact, it's barely noticeable.
Nar Shaddaa Refugee Sector
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When you first enter the Refugee Sector, you'll have to get past a couple of
guards. If you have a high STR, you can [Intimidate] them to let you past.
They back down, but you can still fight them if you insist (DSP). If you're
looking for Aaida for Lootra, this will allow her to get past later. Whether
Light or Dark, I'd just kill them.
Note: They become unkillable once you pay the Toll, as you can never bring
up the Intimidate option again. So, seriously, just kill them the
first time. Take the Dark Side hit. I've heard that you can avoid
the Dark Side hit by talking to them with Kreia in the lead.
The door ahead to the right leads straight to the Exchange, but it is
magnetically sealed. Take the left door, down the ramp, through the next
door, down the next ramp and through the last door and into the refugee
camp. There are another large number of SIDEQUESTS to accomplish here, and
many have INFLUENCE for your companions, and affect your standing with the
Exchange.
You'll find Adana down here, in about the center of the area, and you can
talk to her to finish the Lootra quest (see above).
SIDEQUEST: Deal with the Sick Man, Geriel
Note: There is an infinite experience bug here. See the Cheats section if
you want to try that. Don't talk to Saquesh yet, and don't
heal/kill Geriel if you do it.
If you want influence with the Exchange or to get the Refugees More Space
(see Hussef's SIDEQUEST below), go through the camp and talk to
Saquesh in the Exchange complex immediately after talking to Geriel, but
before doing anything about him, first to get the quest to deal with him.
It's 250 XP for even bringing this to his attention, and agreeing to deal
with it. You won't get a reward from Saquesh no matter how you handle this.
Note: If you talked to Geriel with a good Treat Injury, your character
knows that it isn't serious, and will have to [Lie] to Saquesh.
This has no Dark implications.
One of the few places in the game where the Exile must have Treat Injury to
do something. (The only other time I can think of this happening is way
back at the very beginning in Peragus) Immediately turn right when entering
the Refugee camp from the entrance, and you'll see a man barely standing
upright.
There are two ways to deal with him. Heal him with Treat Injury, or
Persuade him to take his own life for the good of the camp.
If your Treat Injury isn't so good, and you want to heal him, there are a
number of ways to improve it. Obviously you can raise it by gaining levels.
You can also use items to improve your skills, and several will give
bonuses to Treat Injury. Finally anything that raises your WISDOM will also
raise your Treat Injury. I thought for sure that you could have Disciple do
this for you, but you can't. When healed you get 500 XP, LSP, and a random
Lightsaber part.
If you Persuade him to kill himself you get a DSP. You gain a 2xDSP if you
have the Treat Injury and [Lie] that he should kill himself anyway. Getting
him to commit suicide is worth 500 XP and the Dark Side Point (DSP) as
above. No Lightsaber part.
SIDEQUEST: Kahranna (Or, Get Transportation for the Family)
Close to the end of the refugee camp, near the doors that lead to the
Exchange compound, is a woman named Kahranna. She paid a "spacer" to take
her family off planet, but got duped. She immediately thinks that you are
that spacer.
Dark Siders can't say that they are, and [Persuade] to get 500 credits
(always succeeds, and you get a DSP). Or you can [Persuade] to increase it
to 600, but you actually need skill for this. If you [Lie] and say you'll
be back soon, she'll never talk to you again. If you say "Not likely..."
followed by "Sorry, but I have to go now" you get another DSP. And from
"Not likely..." you can listen to her story again to hear the Light option.
Light Siders and Neutrals will listen to her story. She paid 50 credits to
a man named Planore, who probably just took the money and ran. You can
Persuade her to pay you the same rate, 50 credits. Eventually take the
quest.
There are, I believe, two options to this: Fassa and Lasavvou. It isn't a
big deal on which you choose, and she won't be here when you get back.
To get Fassa to help them, you need to reorder the Freighters for
him (see his SIDEQUEST above). You also need to go to Goto's yacht and back
before he'll take them. There is no such limit for Lasavvou. You get 2000
XP for completing this.
SIDEQUEST: Odis ("I wanna be a pilot!")
Near Kahranna, and right next to the door that leads up to the Exchange
Compound is Odis, who wants to be a pilot. Take his quest. Refusing does
nothing, although if you talk to him again and ask "Who are you?" he won't
talk to you ever again.
Go find Fassa up at the Nar Shaddaa Docks area, and ask if he needs a
pilot. This can't be completed until after you go to Goto's yacht.
(1500 XP) Odis will be gone when you get back.
Alternatively, if you haven't found the Captain for the aliens in the
flophouse, you can tell them about Odis. Point them towards him and get
a reward: 2500 XP, LSP.
SIDEQUEST: Kaul (Or, Break Into the Exchange... Without Killing?)
In the bottom left corner of the refugee camp is a Twi'lek named Kaul who
will sell you, for 30 credits, the idea to use Stealth in the Exchange
Compound and steal their things. This works fine, with Atton or someone
who can use Stealth and Security (to open locked doors), but is no better
than just killing everyone there.
Anyway, if your Stealth is uncovered, you have to fight the Gamorrean
guards who saw it, but strangely, the rest of the base will be undisturbed.
SIDEQUEST: Get the Refugees Extra Space (Or Convince Them to Give Up)
If you've already killed the Serroco leader and Saquesh, this quest is
already techinically done. Otherwise, go talk to Hussef in the center of
the area. Ask if you can help to get this quest. Sounds good, take it.
Alternatively, you can Persuade them to give up, and let the Exchange win.
The option comes up if you ask what the Exchange is doing to them, or if
you just talk to him again. To get him to accept this Persuade check, you
have to start undermining his camp first. Get Nadaa to sell herself to
slavery (if you try to Persuade him when he talks about Nadaa, it won't
work and you get an extra DSP). Then get Geriel to kill himself. Once those
are done, he'll accept the Persuade and give up to the Overseer (1500 XP,
DSP). This leads to a Disciple interaction. Tell him one of these:
- +INF+ I share your regret, Disciple. But they must accept the reality
of their situation.
- This is the best way. We cannot let our judgment be clouded by pity.
- -INF- Power requires others to be sacrificed.
- -INF- Keep your opinions to yourself.
As in many cases, there is a violent, and non-violent solution. The
violent has you just run over to the Serroco area (reached either through
the ramps at the lower part, or upper part of this area) or through the
lower right cargo container, which tunnels to their side. You can then just
be hostile to the guards, and fight it to the Serroco leader. (500 XP)
Then you go find Saquesh in the Exchange Compound, try to Intimidate him,
which fails, and goes to combat (1000 XP). (You can then free Adana if
you haven't already) That's it, quest over. Violence used.
The non-violent approach has you talking to them. The Serroco can be dealt
with a couple ways. First, you can Force Persuade them to leave the
Refugees alone. You can also Persuade them, if you have the skill.
(2000 XP) You can't do anything else with them, they'll attack if you try.
Get out of the conversation, then find a Security Door and try to open it
this turns everyone hostile, and you can then kill all the Thugs (XP for
each kill) plus the leader (500 XP, same as if you just killed him to
start with).
Whether you kill them or not, you can search their Cargo Containers for
treasures. (But if you open any locked doors, they go hostile, which would
allow you to kill them)
Note: There's actually a bug here. You are actually supposed to be able
to Force Persuade them to attack the Exchange, provided you have
Dominate Mind. But, due to the bug, it always fails.
Then go talk to Geriel to find out that he's sick. Don't cure him. Go to
Saquesh and mention that Geriel is sick, and then Persuade him to lay off
the Refugees. (this leads to the infinite experience bug, see Cheats) Now,
you don't actually have to do anything with Geriel, the quest is over.
(1250 XP, 250 for mentioning Geriel, 1000 for getting the Exchange to lay
off the Refugees)
Note: If you still want to kill him, find out about Nadaa's daughter,
then use Intimidate on him and he'll attack. This way you can then
kill him for 2000 XP. (1000 XP for killing him for Nadaa, 100 XP
for killing him for the refugees) However, if you do this, then
Hussef won't give you a reward. So, go talk to Hussef first, then
return to Saquesh and kill him.
Return to Hussef for a reward, a random Lightsaber. The way to change
a random reward is to reload from before you talked to Hussef. (You have to
actually already have a lightsaber to get random Lightsabers, otherwise
you just get lightsaber parts)
SIDEQUEST: Settle Nadaa's Accounts with the Exchange
If you talk to Nadaa or Saquesh, this quest pops up. You find Nadaa just a
little bit to the "left" (as seen on the map) from the "Refugee Commons."
Nadaa's daughter is being held by the Exchange and will be sold to the
Hutts in a short while.
There are three ways to handle this, two of which give you some Influence
with the Exchange, and another which will really annoy the Exchange. In
purely "I want the best reward possible" terms, it's best to do option 3,
kill him.
Note: If you kill Saquesh, you can't do the infinite experience
bug/cheat. (see the Cheats section)
First, you can go to Saquesh and pay her debt. He'll want a full 1000
credits out of you, but you can Persuade that down to a more reasonable
figure. You can also Force Persuade to get her released for free. (1000 XP,
LSP) Return to Nadaa for a random item. If you pay the debt, rather than
Force Persuade, the Exchange will take note of you. Also, using the line
[Lie] the refugees are planning a rescue, "removes" Nadaa, ends the quest,
and gets you some Exchange attention. (1000 XP as above, DSP)
Second, you can Persuade Nadaa to sell herself into slavery so that she can
help protect her daughter, who will also shortly be a slave. When you first
talk to Nadaa, tell her to pay her tribute, then use the Persuade option
to sell herself as well. If she is persuaded, you get 1000 XP and a DSP.
Then go talk to Saquesh to get a reward, a random item. This makes the
Exchange take note of you.
Note: To get the reward from Saquesh, you can't have gotten the quest
from him, you must have persuaded Nadaa without having talked to
him about it.
Third, you can offer to kill Saquesh to free her daughter. Talk about Nadaa
and then do an [Intimidate], which will always fail. This breaks out combat
(and is one of only TWO ways to fight Saquesh, the other being a second
Intimidate check you get if you try to get him to ease off the refugees).
When he's dead you get 1000 XP. You'll have to fight all the Exchange Thugs
in this area, however. This effectively finishes the Get the Refugees Extra
Space quest regarding the Exchange half. Once he's dead, work your way to
the locked storeroom just below (as seen on the map) Saquesh's room. Talk
to Adana there to free her. (1500 XP) You can also get a random item from
Nadaa after.
SIDEQUEST: Fix the Airspeeder
Airspeeder Navigation Interface - Tienn Tubb's place
Maneuvering Flaps - Pylon 3, Docks Area
Power Cell - Reward from Ithorian in Flophouse
In the Serroco territory of the Refugee sector (either go through one of
the cargo containers, or instead of turning down into the refugee camp,
keep going from the entrance along the ramps; it takes a Force Persuade to
get into their territory without violence), you find the Airspeeder.
Useful thing, allows quick transit from area to area.
Note: If you don't want to fight them just yet, tell the Serroco leader
that you'll "be going now."
[Computer] Install navigation interface.
[Repair] Install maneuvering flaps.
[Demolitions] Install cryogenic power cells.
[Security] Unlock airspeeder's controls.
The Airspeeder is repaired using your skills, however, you can have Bao-Dur
check your work, and even use Atton ("let the expert handle this") to
unlock the security protocols. +INF+ if you let them do that and compliment
them afterwards. (800 XP) Naturally if you insult their skills, before or
after, you lose -INF-.
Infinite Influence Note:
In order to get infinite influence for Atton, you need to install the
Airspeeder Navigation Interface from Tienn Tubb's place and have Atton
handle unlocking the security controls. Then, if it's not too late, you
need to kill Kodin and get his Airspeeder Navigation Interface as well.
Then you attempt to install it again but this time you can do it over
and over again because the game doesn't take it up. It only works if
you installed the Interface from Tienn Tubb's place first, then go get
the other one. (from Andrew Ngo)
SIDEQUEST: Discover Atton's Terrible Secret
While you walk around the "left" side of the Refugee area, you will
overhear a conversation between two Twi'leks about Atton's past. Talk to
them to learn it. They warn you that Atton isn't who he seems to be.
Well, when you feel up to it, talk to Atton about this, and ask him some
questions. There's only one way we care to go. Make sure to use the "Calm
down" option, it gives INFLUENCE. You want to ask about his Past, but that
brings up an Influence check. If you need more Influence with Atton, there
are a few good places in Nar Shaddaa for that, such as the Airspeeder, and
the earlier dialogue with a refugee getting hassled by some Exchange Thugs.
Atton also responds to murdering innocents, if you're going dark side.
Pass the three Influence checks to learn all about his past. The first one
requires that you have gotten +INF+ with him 2 or 3 times. The next takes
at least 2 more +INF+. Once you get through it all, he'll ask to become a
Jedi, you can then train him to become a Jedi Sentinal.
Note: One line in his dialogue LOOKS like a Light option, but actually
gives you a DSP. Bug! "I did a lot I wasn't proud of..." is a Dark
option.
Atton.....................................................................
. A1: All right - what did you want to know? .
. - I met someone on Nar Shaddaa who says he knows you. > A2 .
. A2: Yeah? That's a surprise. Did he say I owed him credits, too? .
. - He says you're not "Atton" at all. That you showed up on Nar .
. Shaddaa during the Jedi Civil War. > another line > A2 .
. - Is there anything you want to tell me? > A3 .
. A3: No, because you're asking about it - if I wanted to tell you ... .
. - +INF+ Calm down, I just wanted to know. No harm meant. > A14 .
. - I think I have a right to know about your past. > A14 .
. - If you've got a problem, let's settle it right now. > A4 .
. - -INF- Perhaps pain will bring the truth out of you. > A4 .
. A4: You know what? I helped you get off Peragus. If I hadn't been ... .
. - [Intelligence] Actually, if I had been trapped on the administration.
. level on Peragus, the Sith still would have arrived through the .
. airlock and tried to capture me. > A6 .
. - Why are you trying to protect me? > A5 .
. A5: I don't know. I'm not sure I understand it half the time. .
. - I want to know where you were before you arrived on Nar Shaddaa. .
. > A7 .
. A6: Yeah, well... I - I still helped you. Sort of. Maybe you shouldn't...
. - You should if a Hutt is giving it to you. > A7 .
. - I want to know where you were before you arrived on Nar Shaddaa. .
. > A7 .
. A7: You know what? Not once have I asked you about the Mandalorian... .
. - If you've got a question, then ask. > A8 .
. - DSP - I did a lot I wasn't proud of - and I am sorry for the lives .
. that were lost, on both sides. > A8 .
. - DSP - My power gives me the right. > A8 .
. A8: How did you even live with yourself after Malachor? Is that why... .
. - It wasn't like that. > line > A9 .
. - Go on, let's hear it all. > A9 .
. A9: But Jedi don't kill do they? At least not their prisoners. Maybe... .
. - LSP - They did not deserve it. Why would you even say that? > A12 .
. - There must be some reason you believe as you do - why? > A12 .
. - You weren't there. You have no idea what happened. > A11 .
. - DSP - If you wish to die, keep talking. > A10 .
. A10: Go ahead and try. I might be a little more than you can handle... .
. - I'd like to know about your past, especially if we're travelling .
. together. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, A15.
. A11: Oh yeah? Shows how much you know. Maybe you're wrong about a lot....
. - LSP - No one deserved what happened at Malachor. How can you say .
. those Jedi deserved to die? > A12 .
. - DSP - If you wish to die, keep talking > A10 .
. A12: Because Jedi lie. And they manipulate. And every act of charity... .
. - LSP - The Jedi are guardians of the peace. They are not as you .
. describe. > A13 .
. - What do you mean? > different line > A13 .
. - DSP - And that is why the Sith were right. > A13 .
. - That is why I am no longer a Jedi. > A13 .
. A13: The Jedi... the Sith... you don't get it, do you? To the galaxy... .
. - You are wrong, Atton. That is not the way of the Jedi. > A10 options.
. - DSP - If you wish to die, keep talking. > A10 options .
. - I've heard enough. > A10 options .
. A14: Is this an interrogation? If so, you're terrible at it... .
. - Maybe I will if you won't tell me. > A4 .
. - I wouldn't do that - again. > A4 .
. - > other options from A3 .
. A15: [Influence: Success] Well, don't get too attached to me ... .
. - Why not? > line > A16 .
. - Are you all right? > line > A16 .
. - I don't think we've done one thing you have liked since we left .
. Peragus. > A16 .
. A16: It's because I'm a deserter. It's what I do. .
. - You served in the war? > A17 .
. - Which war are you talking about? > A17 .
. - Did you turn away from the Jedi Civil War or the Mandalorian Wars? .
. > A17 .
. A17: Served in both of them. Against the Mandalorians, before and ... .
. - But why? > A18 .
. - I didn't know you served with the Republic. > A19 .
. - You were Sith? > line > A19 .
. A18: Because I followed orders. .
. - Why did you desert? > line > A19 .
. - > other A17 options .
. A19: Right after that final battle at Malachor, I was right there ... .
. - You took an oath - what you did was a betrayal. > line > A20 .
. - LSP - That was wrong - you answered war with war. > line > A20 .
. - I agree. The Republic did not deserve your loyalty, not any longer. .
. > A20 .
. - DSP - The Republic was weak. You were right to turn from them - and .
. the Jedi. > A20 .
. A20: The Mandalorians were slaughtering us by the millions. The millions.
. - Instead, you all became Sith. > line > A21 .
. - LSP - That is no reason to start another war against the Republic .
. and end more lives. > A21 .
. - You betrayed your oath. > line > A21 .
. - DSP - The Republic deserved to be betrayed - and you knew where .
. your true loyalties lay. > A21 .
. A21: We were loyal to Revan. That was enough. She/He saved us. .
. - What happened then? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, A22 .
. - So you followed Revan - like I had. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back .
. to questions > SUCCESS, A22 .
. - Do you want to talk about it? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCESS, A22 .
. A22: [Influence: Success] After Malachor, after the Mandalorian Wars... .
. - The idea of you fighting a Jedi is ridiculous. > A23 .
. - How? > A23 .
. - You fought Jedi? > A23 .
. A23: Yeah, it sure is. And that's why I was so good at it... .
. - How could you have killed Jedi? > A24 .
. - You make it sound easy. > A24 .
. - This is a little hard to believe. > A43 .
. A24: I taught myself... techniques. It's hard for Jedi to sense what... .
. - Is that why you act the way you do? > line > A25 .
. - That seems unusual. > A25 .
. - So you force emotions? To block someone reading your mind? > A25 .
. A25: Yeah, I had a talent for it. More like instinct. .
. - What do you mean? > A26 .
. - So this all came down to the Jedi - and the Force. > A26 .
. - She/He was right. And she/he proved it. > A26 .
. A26: Whoever had the most, the strongest Jedi were going to win the ... .
. - Capture Jedi? Not kill them? > A27 .
. - So what happened? > A27 .
. - I still don't believe this. > A27 .
. A27: Yeah, Revan had plans for all Jedi. I think it was important ... .
. - But you're here now. Why? > A28 .
. - So how did you break away? > A28 .
. - That doesn't sound like something one can walk away from. > A28 .
. A28: One day I decided not to do it anymore, so I left. Ended up on ... .
. - LSP - Why are you telling me this? You're telling a Jedi you killed .
. Jedi. > A29 .
. - DSP - You took a risk, thinking I would care that you killed Jedi - .
. I don't. > A29 .
. A29: (line) And maybe I want somebody to know who I was in case a ... .
. - But why did you leave the Sith? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCESS, A30 .
. A30: [Influence: Success] Well, there was a woman. A Jedi. She... .
. - Who? > A31 .
. - Were you assigned to kill her? > line > A31 .
. - Was this the last mission? > line > A31 .
. A31: I never knew her name. She sought me out. She said she had come... .
. - Like what? > A32 .
. - Truth about what? > A32 .
. - Are you sure she was lying? Maybe she did want to save you. > line .
. > A32 .
. A32: She said that Revan was doing something terrible to Jedi within... .
. - So what did you do? > A33 .
. - If you didn't believe her, then what happened to her? > A33 .
. - Did you kill her? > A33 .
. A33: I did what I did with all Jedi. I hurt her. I hurt her a lot... .
. - LSP - That is what it means to be a Jedi. > A34 .
. - LSP - Perhaps she felt a greater good would be served with your .
. salvation. > A34 .
. - DSP - Jedi lies. > A34 .
. A34: I killed her for crawling in my head, for showing me that. But... .
. - That is a lot to bear - and it is a lot for me to forgive. > A35 .
. - So what happened to her? > A35 .
. - You were right to kill her. > A35 .
. A35: In the end, she sacrificed herself to keep my secret, to prevent....
. - Then I welcome your help. > A36 .
. - I can't forgive you for what you've done, Atton. > A37 .
. - Then she lied to you, Atton. That is what Jedi do. > A38 .
. A36: I didn't want to tell you any of this. But... I had to. Because... .
. - That is all I ask. > A-FORCE .
. - Then let us stand together against the Sith. > A-FORCE .
. - I welcome your help - and your honesty. > A-FORCE .
. A37: I don't want you to forgive me. That would only make it worse... .
. - > A36 responses + .
. - You owe her nothing - she filled your head with Jedi lies. > A38 .
. - Pay her for what? Using the Force on your mind? > A38 .
. A38: It didn't feel that way, though - it was different. .
. - Yet she caused you to turn from the Sith. > A39 .
. - There was a chance you could have been trained to be something .
. stronger, and you weren't. > A39 .
. - She saw a threat, and she dealt with it. That is all. There was no .
. concern in her actions for you, only for the Jedi. > A40 .
. A39: Yes, but that was my choice. .
. - Was it? She crawled inside your head, changed you. Made you doubt. .
. > A40 .
. - Is that what you believe? Then she truly succeeded. > A40 .
. A40: But what she said... if I had remained, they would have turned ... .
. - The Jedi let Republic soldiers and innocents die against the ... .
. > A41 .
. - You were already a killer, Atton, and you could have been so much .
. more. > A41 .
. - She manipulated you, made you turn away from your calling. > A41 .
. - She already turned you into something else! Look at you! > A41 .
. A41: :: Frowns, silent, thinking :: .
. - Atton, you could feel the Force. You were a threat to the Jedi. You .
. had killed members of their Order - why would they forgive you? .
. > A42 .
. - She made you turn away from Revan to convert you - to fight back .
. against Revan. > A42 .
. - Maybe "saving" you was intended to punish you. > A42 .
. - You admit she crawled in your head. That Jedi have the power to .
. change someone's personality... she changed you from a killer, to a .
. fool. > A42 .
. A42: But why would she die for me? And the feeling... that love... .
. - > continued discussion > A-FORCE .
. A43: Yeah, maybe you'll believe this - that when fighting a Jedi... .
. - DSP - Could be handy if I need to murder any Jedi - go on. > A44 .
. - LSP - Tell me, I need to know how to protect myself, and others .
. around me. > A44 .
. - How could you have killed Jedi? > A24 .
. - You make it sound easy. > A24 .
. - How did you learn how to do this? > A24 .
. A44: If there's no whiny little Padawan, start shooting innocents... .
. - > A23 responses .
. A-FORCE: Once, a Jedi showed me the Force - I heard it, I felt it. .
. - Then I will train you, Atton. > training > END .
. - I cannot train you, Atton. > explanation > END .
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Meeting with the Exchange
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When you leave the Refugee Sector, walk forward and you should get a cutscene
of the dock master Quello getting hassled by the Red Eclipse slavers. (This
is a good sign, it means that you have nearly gotten the notice of the
Exchange, as this only triggers once you've done enough to get noticed) You
suddenly get the idea that you need to go back to the Ebon Hawk. On your way
back, just before the final turn to the Ebon Hawk, you'll be attacked by
Trandoshian slavers. They like to use Vibroswords, so either use a Melee
shield, or just charge them with a good DEF character.
Enter your ship.
Two ways to handle the reclamation of your ship, in general. First, you can
fight and kill all the slavers on board, they are in or around all rooms
except the crew quarter rooms. Or, you can skip all that and go straight to
the Security Room (by the cockpit) and meet with the Slaver Leader with or
without fighting any of them. (He killed the guy who said you stole his ship,
the Ebon Hawk) It is neither Light nor Dark to let him live and work for you.
(750 XP) If you choose obedience, you can meet with one of them in the
Cantina and he'll pay you money. Killing him only yields 500 XP (plus what
you get from killing him) and nothing else.
Whichever you choose, you will be (load screen) placed back in your ship.
You can talk to Atton about his past, if you haven't already (see his
dialogue map in the SIDEQUEST: Discover Atton's Terrible Secret above), you
can also try sparring with Handmaiden again, or following any of the
dialogues that you haven't gotten yet. If you've sparred with Handmaiden
three times, you can ask about her Mother to start her Jedi training (see
the Ebon Hawk section above) After that, hit the workbench to make
sure your items are up to date and ready to go. Also, if this is the first
planet you have hit, you might be level 15 by now, and can have Kreia give
you a prestige class. Talk to her with:
Level 15
Clearly Light/Dark side
Visas in party
Then pick a class. You are limited by alignment, so a Dark Sider must take
Sith classes. Other than that, you can mix it. Jedi Sentinals can take Sith
Lord. Jedi Guardians can take Jedi Watchmen. There's no limit.
Also, you don't have to do this, but if you have a Breath Mask equipped on
someone else in your party, you should unequipi it and give it to your
main character. You'll get a Force Power against poison later, but with a
Breath Mask you won't have to renew it.
Exit your ship.
If things are working right, about five seconds after leaving the ship,
Atton will tell you that you got a comm message from Visquis inviting you
(and you alone) to come say "hi" to him at the Jekk'Jekk Tarr. (the poisonous
bar in the Nar Shaddaa Docks area) You have to go alone. You can't change
party members, you can't go back to the ship. All you can really do is
head over to the Jekk'Jekk Tarr.
Note: If this doesn't happen right away, check for any SIDEQUESTS that you
haven't done. Go dance for Vogga. Reorder the freighters. Whatever
you haven't yet gone and done, go and do it. Then as you move around
the areas this should trigger. You also must have visited each area
at least once.
If not, then go see Keelah-Nah, the little bat guy outside the Pazaak
Den and pay him 2000 credits to get the Exchange mad at you. This is
not a guarantee, but almost always works (with time).
Many people have told me that there is a glitch here where the
Visquis message does not arrive. It has never once happened to me,
and I've never needed to pay Keelah-Nah. Your mileage may vary.
Your short trip to the Jekk'Jekk Tarr
Walk through the main area, and up to the Nar Shaddaa docks area. Atton comes
up to wish you good luck before heading over to the Cantina.
The bar we want is in the top right of this area, near Pylon 3. Before you
get there, Mira (Light Side main character) or Hanharr (Dark Side main
character) will stop you. This cuts over to Atton in the Cantina.
Atton's Twin Troubles
Oh, Atton, getting into trouble on your own? Hope you kept Atton's weapons
and armor up to date, upgraded and ready to go. He's got troubles. This is
going to be a 2-on-1 melee fight, which is tough for Atton, even if he's a
Jedi. Using ranged weapons in melee is a bad idea, unless you have both the
Close Combat feats. They will use Energy Shields, anyway, and heal when
damaged. If you stay and fight them (see the Note below on an Exploit you
can use), you will need to use Mandalorian Melee/Power shields, and heal
when damaged. Keep it to melee weapons. When dead, they each drop their Twin
Suns swords, but when this fight ends, you automatically return to
controlling the Exile, so you have to come back later, after Goto's yacht.
Note: This fight is ridiculously easy if you just duck behind the counter,
and stand as far from the path out as possible. Then shoot them. If
you stay back, they just stand there. They can only hit you if you
step close to the counter, so stay back by the wall.
Atton returns to the ship, tells everyone to expect trouble, which shows up
right behind him. Back to the Exile.
The Jekk'Jekk Tarr
Try to enter the Jekk'Jekk Tarr. Regardless of which side you are on, the end
result will be Mira takes an environment suit, and heads to the Jekk'Jekk
Tarr posing as you. This happens even if you are Dark Sided, but don't get
too excited, this will be all you see of Mira. Also, if you're Dark Sided, do
NOT level her up. Waste of time. If you've never been in the Jekk'Jekk Tarr,
you can search its four rooms for Chemicals located in the corner dispensers,
and near the bar. Also, the captain of the Lunar Shadow is inside, and even
though Mira has no idea who that is, she can finish the quest for you. He's
in the room immediately to your left when you enter, in the back left corner.
Visquis is located in the far back room, which is over right once, then up
twice. Mira springs the trap, gets caught herself, and you wake up. You'll
see the Jedi Master here telling you to get over there yourself. Pushy.
You wake up in the flophouse, behind the false door in the last room that
you couldn't open before. Head over to the Jekk'Jekk Tarr, over near Pylon 3
in the upper right of this area. Make sure there is a good set of equipment
for either Hanharr or Mira when you get him/her. Hanharr can't wear armor,
but can use any implant. You won't be coming back for a bit, so when you're
good and ready, go in.
The poison starts to get to you (even if you are wearing a Breath Mask), but
good ol' Kreia sends you a vision and teaches you Force Breath Control. It
only protects from poisons, so you will get poisoned if you let it lapse.
(although since it lasts 200 seconds, you can easily keep it up all the
time, plus it gives you a "grace period" -- you get about 10 seconds after
you see it end before you get poisoned). Use it and enter the bar.
This will be a non-stop battle royale until you reach Visquis's room. You
don't have to, but there is also the room to the "left" to visit. Enemies
everywhere. I typically just sweep the place clean, Flurry on one guy (dead),
use the trigger (pauses) to switch to the next, Flurry the next guy. Repeat.
If your deflect blasters is good enough, they can't shoot you, although when
you reach the Gand room to the right, they mob you and attack with Melee.
You might consider a Mandalorian Melee Shield there, or use the Force Barrier
power.
When you get close, you get a cutscene as Visquis beats a hasty retreat out
of there. Keep going. You just have to get through this last room of Gand to
get to Visquis's room, although he's gone now.
In the last room before the tunnels, get the chemicals from the dispensers,
then talk to one of the Twi'leg attendants. They beg for mercy. You get these
options:
- LSP - Calm down, I mean you no harm. Where is Visquis?
- I'm looking for a Quarren. Have you seen him?
- DSP - Tell me where your master is, or you'll be corpses.
You can then ask for information (if you're Persuasive) about his defenses,
and the guards he has working for him. You can also ask about Mira/Hanharr.
Finish with either line:
- LSP - Get to safety. I'll handle your master.
- DSP - Then get out of here, now, before I kill you.
The exit is in the upper left and leads to the tunnels.
The Maze of Tunnels
o - S - M - M - o o - Empty Room
| | | | | = - no door
X - o - o - M - M = M M - Room with Mine(s)
| | | | E - Entrance
M - o - M - E J - Jekk'Jekk Tar
| | | F - Feraa's Corpse (with 2 mines)
F - M J X - Exit
S - Suyin's Corpse (with 2 mines)
Watch a cutscene that sets up where you are going...
You enter, and your mini-map immediately dies. You are in a maze of doors,
and tunnels. Complicating things, doors will close behind you. Try not to get
turned around. Your goal is to reach the Security Door at the end.
The basic rule of maze survival is to pick a direction and stick to it. In
practical terms, it works by following a wall. It doesn't matter which one,
just pick a wall, left or right, and always go in that direction the wall
goes. However, there are a few treasures to be found on some corpses who
died in the maze. If you feel comfortable wandering the maze, you can find
these things. It's actually a small, easy to read maze, once you get used to
it. The only trick is to not get turned around.
Once you hit the Security Door, you switch characters...
Tip: Before hitting the Security Door, if you have good defensive items,
unequip them now so they become available for Mira/Hanharr. Neither
can wear heavy armor, and Hanharr can't wear any armor. After they use
it and before the game switches back to your character, you can
unequip these items from them.
Visquis's Lair
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|---||---|
| || | W - Workbench
----d------d---- V - Ventilation Controls
| __ __ d To The Maze Ex - Escape Tunnel, with Controls
| | __[]__ | | (Goal)
| d d | S - Sparring Room
----| |-d----d-|-d|---- K - Key on a Corpse
| __|__W_V___|__ | d - Doors
| | | |
| d S S d |
|Ex-|--|---dd---|--|---|
| d d d d |
| | | | || |
|---| | | |---|
/ | |
/ /--dd--
| / |
| | Pit | |
/ / /
d/--dd--/d /
/ /K /
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Hanharr Vs. Mira
Now these two finally get the no-holds-barred grudge match they deserve.
Which character YOU control depends on who you sided with earlier, and that
was based on your Light/Dark Alignment at the time. Dark Siders play as
Hanharr, while Light/Neutral Siders get Mira. It's an easier fight if you
play as Hanharr (especially if you didn't level her up).
Mira has a light step, and won't set off mines, and could just run a circuit
around the place letting Hanharr set off mines behind her. This isn't as
useful as you might think. Mines don't do a lot, and he runs too fast to
get hit by the poisoned mines. You can, however, run to just behind the mine,
shoot at Hanharr, let him get to the mine, then run away again. Repeat.
Note: Although you can level up Hanharr without thinking about it, if you
play as Mira you have to consider that she can become a Jedi later.
Should you level her up now, or wait for her to get those Jedi
levels? I'd just level her up. Saving levels never seems to pay off
like you'd think. Besides, she can be really good with the blaster.
Saving Mira's Levels Strategy...........................................
. For the first Mira battle with HanHarr, I levelled Mira only a couple .
. of times to make her more able to survive the battle. Since my Exile .
. had a high Demolitions skill, I'd retrieved a bunch of the more .
. deadly mines I'd come across earlier, so I had Mira lay down a couple .
. of big ones and encouraged Hanharr to walk right over them. He went .
. down quickly. .
. .
. A single Deadly Sonic caused enough damage that I just finished him .
. off with blasters and another mine or two. The hounds were even .
. easier. .
. .
. Then I levelled Mira up once more and gave her some stealth. Since .
. she has access to your entire inventory, if you've got any left over .
. stealth belts you haven't broken down yet, this is the easiest way to .
. complete this level. Sneak all the way to the controls, and then let .
. the Exile finish off all the bad guys (because if Mira isn't levelled .
. up, these guys can be too tough for her). .
. .
. That way you can choose to save most of her levels till after she's a .
. Jedi. (from David Pidcock) .
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Mira
Scout -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 10 0 Vitality 54 Computer Use 8 none
DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Demolitions 8
CON 12 +1 Defense 19 Awareness 8
INT 14 +2 Fortitude 6 Repair 8
WIS 11 0 Reflex 8 Security 2
CHA 10 0 Will 5 Treat Injury 5
Feats: Caution, Uncanny Dodge I, Dueling, Evasion, Targeting I & II,
Close Combat, Point Guard*, Precise Shot I
Items: Mira's Ballistic Mesh Jacket (+5 DEF, resist melee 5/-), Wrist
Launcher
* When Mira is in the lead, the party cannot set off mines
If you do simply level up Mira right away, put points into Repair and
Computer Use, or any skill your current group lacks. Mira is good at
ranged weapons, and becomes better at higher levels. She gains feats on
the Precise Shot tree for free. Mira becomes a Jedi later, if you get
Influence with her, but there's nothing that says she can't be a Jedi
with blasters. She's good at them.
Hanharr
Scout -- Level 4
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 20 +5 Vitality 60 Demolitions 6
DEX 13 +1 Force 0 Awareness 6
CON 20 +5 Defense 11 Repair 4
INT 10 0 Fortitude 9 Treat Injury 5
WIS 12 +1 Reflex 5
CHA 8 -1 Will 5
Feats: Armor Proficiency (Heavy)*, Improved Power Attack, Weapon Focus:
Melee, Uncanny Dodge I, Wookiee Toughness**, Targeting I, Precise
Shot I, Close Combat, Wookiee Rage***
Items: Rykk Blade (2)
* Despite having proficiency in it, Hanharr cannot wear armor.
** Works like the Marauder/Weapon Master feat, reducing damage taken
*** Works like the Marauder Fury ability, adding to STR and damage, with
a penalty to DEF at the same time. The high level abilities are
supposed to give extra attacks, and like the Marauder, don't. BUG.
Hanharr cannot become a Jedi, so level him up immediately. Take nothing
but STR with him, after an initial point of DEX. Hanharr will take some
hits, but with his sky high CON, he has Vitality to spare. He has many of
the same abilities as a Sith Marauder, the Rage, the Toughness, making
him a wicked melee fighter. Give him the toughness feats to increase
that ability. Hanharr starts with two weapons, but doesn't have any of
the Two Weapon Fighting feats, which should be a priority.
Whoever you are, fight and win the battle. As reward for winning, whoever you
are, Visquis will unleash the Kath Hounds! Now you have to fight off the
monsters.
Recover any unused mines, search all the bodies in the pit, then enter the
Kath hound lair to find the Old Beast Tender Corpse, who has the key out of
this dive. There's another corpse in here with some items for Mira's wrist
rocket, or for Hanharr, things to break down at a workbench.
Now we can leave this pit. When you open the door, you'll see a couple of
Ubese bounty hunters. These guys are annoying, and neither Mira nor Hanharr
are all that great all alone, so fighting them starts to seem rather
difficult. Especially if you see more than two at a time. They are melee
fighters, and Mira has some resistances to that type of damage from her
default armor.
Get the Jedi!
Now, what you need to do is let the Jedi in through the door, however, you
can't open that door by going there, you have to open it elsewhere. And no,
you don't open it from the main security terminal either. You need to find
the Escape Tunnel and use its nearby console to open all escape tunnels,
which lets in the Jedi.
However, if Mira/Hanharr has a better Repair than you, good news! You can use
the workbench to break down items at a better rate! (Normally breaking down
items always uses the Exile's skill, unlike Creating Items which always uses
the skill of whomever used the workbench) You can find the workbench and use
it to great effect.
With some consistency, every room here has 2 or 3 Ubese Bounty Hunters in it.
Most hallways are guarded as well. I'd kill them all, but you don't have to
do it as Mira/Hanharr. If you find battle easier with them, by all means,
clear the place out. If you just want your Lightsaber back, rush over to the
Escape tunnel.
The absolute QUICKEST way out (if you just want your Jedi back) is to go
Forward through the first door out of the Pit, then turn left in the
"Sparring Room" through that door, then the Escape Tunnel will be ahead on
your left. Use the Emergency Tunnel Control, and you switch back to your
main character. (Only do this if you're ready. There are Locked doors and
Lockers here, and Mira starts with Security)
The "Ventilation Controls" are in the same room with the workbench. It's
technically "straight up" (as seen on the map) from the pit, but you have
to go through one of the side rooms to get there. Use it, then Slice it
[0 spikes], then you can access cameras. The two rooms give you the
"Gas Room" option, or "Overload power conduit", either of which will kill
the Ubese inside. Since you had to go through at least one of these rooms
to get to the controls, you only need to do one of them. You get nothing on
its own merit for doing this, but you can easily kill Ubese this way. You
still get XP for killing them. Finally in the System Commands, you can
upload a map (1 spike) or open all security doors (1 spike). (490 XP)
Return of the Jedi
Once your Jedi is back inside (after watching a cutscene you can't use (A) to
cut his lines short), your eventual goal is to head back down to the pit.
However, that avoids clearing this place out. There's nothing else that you
HAVE to do here, but going room by room searching for treasures and killing
Ubese is good practice... and profitable to boot. Every room has treasure, so
go everywhere.
Also, if you're having trouble with the Ubese, perhaps you need to start
working on other strategies for fighting enemies. There are going to be more
times in the game where you don't have backup companions. Also, being able
to do more than one thing is useful. Being dependent on Force Powers can have
consequences with a certain boss later. (But being a straight up Fighter
never really hurts, except at the workbench)
When you're ready, go to the center pit, your Precognition will try to warn
you... go on in. Visquis here is glad that you've arrived. Two general ways
to answer his questions.
Light Path > I'm not looking for trouble - I was hoping for a civilized
discussion. (LSP)
> Because you've all put a bounty on my head.
> I only just arrived on Nar Shaddaa - I couldn't have helped
these people any faster. (LSP)
> Enough - why did you put a bounty on me?
> Leave him alone! (LSP) > END
Dark Path > I'm here to kill you, Visquis. (DSP)
> Because you've all put a bounty on my head.
> I don't care what happens to refugees - only myself.
> Enough - why did you put a bounty on me?
> Go on, kill him - slowly. (DSP)
Then watch how the Exchange takes care of their own... This loads over to a
Mira or Hanharr cutscene, where the Jedi Master arrives a little late.
If you are Light/Neutral you'll see a Hanharr/Kreia cutscene next.
Mira/Hanharr heads over to your companions and puts together a rescue party
for you, you just need to find Goto's ship. Talk to Mira for a bit, until
she reveals that all of Vogga the Hutt's ships are targetted by Goto. This
leads to the basic tactic of getting a blank transponder, and a valid code
from Vogga's warehouse...
Vogga's Warehouse
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T3-M4 gets sold to Vogga's warehouse (by the Champ, usually, who probably
won him off Atton, at least Atton says as much later), and has a plan to get
your main character rescued. First, make sure T3 has good equipment, and is
levelled up and ready to go.
Enter the warehouse. To the left is a metal box with treasure, after that
go the other way, then around the boxes. Talk to C6-E3. The conversation
options here are... *beep* *doot* and so on. Keep going. Get the next metal
box, go around again and get the last metal box before talking to C7-E3.
He tells you to go back to the first droid. No, you can't Persuade him.
Go back and talk to C6-E3. He agrees to let you into the next room if you
"disabled" the other droid. Go back, talk to him, then kill him. Your buddy
walks in, and lets you into the next room. (100 XP)
Twist and turn around the boxes here, ignore the communications droid, he
never does anything. Keep going until you find the Metal Box and the Door.
Use the Door Controls. This is a puzzle:
3 E 1 D must become 1 E 7 T
L 7 T 3 3 L 3 D
1. Turn center counterclockwise.
2. Turn left counterclockwise.
3. Turn right clockwise.
You get 500 XP for opening the door this way. Roll into the room, and follow
the dialogue to get the codes and a blank transponder card. (100 XP) Search
the metal box behind him.
You should have gotten a good deal of Droid upgrades, so make sure to equip
them all. You'll be getting into a fight with three HK-50 droids when you
leave here. Roll back to C6-E3 (the guy who let us in) and you are attacked.
Easy battle. Use your Shield, then shoot them. Nothing could be simpler.
Search them to find:
HK Chassis (the FINAL piece)
(and other droid items)
Roll through the warehouse, and out the door. He returns with the codes,
which everyone takes to Tienn Tubb to reprogram your transponder codes of
your ship... Here Mira or Hanharr will "Officially" join you.
Note: It doesn't matter what code you set your ship to, even one from the
Pylons (i.e. the "Silver Zephyr") will work.
Goto's Yacht
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To ------ d - door
Ebon Sh O Sh - Shutdown
Hawk---- -| Program
|dd| O - Overload
| | Program
| | C - Containment
| | _ _ _ Codes
|dd|____ | ||T|| | T - Turret Code
|-----| d -----F--F--F-- P - Power Codes
d | C d______________/ R - Reset Prgrm
----|--|--. | M - Mine Prgrm
--- |-----| __ |---d D - Droid Prgrm
/ d= || = Pc - Power Cntrl
--|--- /--- / /-- |---d-|| ||-d---' Bc - Bridge Ctrl
/D d | | _ | / / __| | || | | ,---. F - Force Field
/Pc |-- |---| / |-- | / -' | / |------/
| | [ M | | | | d d Ex | Ex - Exile (you)
Bc |-- |---| _/ |-- | __ /-. | |------ P /
d | | | | | || | | `---' W - Workbench
--|---/ ---/ -- |---d-|| ||-d---, L - Lab Station
d= ||__= /
Bridge --- |-----| |---d/
/----|--||--' |______________
/ d || L d
|-----| d____/-----F--F--F--/
|dd| | || ||R|
| ||-------| - - -
| d W /
|dd||-----/
------- -|
| /
|-------/
Pick a group and head to Goto's yacht. Treat this like a regular party, and
keep in mind the skills you would need, if you assumed your main character
were in it. You need Skills (Computer, Security, Demolitions, Repair),
Combat (Lightsabers, Blasters) and Force Powers. However, you do have to
survive with just the two sent, which may or may not be easy. Here's who I'd
send:
Mira/Hanharr - good offensive skills, plus Mira has the ability to not set
off mines
Bao-Dur or T3 (if your main character doesn't have skills)
Visas (if your main character does have skills)
Your ship takes off, and in short order is intercepted by Goto's yacht,
which puts you in its docking bay. Now we have him exactly where we want him.
Goto then asks your main character some questions. The answers don't matter.
His whole deal, and the reason for the bounty was to get a Jedi to help him
save the Republic. Sounds great. None of the dialogue options have any
Light/Dark options. The proximity alarm goes off, our signal that we get
control of our party! Yay! (2800 XP)
Find the Exile
Go forward, and search the Utility Droid to get the Shutdown Program. We'll
be finding 4 total of these programs, throughout this ship. However, we only
NEED this one, the others just come in handy. There's also a plasteel
container by the droid.
Go over to the Security Console and use it. If you want to save a Spike, the
"Count" is: 2. Or just use the Spike. This gives you the defense summary for
four different rooms, the Audience Chamber, Interrogation Chamber, Exterior
Defense and Interior Defense. You can also look at cameras for each. You can
overload the power conduit in Interrogation Room, but it does nothing, no
one is in that room. Make sure to download the program Overload before you
log out. (500 XP)
Open the next door. It's full of floating mines. Take them out at range. If
you brought Visas, or someone with Force Lighting, you can take them all out
with a single shot. Once they're gone, go through the hall.
A droid here rushes you, and may be followed by more droids from other rooms.
This can get back quickly. Take out the Maintenance Droids first, when you
see them, they repair the other droids. If they all start piling out of the
doors at once, you'll be in trouble, pull back, use energy shields and try to
keep up the attack. Pause often to re-up your shields and use Medpacs. If
you get three of the droids attacking one target, they're toast, especially
if you brought Bao-Dur along, he has no Defense until he's a Jedi. Search
their remains for Access Codes - Containment Cells.
Go ahead and into the room to the right to find a Plasteel cylinder with
goodies. Back out, then use the Command Console. First, go to Program Library
and upload your programs. This adds Overload and Shutdown. We have the
Containment Cell program, so Unlock system, Containment Cell. Now go to
System Control, Containment Cells. And select Shutdown. (250 XP)
Now through the other door here. Go straight, open the locked door. These
are the containment cells we just shut down. Enter the second cell and
search the droid for the Turret Defense Access Codes. Go back to the Console,
Unlock System, and Unlock the Turret System. Go to the system commands.
You can't actually eliminate the turrets, however... select Shutdown (not
Overload, that gives the Turrets shields) and the turrets will start
targeting everything. (500 XP)
Go near the side Security Door. You'll hear sounds of battle, and see the
occasional XP appear on the screen as things are destroyed. However, the
turrets aren't in this next room.
More guard droids here. Annoying buggers. In the tip of this room is a
plasteel container. If you still hear sounds of battle, it's the turrets and
guard droids fighting. Like waiting for popcorn, wait for the sounds to stop.
Now, go through the lower door. This leads to a T section, open the Security
Door. This room is full of defense turrets, but hopefully nothing else. No
problem taking out enemies that can't move to follow you. Search for remains,
and go through to recover the Exile. Yay, it's a party again.
Get to the Bridge
We're not done with the audience room, however. Go over and use the
Auxiliary Console. Use it to acquire the Power Supply Access Codes. Now
Access Primary Power supply system. Switch both of these over to Secondary
systems. Log out.
The two Sentry Droids here can be scavenged for components with a [Repair],
that always succeeds. You can also use [Computer] to reprogram the defense
protocol to defend you, however, the droids won't follow you, so don't
bother.
Our goal is to get off this ship, but to do that we have to get to the
Bridge of the ship and cripple it to let the Ebon Hawk get free. And to
cripple it we will be turning off the cloaking device and letting the ship
take enemy fire, but that can only be done on the bridge.
Back to the previous room, and use the console. Unlock the Power System.
Nothing else we can do.
Go through the "lower" doorway. In this room, just open the bottom door and
go through. This is the interrogation room. There's a lab station here.
Turn left and open the door ("right" on the map) go down to the third cell
and get the Reset Program from the Utility Droid there. When next you see a
command console, go to systems and upload this program.
Back to the last room, and straight ahead from the cells to the next door.
This is a small room with a door to your left, and another one just ahead.
Unlock the left door ("down" on the map) and go through. Going down again
will lead to the other docking bay, which has a container with items. The
other door here is the Maintenance bay, which has some containers and a
workbench. Back out and up. Then take the door to your left (and "left" on
the map as well). Get the three containers full of items, 2 are locked.
Back out 3 rooms so that you are just below the T junction. Go through the
next door there ("left" on the map). This room has a Security Console (skip
it) and a gas mine in the center. Go through, but be ready for blaster fire
from more Turrets. Now, however, you have a Jedi and can Deflect blaster
fire, as well as use your Lightsabers to great effect. Kill the droids then
search for remains. Almost there.
Go through either of the doors and into the next room. Take out any defenses
in there. When you get close to the next door, Goto activates the mines.
This is a handy place to bring Mira. Also, if you don't want the XP, you can
use "Stun/Destroy Droid" on mines to destroy them. If you have Mira, put her
in the lead (cycle BLACK until she's front).
Open the door, if you are Mira, run forward and fight the droids, otherwise
fire on the droids to pull them to you, then fade back, destroy them, and
finally recover the mines. One of the droids here has the Access Code for the
Mines. Not useful on this minefield, but there is another big one up ahead
that you might consider using it for.
Up through the next door. You can see a HUGE group of droids up ahead, and
what's that? Yes, they're hiding behind the largest Minefield in the game.
It's densely layered too. Keep Mira in the lead (if possible) and charge
them. That or get close, used ranged weapons to attack them, then pull back
to safe range and switch to melee. (Grenades also work to get their
attention)
Once they've been dispatched, Recover the minefield. Ahead there are two
entrances to the bridge, both mined. Go and Recover both minefields. Enter
the bridge. At the top of the bridge (as seen on the map) is a locked
plasteel container, with the Droid Controller and other shinies.
Getting Off of Goto's Yacht
If you didn't use the power system in the room where you got the Exile, use
the Power System Console on your right. If you don't have the Codes, those
were acquired back in the "Audience" room, where you recovered your main
character. Access primary power systems and switch them all over to
secondary. Then use the Bridge Command Console. Use System Control,
Minefield, Shutdown (500 XP). Then use it again, System Control, Power,
Shutdown. (1000 XP)
You are told that some ships are intercepting Goto's vessel. That's to be
expected now that it's helpless. Time to get back to the Ebon Hawk. Along the
way you'll be attacked by the Bounty Hunters of Nar Shaddaa. There will be
Duros in the Wishbone section just off the bridge. Just past that you'll find
the Twin Suns, whom Atton failed to kill. Well, time to fix that mistake. Be
sure to search them for the Twi'lek Spinning Blades.
Your ship is docked at the very top of the map, which requires you to take
the top exit from this room, then over, up and over. You'll be fighting
through wave after wave of Gands to make it there. (There aren't any in
any other sections of the ship, it's almost as if they just wanted to get in
your way)
Head out! There goes Goto's ship...
Nar Shaddaa Finale
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All that and you didn't find any Jedi Masters, now did you? Mira/Hanharr
knows where he can be found. Then G0-T0 appears and joins your party. Great.
Goto made a droid named G0-T0. You can ask him about the droid, but it's not
a big deal.
Mira/Hanharr quickly find the Jedi for you, and you can talk to him for
answers, or just get some revenge. Ask him all the questions you can, he'll
answer them whether you plan on killing him or just asking him to go to
Dantooine. If you want to fight him, just say "time to die" at any time.
(DSP) Otherwise just ask "what happens now" and follow that to its end. When
he asks if you wish to do battle, tell him to reconsider and he teaches you
a Lightsaber form. After that he's off to Dantooine.
If you're killing him, you just have to get him halfway to learn the form
from a telepathic Kreia. When he dies, you absorb part of his life force to
get +25 Maximum Force Points.
There were a couple quests that couldn't be completed before getting rid of
Goto's ship: Vogga's Fuel, Odis the Pilot and Kahranna's Family getting
passage. You can handle the last two by talking to Fassa. Also, the
Airspeeder is sabotaged, and will never work again. If you didn't repair it
before going to Goto's yacht, you never will.
Assuming you don't have anything left to do here, that's it for Nar Shaddaa.
The only reason to come back later is for your Slaver money (if applicable)
and to upgrade Geeda's shop.
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9. Post Nar Shaddaa Ebon Hawk :PNRSD:
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G0-T0 joins immediately.
G0-T0
Expert Droid -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 10 0 Vitality 66 Computer Use 9 none
DEX 19 +4 Force 0 Stealth 4
CON 16 +3 Defense 20 Awareness 5
INT 16 +3 Fortitude 5 Repair 5
WIS 10 0 Reflex 9 Security 9
CHA 10 0 Will 2 Treat Injury 5
Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Caution, Gearhead & Improved Gearhed,
Improved Power Blast*, Improved Rapid Shot*, Improved Sniper Shot*
Close Combat, Personal Cloaking Shield**
Items: G0T0 Targeting Module, Droid Repulsor, Droid Defense Barrier,
Aratech Droid Oxidizer
* These combat feats come from the G0T0 Targeting Module.
** Allows him to use Stealth without any items
G0-T0 is an Expert Droid like T3, but with his targeting module, can
fight a little better. He also has Stealth, unlike all other droids, but
beyond that he doesn't have T3's skills, nor Hk-47's combat abilities,
making him a below average droid.
I almost never bother leveling up G0-T0 myself, he's the only character
I just hit the Auto-Level Up button for.
We now have a new companion to get Influence with. Mira and Hanharr couldn't
be more different. Hanharr will gain Influence if you are cruel and powerful
around him, whereas Mira just wants to be respected, and doesn't care that
much about good and evil. Mira, when you talk to her, might tease you about
having a relationship with one of the other companions. You can say what you
want to her. The only way to really get her dialogues going is to go to the
Ebon Hawk and talk to her there once (See M2 below) then exit the Ebon Hawk
on Nar Shaddaa and talk to her there.
Also, she only seems to give grenades once. Every time after that, she says
she is giving you grenades, then doesn't.
The best way to get Influence with Mira is to get her to "argue" with you,
but this requires an 11 Awareness. Ask about why she doesn't kill, follow the
Awareness line and she argues with you, then shuts up. Follow up on that, and
watch the Influence fly!
The goal of gaining Influence with her is to turn her to a Jedi. On the Ebon
Hawk ask about her being restless to start things off, this leads to a
discussion on Nar Shaddaa, which reveals her abilities. If you have enough
Influence she can then be taken to Nar Shaddaa to become a Jedi. The dialogue
map for that begins after the next 2 Mira dialogues below.
Mira........................................................................
. M1: Yeah? Something wrong? .
. - Can I get some grenades from you? > gives grenades, or refuses .
. - I was hoping we could talk. > lines where you hit on Mira, then back .
. - There were some questions I wanted to ask. > M2 .
. M2: Shoot. .
. - (If on Ebon Hawk) You seem restless. > M7 .
. - +INF+ (If not on Ebon Hawk, on Nar Shaddaa and after above question) .
. You seem more comfortable here than on the Ebon Hawk. > "why?" > M10 .
. - Were you raised on Nar Shaddaa? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCESS, M16 .
. - Tell me a little about Hanharr. > M3 .
. - Why don't you kill your targets? > M5 .
. M3: Hanharr's only a bounty hunter because that's the closest word for... .
. - What happened between you and Hanharr? > M4 .
. M4: I didn't kill him once. Biggest mistake ever. .
. - What do you mean? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, M27 .
. - I think that deserves an explanation. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back .
. to questions > SUCCESS, M27 .
. M5: I've killed people before. But not if I don't have to. .
. - LSP - [Awareness - 11 REQ] Because all life is connected, and .
. Malachor proved it - you know what the loss of family means, even to .
. your targets. > M26 .
. - But you don't seem to hold back when you're with me. > M6 .
. M6: I know. It's different... I don't know why. .
. - Are you okay? > line > back to questions .
. M7: It's all this traveling. Being trapped in this ship. Everything's... .
. - Well, savor it while it lasts. > M8 .
. - Too quiet? > M8 .
. - This is no smuggler's moon. > M8 .
. M8: I'd rather be doing something. Somewhere with people, activity... .
. - Like Nar Shaddaa? > M9 .
. - > other M2 questions .
. M9: Yeah. It's been a while since I've been off-planet, I guess I got ... .
. - +INF+ How so? > M10 .
. - +INF+ Used to Nar Shaddaa? Is that possible? > M10 .
. - > other M2 questions .
. M10: Well... Nar Shaddaa may be one of the biggest cesspits in the ... .
. - Kreia showed me how to "listen" to Nar Shaddaa once... how all life .
. there is connected, is bound to each other. > M11 .
. - Or the tortured groaning of a trash compactor. > M14 .
. - More like a screaming, broken hyperdrive that carries a vibroblade .
. and hits you up for credits. > M14 .
. - That's not really how I saw Nar Shaddaa. > line > M10 responses .
. - +INF+ An interesting way of putting it. It's true. > M15 .
. - Nar Shaddaa is a cesspit - there's far better places in the galaxy. .
. > M14 .
. M11: Yeah, well, I wouldn't go that far. I'll believe it when I see it. .
. - I could try to show you while you're here, if you want. > INFLUENCE .
. Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, M12 .
. - Maybe one day I'll be able to show you. > same as above .
. M12: [Influence: Success] All right, prove it. You can show me now, if ....
. - All right, I'll take you to the same place Kreia showed me. Follow me..
. > M13 .
. M13: All right. But I doubt you're going to show me anything I don't ... .
. - > This allows you to take her to Nar Shaddaa, Main Area, near the .
. entrance to the Cantina/Pazaak Den to train her > back to questions .
. M14: No arguments here. Still, as long as you accept it, the place ... .
. - > M10 responses again .
. M15: Yeah? Hm. Didn't think I'd hear a Jedi ever refer to Nar Shaddaa... .
. - Life has a certain energy about it. Especially on Nar Shaddaa. .
. > line > M11 .
. - Kreia showed me how to "listen" to Nar Shaddaa once... how all life .
. there is connected, is bound to each other. > M11 .
. M16: Yeah, more or less. I wasn't born there, just ended up there. .
. - What happened to your family? > M17 .
. - Why don't you kill your targets? > M5 .
. M17: Well, the war happened, the first one, against the Mandalorians... .
. - They died in the final battle? > M18 .
. M18: I think so. After Revan crushed the Mandalorians, planets ... .
. - How could you have lost family at Malachor V? There were no .
. colonies - it was a taboo world to the Mandalorians. > M19 .
. - Well, there's a lot you can do. Bounty hunting isn't easy work. > M22 .
. - An odd decision for an orphan. > M22 .
. - Became a bounty hunter? Why, did you want to die? > M22 .
. M19: Take a guess, "Jedi." Only two groups of people would have lost... .
. - You're a Mandalorian? > M20 .
. - So you became a bounty hunter? > M22 .
. M20: As much as any slave becomes a Mandalorian. They took prisoners ... .
. - You were a slave? > M21 .
. - So what is your homeworld? > line > back to M20 .
. M21: When I was young, yeah. They mostly used me to carry ammo packs... .
. - LSP - I regret the loss of life at Malachor. But there was no choice .
. left. > line > M21 responses .
. - You don't sound too happy about it. > line > M21 responses .
. - They had to be stopped. > line > M21 responses .
. - DSP - The Mandalorians deserved to be crushed at Malachor - you .
. should be pleased. > line > M21 responses .
. M22: I'm good at finding people. So I used it to make credits. .
. - Finding people on Nar Shaddaa seems difficult. > M23 .
. - But you won't kill your targets. > M5 .
. M23: Not if you know your target. Usually you get a holo or rough... .
. - Walking? > M24 .
. M24: This is a little hard to explain, but Nar Shaddaa's got a flow... .
. - No, I understand. > M25 .
. - Like sewer pipes? > M25 .
. M25: If you know your target, you can feel them, know where they're ... .
. - > back to questions .
. M26: Oh, do I? Is that it? How you could ever possibly hope to ... .
. - LSP - I have never stopped trying to protect others - even at Malachor.
. - LSP - We did what had to be done, and I carry that decision still. .
. - LSP - If that's what you believe, then you are wrong. .
. - DSP - You're right. And I would glady slaughter the Mandalorians again.
. > all above options lead to Mira getting upset > END .
. M27: [Influence: Success] Do you really want to hear this? .
. - Yes, I'd like to know what happened. > M28 .
. M28: Well, Hanharr and me go way back - in the worst possible way.... .
. - Do you know the name of his homeworld? > line > M28 .
. - Do you know what species he was? > line > M28 .
. - So he was a slave? > M29 .
. M29: Well, not for long. Once off-planet, Hanharr escaped from the ... .
. - [Awareness] Why was he wearing those cuffs? > line > M29 .
. - LSP - It's good he broke free. Nothing deserves to be caged. > M30 .
. - Sounds like Czerka deserved it. > M30 .
. - DSP - If they weren't strong enough to hold him, then they deserved .
. to die. > M30 .
. M30: Well, before you get too proud of him, Hanharr figured Czerka had... .
. - [Intelligence] Weren't they destroyed? > M31 .
. - No, I don't think so. > M31 .
. - I've never heard of them. > M31 .
. M31: Right, that's because Hanharr happened. He makes what happened to... .
. - Who did he work with? > line > M31 .
. - So how do you factor in? > M32 .
. M32: I was prey. And not only did I escape, but I saved his life while... .
. - So he wanted to capture you? > M33 .
. - That seems strange. > M33 .
. M33: I don't pretend to understand it, but among his people, they have... .
. - That doesn't sound too bad. > M34 .
. - A foolish code. His species would die from such debts. > M34 .
. M34: Well, with Hanharr... he can't escape that life debt, it's bred... .
. - What do you mean? > M35 .
. M35: A life debt to Hanharr is a death sentence; he'll hunt you until... .
. - That life debt makes no sense. > questions > M35 .
. - What if someone else saved his life? Would he try to kill them? > .
. > questions > M35 .
. - Any regrets that he's gone? > M36 .
. M36: Oh, I'm glad he's gone... it's like a weight off my shoulders... .
. - Any chance he's still alive? > M37 .
. M37: Trust me, if he was still alive, he'd be chasing us even now... .
. - So how did you save his life? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to .
. questions > SUCCESS, M38 .
. M38: [Influence: Success] Well, as happens on Nar Shaddaa, I made ... .
. - And you proved him wrong? > M39 .
. - What happened? > M39 .
. M39: Well, he tried to box me down in vents beneath the Nar Shaddaa... .
. - Why use mines? > M40 .
. - So he was trying to hem you in with a minefield? > M40 .
. M40: I think he'd hoped to drive me into the mines and let them do the... .
. - [Demolitions] Sending out a jamming signal for proximity mines isn't .
. a simple trick. > line > M41 .
. - But it didn't happen that way. > M41 .
. M41: Like I said, I disarmed the trigger fuses for enough of the mines... .
. - Barely? > M42 .
. M42: He was crawling around, blinded from the flash and the plasma... .
. - LSP - Sometimes it is stronger to spare a life than take it. > END .
. - DSP - You paid the price for your weakness. When the time comes for a .
. similar choice, do not hesitate to kill again. > END .
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If you piss Mira off, you'll have to talk to her again:
Mira........................................................................
. M1: What do you want now? .
. - +INF+ LSP - I wanted to apologize. > M3 .
. - -INF- Back off on the attitude - I don't need it right now. > M2 .
. - -INF- I want you to watch your temper. > M2 .
. - -INF- DSP - Your anger is welcome - but direct that hate at our .
. enemies, or I'll show you what hate is. > M2 .
. M2: Whatever - but you were the one asking all the questions. You ... .
. - +INF+ I deserve an explanation at least. > M4 .
. - > other standard responses .
. M3: Whatever, don't worry about it - it's just a sore subject with me. .
. - +INF+ LSP - Still, I'm sorry you lost your family at Malachor. > M4 .
. - +INF+ Then it doesn't sound like you've dealt with it. > M4 .
. M4: Yeah, well, they're dead. That's how that story ends. .
. - What do you mean? > M5 .
. - > other standar responses .
. M5: There's a lot of lost people out there, scattered ever since the... .
. - +INF+ LSP - All things are connected through the Force. From such .
. acts of kindness, great things may come. > END .
. - -INF- DSP - The galaxy doesn't care for us, and it cannot be healed. .
. > END .
. - -INF- DSP - There is only survival and pain. But they can give .
. strength, as they did for you. > M6 .
. M6: That's what I had wondered. Maybe surviving was what was important... .
. - LSP - If you shut the world out, there is no strength in that. > END .
. - DSP - There is truth in strength and hatred - and little else. > END .
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After the "Kreia" voiceovers, when you train Mira you get the following
dialogue (Also, a LSP if you are Lightsided, and a DSP if you are Dark
Sided when you train her):
Mira........................................................................
. M1: :: This is the Force. And all our choices, from the greatest to ... .
. - LSP - Awaken, Mira. > M2 .
. - Do not turn away - face it. > M2 .
. - Feel these people, this planet all around you. > M2 .
. M2: I can feel this... planet... I can't shut it out. It's louder now... .
. - LSP - You can learn to shut it out. There are Jedi techniques for .
. calming the mind. > extra questions > M3 .
. - LSP - I can train you, Mira. To become something greater - and to .
. protect others. > M3 .
. - This is the potential all Jedi possess. > M3 .
. - DSP - Don't shut it out - endure it, in all its pain, all its .
. misery - and become stronger for it. > M3 .
. M3: Are you going to train me? .
. - LSP - Only if you want me to, Mira. I have shown you the way, I .
. cannot force you down that path. > TRAIN .
. - That is a question for you, not I. > TRAIN .
. - DSP - Yes, you have no choice. You must learn power - and control. .
. > TRAIN .
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If you didn't get Mira, then you got Hanharr. Hanharr, like HK-47 below,
isn't one for niceties, and doesn't respect a softie. He takes a hard hand,
but offers potentially limitless rewards... assuming you cheat, anyway. (see
the Cheats section below) If you don't cheat, the rewards are still pretty
good, anyway. You'll have to get Influence twice before he's worth talking
to (although you can get one positive +INF+ right now). Talk to him and ask
him some questions. The easiest Influence check to pass is the Shackles.
Basically you need to find out that he killed his tribe, call him on that,
and call him on why he hated Mira and killed her.
You can get Hanharr upgraded with +2 STR, +1 CON and -2 INT, and he also
upgrades you with a +1 CON and +1 WIS. Getting the STR for Hanharr gives you
a DSP.
Hanharr.....................................................................
. H1: Then speak them, and leave me be. .
. - I heard you hunt humans. > H2 .
. - Why did you make your home on Nar Shaddaa? > H4 .
. - Why do you wear those shackles? > H6 .
. - You can't have been the only slave Czerka took from your world. .
. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, H15 .
. - Why do you follow me? > H7 .
. - Forget it. I'll be going now. > END .
. H2: There is a thing among our people called a life debt. It is a gift... .
. - How do you hunt us? > H3 .
. - Never mind. I had some other questions for you. > back to questions .
. H3: To defeat them, one must know their ways, use their weapons. Kill ... .
. - -INF- LSP - If you continue to cause that suffering, it will never .
. end. > line > back to questions .
. - -INF- LSP - Not all humans are like the slavers who came to your .
. world - you blame a species for the crimes of a few. > line > back to .
. questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - But still you serve me, as a slave should. You know your .
. place. > back to questions .
. - +INF+ DSP - Any human that cannot stand against you deserves to die. .
. > line > back to questions .
. H4: Because it is like my homeworld, yet the signs of the Shadowlands... .
. - Shadowlands? > H5 .
. H5: The Shadowlands is the place where we now walk. It cannot be... .
. - What do you mean? > line > question > line > back to questions .
. - If you are implying some connection in our exile, there is nothing in .
. common between us. > line > question > line > back to questions .
. H6: They are memories caged upon my wrists. I wear them so I will not... .
. - What do you mean? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, H11 .
. H7: Because the weak must obey the strong... .
. - Does that mean you serve me? > line > H8 .
. - What debt are you talking about? > H9 .
. - So one day will you try to kill me like you did Mira? > line > H7 .
. - Why did you kill Mira? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, HC1 .
. H8: My reasons are my own, but know that I shall one day show ... .
. - As long as you obey me, I couldn't care less. > line > H8 responses .
. - > other H7 responses .
. H9: Among my people, there is a custom, a debt that is a form of... .
. - What kind of debt? > H10 .
. H10: For my people, to stop one from dying, from traveling to the... .
. - Why do you keep life debts if you hate them? > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL,.
. HS1 > SUCCESS, HS4 .
. - You are a fool to let your primitive customs chain your actions. (same.
. as above) .
. - > other H7 responses .
. H11: [Influence: Success] I have never spoken of such things... .
. - Tell me about Czerka. > H12 .
. - What happened with your people? > H12 .
. H12: (line) They taught me their ways, and I saw their truth. .
. - What truth? > H13 .
. H13: They brought with them a new idea, a new way of looking at my... .
. - LSP - What they did to you and your tribe was wrong - life is not a .
. commodity. (-INF- with DISCIPLE??) > follow his dialogue, 500 XP > H14.
. - +INF+ DSP - Yet somehow, they were strong enough to cage you - as it .
. should be. > follow his dialogue, 500 XP > H14 .
. - +INF+ DSP - Perhaps you are weak in that you allowed the shackles to .
. be placed at all. > follow his dialogue, 500 XP > H14 .
. H14: There is a debt that you humans can never repay me. And that is... .
. - You can't have been the only slave Czerka took from your world. > H15 .
. - Never mind. I had some other questions for you. > back to questions .
. - Forget it. I'll be going now. > END .
. H15: [Influence: Success] The rest of my tribe are gone, they do not .
. - (If you got it) Other bounty hunters said you killed your own tribe. .
. > line > back to H15 responses .
. - Wait - you killed your own tribe? > H16 .
. - So you admit your crime. > H16 .
. - If you slaughtered your own people, there is no coming back from such .
. an act. > H16 .
. H16: I did not kill my tribe. I saved them, even though they cast me... .
. - So... you were exiled? > H17 .
. - Why did your people cast you out? > H17 .
. - What happened between you and your tribe? > H17 .
. H17: I was raised as one of my people, within the tribe. But I did not... .
. - And that is why they cast you out? > H18 .
. - You must have done something for them to drive you away. > H18 .
. - They could not have forced you to leave, could they? > H18 .
. H18: It was a choice - my choice to be beneath the trees, to run in the....
. - But what happened to your tribe? > H19 .
. - But you said your tribe was killed, sent away by your hand. Why? > H19.
. - And this was before Czerka arrived on your world? > H19 .
. H19: I was there when the tribe of Czer-ka landed upon our planet... .
. - What did Czerka do when they arrived? > H20 .
. - And they made you slaves? > H20 .
. - They must have struck quickly to overpower your people. > H20 .
. H20: They fell upon my people like kinrath, quick, deadly, armed with... .
. - What did you do? > H21 .
. - So you killed your entire tribe? > H21 .
. - How did you do it? > H21 .
. H21: I... killed the young ones first. Those were the ones most in danger..
. - What happened with Czerka? > H22 .
. - Czerka must have been - displeased with their slaves being killed. .
. > H22 .
. - And so you killed your tribe, rather than let slavers have them. > H22.
. H22: When the tribe of Czer-ka saw what had been done, they took me... .
. - So you slaughtered your entire tribe, killed them. > H23 .
. - If you killed them to spare them, then you cheapened them. > H23 .
. H23: They are not dead. Where I sent them, they are free... .
. - You are nothing more than an animal, Hanharr. > 500 XP > H24 .
. - And how do you figure that? > 500 XP > H24 .
. - As long as you justify murdering your own, then fine. > 500 XP > H24 .
. H24: You are of the tribe of the Jeedai. I have heard of your weak code....
. - -INF- LSP - For all the evil you have done, Hanharr, there is hope of .
. redemption for you. > line > H25 .
. - -INF- LSP - Even if your tribe cannot forgive you, I will. > line .
. > H25 .
. - +INF+ DSP - You lessen an act of slaughter by thinking it was .
. salvation. > line > H25 .
. - +INF+ DSP - The only truth is that you killed your tribe because they .
. were weak - which is what they deserved. > line > H25 .
. H25: Yet I am trapped here with you, in this cage, surrounded by the... .
. - What you did to your people was madness - yet there was strength in .
. it. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, H26 .
. - What you did to your own tribe, Hanharr - it was wrong. > INFLUENCE .
. Check > FAIL, back to questions > SUCCESS, H26 .
. H26: [Influence: Success] You think to know my actions, human? Perhaps... .
. - What do you know of that? > H27 .
. - Be silent - you know nothing of what occurred. > H27 .
. - No one can ever know what happened at Malachor - least of all you. .
. > H27 .
. H27: I know enough. Enough to smell how weak you are, how broken such... .
. - -INF- LSP - And I regret every death, Jedi and Mandalorian, to this .
. day. > You GAIN +1 WIS, 1000 XP > END .
. - +INF+ DSP - If you think such deaths bother me, they do not. .
. > You GAIN +1 WIS, 1000 XP > END .
. - +INF+ DSP - Everyone at Malachor died because they had to - and I .
. would destroy them all again, gladly. > You GAIN +1 WIS, 1000 XP .
. > END .
. HS1: [Influence: Failure] If I give up everything of my people, then... .
. - But to adhere to the codes of your people - that is only another form .
. of slavery. > HS2 .
. - Then you shall always be prey. > HS2 .
. HS2: It is what must be. .
. - All you need to do is give them up. > HS3 .
. HS3: That... I cannot do. .
. - Then you shall always be prey, Hanharr. You are your own prey, and .
. such things are weakness. > INFLUENCE Check > FAIL, back to questions .
. > SUCCESS, HS4 .
. HS4: [Influence: Success] To give up everything of my people... .
. - And to face such oblivion is strength. > HS5 .
. - You are already damned, beast. It only requires that you face it. .
. > HS5 .
. HS5: :: Silence :: .
. - Then there is nothing keeping you here. > HS6 .
. - So at last you are free to do what you wish. > HS6 .
. - Then walk my path, and realize that nothing should keep you tied to .
. this galaxy or others. > HS6 .
. HS6: [You have broken Hanharr fully into your service, making him .
. stronger. He has gained +2 Strength and lost -2 Intelligence.] .
. - 1000 XP, DSP > END .
. HC1: [Influence: Success] Because I was the stronger. She was prey. .
. - So she saved your life once? > HC2 .
. - You took her life - because she didn't take yours? > HC2 .
. HC2: She showed me mercy, and that I could not bear. To feel such, from....
. - So you would rather she have killed you? > line > HC3 .
. - She spared you, to show she was stronger? > line > HC3 .
. HC3: And that is why she had to die. .
. - [Awareness] I don't believe you. It is not the hunt that drives you. .
. > different line > HC4 .
. - She did not make you a slave - instead, she denied you freedom, death..
. > HC4 .
. HC4: You are wrong, human - those are not my words, nor the truth. .
. - I think you wanted her to kill you, to break you. To end your life. .
. > HC5 .
. HC5: I do not chase death, I chase prey. .
. - You have spoken of your tribe, Hanharr, and I think you wished to .
. join them. > HC6 .
. HC6: My tribe is no more - my people are no more, because of humans! .
. - Your people are no more because you killed them, Hanharr. Not humans. .
. > HC7 .
. - She denied you death. And made you walk in this place you hate even .
. longer, because now you owed her your life. > HC7 .
. - But you said they exist, but not here. And you wished to join them. .
. > HC7 .
. HC7: I killed them to save them! I have told you this! .
. - And I think that thought of slaying them hunts you. And that is why .
. you wanted her to kill you. > HC8 .
. - Those words of desperation stink of desperation - and lies. > HC8 .
. - All I have heard are your words, not the truth. And you know it. > HC8.
. HC8: I... I see your eyes... hear your words, human. And your words... .
. - Walk with me, Hanharr, and I promise I shall never spare your life, .
. or deny you the death you seek. > 1000 XP > HC9 .
. - If you wish to die, then let it be done in a way that matters - .
. saving others. > 1000 XP > HC9 .
. HC9: That is the only pledge I have heard from a human that I will accept..
. - That is a pledge I will accept. > HC10 .
. - Very well - let this be all that is between us. > HC10 .
. - I swear the same - for now, until the end of our journey. > HC10 .
. HC10: [You and Hanharr have formed a new bond, both of you gaining +1 .
. Constitution.] .
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Talk to Kreia on the Ebon Hawk, and a new conversation topic comes up, asking
about Hanharr's strength and power. If you follow it through using answers
such as "Yes I want his power," "Yes I feel it, vibrating, so primal" as well
as other answers on the same vein, when you finish the conversation with
Kreia you will gain +2 STR and +1 CON for understanding his primal nature,
which, I think you will agree, is a really nice bonus to have.
(from Gary Smith)
You also have the final HK pieces, so head to the small storage room and put
him back together. (1000 XP) (The two pieces you got were the piece from
Kovin and the piece from the HK-50s at Vogga's Warehouse) He fires up and
talks to you. HK, the original, likes violence and manipulation. He is, after
all, an assassin droid who enjoys his work. There's nothing so satisfying, to
him, as blasting away a "meatbag." The initial conversation has no
implications, so just follow it along.
HK-47
Combat Droid -- Level 6
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 16 +3 Vitality 72 Demolitions 5 none
DEX 16 +3 Force 0 Awareness 5
CON 10 0 Defense 19 Repair 6
INT 14 +2 Fortitude 5
WIS 12 +1 Reflex 5
CHA 10 0 Will 3
Feats: Power Blast, Weapon Focus: Blaster Rifle, Toughness, Assassin
Protocols*
Items: Blaster Rifle
* 20% chance for extra damage
HK-47 can do NO melee combat, so he's stuck using blasters. If you are
playing a Dark Side character, HK has the best "evil" reactions of
anyone. Makes it worth taking him along just for that. If you keep him
with the best Rifle/Repeater you have, and keep that upgraded, he can
actually start to kill enemies before your Jedi can even close the
distance with Lightsabers.
HK does NOT get a lot of feats, so even though he can take a lot of
different types of feats, you need to really limit him to one type of
feats for him to be effective. If you keep him ranged, take Close Combat
right away, then Weapon Specialization and then just follow the Precise
Shot tree. Also keep up on Power Blast, which is more effective for
ranged weapons than Power Attack is for lightsabers.
Almost all things that gain you Influence with HK-47 will also gain you
Dark Side Points (DSP). There are some good rewards for gaining Influence
with him. So, you may want to think about taking the Dark Side hit, in order
to advance with him. If you get him early enough, there will be plenty of
opportunities to get your Light Side Mastery back. If you do Nar Shaddaa last
thus getting HK last, then you probably won't even be able to get enough
Influence with him, so why try.
Then talk to him again. If you are Dark Side, you get:
HK-47.......................................................................
. HK1: Statement: Master, I must say it is a pleasure to be working side... .
. - And why is that? > HK2 .
. - If you have a long-winded explanation for why, indulge me. > HK2 .
. - Forget it. I had questions I wanted to ask you. > out to questions .
. - I've heard enough, I'll be going now. > END .
. HK2: Statement: Just when I believe my photoreceptors have recorded ... .
. - I am not here to entertain you, droid. > HK3 .
. - +INF+ DSP - Stick with me - you'll pick up a few things. > END .
. - -INF- LSP - I'm not proud of my actions, and I don't want you doing .
. the same. > END .
. HK3: Flattery: It is not mere entertainment, master. It is art. .
. - +INF+ DSP - It is good you are recording my cruelties - you may need .
. to know how to use them yourself in the future. > END .
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If you are Light Side, you get:
HK-47.......................................................................
. HK1: Statement: Master, if you could indulge me for a moment, I must... .
. - And how is that? > HK2 .
. - Forget it. I had questions I wanted to ask you. > out to questions .
. - I've heard enough, I'll be going now. > END .
. HK2: Statement: Well, all your behavior up to this point suggests ... .
. - -INF- LSP - I am not proud of what I did during the Wars - and I do .
. not wish to discuss it. > HK3 .
. - +INF+ DSP - They weren't accidents - I did them on purpose and would .
. do them again, gladly. Why do you want to know? > HK5 .
. HK3: Statement: I suspected as much, master. There are few who would ... .
. - Are you trying to provoke me? > HK4 .
. HK4: Answer: Why no, master. I have no intention of attacking you or ... .
. - Why did you ask me about the Mandalorian Wars? > HK5 .
. HK5: Answer: Why, because your actions then and now are related and I... .
. - What do you mean? > HK6 .
. HK6: Statement: Sometimes, master, it is difficult for meatbags to ... .
. - How is that? > HK8 .
. - That's a very human perspective. > line > HK7 .
. - If you're trying to justify your programming, you're not doing a good .
. job. > line > HK6 .
. HK8: Statement: Why, your own life, master. Your single life changed... .
. - Don't attempt to justify my actions - or yours. > line > END .
. - The Mandalorians deserved it, that is all. > END .
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Then there's the normal dialogue, which you get if you aren't Light or Dark,
and any other time you talk to him.
Note: When you ask HK-47 about the HK droids coming after you, it does seem
like you can use the Sonic Sensor to track them back to their hidden
factory. However, this was cut, leaving this dialogue option largely
useless. There is only one particular reason to do it, eventually
HK tells you that some people think of droids as furniture, and with
this line to gain Influence with T3, who apparently was listening in:
> +INF+ Those are typical droid duties, but it doesn't mean they
should be treated as furniture.
Also, you CANNOT gain Influence with HK by talking to him, you only
gain that by doing various malicious things, such as killing innocent
and random civilians, and answering his above dialogue (light or
dark) in the proper way.
When you do get Influence with him (more than just from the dialogue
above) talk to him about his previous Master to get him to start
revealing things. Your eventual goal is to have him teach you how
to kill Jedi.
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10. Onderon / Dxun :ONDXN:
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If this is your first planet, welcome back to the walkthrough. If it's not
(and it wouldn't be if you followed my order), then you're right where I
expect you to be. If this is your first planet, you'll be building your
lightsaber on the Dxun surface. You already got one piece from
Czerka/Ithorians, and can get the second from Visas on your ship. You should
then find the third piece just around in the jungle.
Your ship is fired on by Onderonian fighters, and you get the option to
"Fight Back" if you want, but this just leads to a mini-game where you have
to shoot out the fighters. Start firing immediately, you can sometimes get
one or two right away (though not so many as you could get in the first game)
then just follow the radar at the bottom to hit all the targets. Get them
before the meter on the bottom right runs out, but this isn't that difficult.
(600 XP for shooting the ships)
Welcome to Dxun, the moon of Onderon. Once again, you've been shot down.
Kreia indicates that there is an outpost here you can get to, and forces
Atton to stay behind and guard the ship.
Influences in Dxun. Most are on the same action, two on light, two on dark.
Remember that only one character can react to any one situation:
Handmaiden (Mandalorian Permacrete)
Bao-Dur (Mandalorian Permacrete)
HK-47 (Mandalorian Permacrete)
Mira (Bounty Hunters)
Hanharr (Mandalorian Permacrete)
Dxun Jungle, Ebon Hawk Area
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Let's head out. Be sure that Mira is with you, if you have her, as you can
get an easy Influence with her shortly. If you're light side, also take
Bao-Dur or Handmaiden, whichever you want influence with; and if you're
Dark Side take Hanharr or HK-47 with you.
Note: Not a big deal yet, but soon it will be. Check all corpses for
Remains. That means waiting about 4 seconds after the enemy dies to
see if anything appears. Even monsters can carry credits, and some
have important items on them.
Go up either path, they go to the same place. Once the paths connect, you'll
see some Cannoks beating up another creature. You're on the right path.
Keep going.
Atton gives you a message that someone else has landed nearby.
Take the path to your right (map, down) to an ancient crashed ship. Fight to
clear it out. Go around the ship to find some Salveagable Parts, but you can
also go under the ship for more Salveagable Parts and a Rusted Computer Port.
Repair it (base: 4 parts) (315 XP). Now access the System Commands and use
[Computer] on it (base: 3 spikes) to repair the core. This brings the droids
back online. (315 XP) At this point you can overload the droid power reactor
(base: 5 spikes), but that isn't all you can do.
Note: Remember that "base" cost is for someone with no repair/computer
skill and that for every 4 points you have, you reduce the base cost
by 1.
Leave, and go up the other path. Use the droid, and repair it and its systems
(base: 1 part to reactivate, 4 for weaponry, 4 for targeting, 5 for shields,
and 6 for patrol mode) (1365 XP). The droid will then rush forward and attack
your enemies for you. These droids are pretty good at killing Cannoks, and
there's no risk for you. But they won't go very far.
Head up the path. It widens out to a large open area. There's a Skeletal
Corpse to your right, and another busted droid in the center. Repair it and
let it run. Keep going up the path.
Atton sends another Comms message, but he promises that to be the last one.
Keep going. You'll see them long before they see you.
The Duros Have Landed
There's one last remote droid before you reach the wreckage. Get that up and
running. Then ahead and let the Duros give their speech. If you have Mira
with you, she'll have an exchange with them. To gain Influence, say:
> Who are you?
> You really think you can take on Mira? Good luck, she's a real bounty
hunter. +INF+
This ends in battle anyway. If you're lucky all your remote droids will have
come up with you. If you're not lucky, well, you still have the most recent
one repaired.
Pressing On
We want to go left (map left) along the wreckage of their ship first. Get the
shinies in the plasteel container, then up the path. There's some Wreckage
with shinies up here, with a Skeletal Corpse just behind that. Get the stuff,
then back down, and up the next path on the other side.
Dxun Jungle, Main Area
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/--
/ R /
----- MS - Mandalorian Sentries
----- ____ C - Mandalorian Cache
--- - Z - Zakkeg
| C | ---- R - Lost Mandalorian
-- | To Secret | TC - Sealed Cache, Use
| ----- Base /--- | | Thorium Charges from
| --------| |B | | | Dantooine or Korriban
--/ -----| | --. | | K - Kelborn
-. / | | | | '-| | S1 - Onderon Scouts
/ | | / / | |'-. S2 - Onderon Scouts 2
| | / / / / / / '-- B - Boma, for Beast Trick
/ / | | | |
/---/ / / / | | | | |
/ /---/ | | - |
| / ---- ------| |- / /| |
| | / __ / --- | | / / | |
/ /_/ / | --/ MS / | | | |
| / / / ---|| / /
| |-/ / -- |--------/ / /
| | / / |
/ / | |
|- / | | ---
S2| | K | / / --- |
/ / - / |_--TC- | |--
| | | | / |
| | | | / |--____/ / /--/
| | / / / --- /
---------/S1/ | | / ---/
--- -------/ Entance | |
| | -----
--- Z |
| |
-----
After a quick cutscene with Colonel Tobin (the guy who shot you down), you
get control again.
Just up the path, and off to the right is a sealed door, with a Mandalorian
corpse near it. This door will only open with Thorium Charges, and there are
only two places to get that: Korriban and Dantooine (from Akkere). If you
don't have any Thorium, you can't open the door. If you do have it, go up
to the door and use it, blow the door, then check inside for the containers
full of swag.
Back on the path and head up. Not far from here, the path opens out to a
clearing, and you meet up with more Mandalorians. I can save you the trouble,
you'll eventually go with them. However, if you absolutely want to get into
a fight, go ahead and keep antagonizing them, you get a DSP and a battle.
The Mandalorians are actually fairly tough, but tend towards a standard
Ranged First > Melee Second attitude. Easily defeated with Energy Resistance.
But after the battle, the results are the same, and you're taken to meet
with Mandalore. (doesn't he just seem familiar, especially that voice?)
Mandalore
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Mandalore will help you get to Onderon if you impress him. He says that you
should just find ways to "make yourself useful" around camp. But he will, if
pressed, mention the weapon's caches, such as the one we went by earlier.
Once you've impressed him, he'll take you to Onderon. Sounds simple. (250 XP)
You can't get to Mandalore's secret room yet, but you can later, so ignore
it. Leave his room.
There are a number of ways to impress Mandalore, and since it's all worth
XP and credits, you should do all of them:
Blow the Weapons Cache
Rescue the Mandalorian
Win in the Battle Circle
Help Kelborn Wipe out the Intruders
Kill the Zakkeg
Repair the Navigational Telemetry
Note: If you want to return to your ship, for any reason, talk to the
Mandalorian Guide, who will take you right there (and back again
later).
These are all covered as SIDEQUESTS below. Once you've completed any one of
these, return to Mandalore, and he'll take you (plus himself, plus one other)
out to Onderon. Who you choose to take is important, as there are many good
Influence decisions on Onderon and you don't go there again (well, you do,
but Onderon is vastly different the second time). Good people to take are
Mira (if you're Light side) or HK-47/Hanharr (if you're Dark Side).
When you return to Mandalore, he gives you a random lightsaber, and 350 XP.
After a Kreia cutscene, and a Sith Assassin attack (that Mandalore may pull
you out from before it is over; also don't forget the lower camp), it's off
to Onderon.
Note: There is a way to exploit this fight into an infinite XP situation.
So long as you avoid the Sith Assassins near Mandalore, you can do
it. See the Cheats section for more information.
SIDEQUEST: Build your Own Lightsaber
If you haven't built a lightsaber yet, when you kill a Cannok, there is a
random chance that he'll have the final part you need. Then talk to Bao-Dur
to build your lightsaber.
If you already have a lightsaber you get a random lightsaber upgrade part.
SIDEQUEST: Repair the Navigational Telemetry
Talk to Zuka, who is near the camp entrance, and just across from
Mandalore's room. He immediately blows out his system. Tell him that you
will help him, and he says that if you can he'll put a good word in with
Mandalore for you. Good. Beyond simply repairing the two systems (the
wires, and the dish at the top of the camp) he also needs a Phase Pulse
Converter, which is found in the Remains of Cannoks in the jungle main
area.
First, go to the "Broken Wires" and repair them (base: 4 parts). You don't
have to do this yourself, you can have a party member do it. (315 XP)
Next go up to the upper camp, then into the telemetry room (up the ramp
and to the room with the big glowing blue computer). Use the telemetry
computer and [Computer] Reprogram it (base: 8 spikes). (525 XP)
When the telemetry and wires are fixed, return to Zuka for a reward:
250 XP, Computer Spike, Parts and a promise to tell Mandalore that you
helped.
Next out in the Dxun jungle, kill all the Cannoks and search them for the
three Phase Pulse parts you need. (100 XP each part found) Yes, you must
kill them all (at least, until you find what you're looking for), then go
back to Zuka. If you say: "I'm just glad I could help out" you get a LSP.
If you refuse his reward you get another LSP. (450 XP, components, 1000
credits, unless you refused it)
SIDEQUEST: Kill the Zakkeg
Near the exit to camp, find the Red Mandalorian Guard Captain and talk to
him. Ask about the "larger beasts" to learn of the Zakkeg. Tell him that
you'll kill it to pick up the quest.
Exit the base, then at the sentry camp turn left (map right) and follow
this path to the end. At the T intersection turn right (map down) and
follow this, it turns (map left) keep going. You'll get a Vision of things
to come. Keep going. If you got Davrel to join you (from the Battle Circle)
he'll appear right before you reach the clearing. Attack!
Search it to get the Zakkeg ear. There are also a couple skeletal corpses
behind it with some shinies. Return to the guard captain to get your
reward: 500 XP, random item.
SIDEQUEST: Find the Missing Mandalorian
Talk to Xarga in the lower combat circle, just across from Mandalore's
room. He will tell you to find Kumus, a missing scout, in the jungle. But
he really just wants the stuff he had.
You find him by turning left at the sentry camp (map right), then taking
the turn to your left (map up), follow that as it turns, then take the
next turn to your left (map up again). This winds around and up to a ridge
with a Mandalorian on top. He got stuck there when he ran out of Ammo.
(100 XP for finding him)
Listen to his story, then either agree to help him or not. You can ask for
a reward, then either [Force Persuade] or [Persuade] him to give one to
you. If you tell him that he can "rot up there" you earn a DSP. Then your
major decision is whether to go around the ridge and clear out the
monsters, or to use the Permacrete detonator and blow him up. (DSP, HK-47
and Hanharr influence gains) If you help him out, you can then kill him
(DSP), or accept his thanks and send him on his way. (LSP, Handmaiden,
Bao-Dur, Disciple influence gains) (250 XP for dealing with him)
You can detonate the Permacrete Detonator after that if you want, but it
doesn't really do anything.
Back in the Base, if you saved Kumus and asked for a reward, you can get
that from him now (1000 credits), then talk to Xarga for your reward. If
you don't tell him about what happened you get (LSP, 750 XP, random item),
but if you do tell him about the Cannoks you get the same, but with a DSP
instead of the Light Side Point.
If you killed Kumus, you can return to Xarga and tell him about it, but
since you couldn't recover anything, he gives you nothing.
SIDEQUEST: Win in the Battle Circle
Up at the top part of the camp is the Battle Circle. To participate, talk
to the Mandalorian Sergeant. Battles are one-on-one, and have rules
associated with them. Ask about the battle circle, then say you want to
participate.
Fight 1 - Davrel - No weapons, no force powers (100 XP)**
Fight 2 - Kex - You set the rules (150 XP)
Fight 3 - Tagren - No weapons, no force powers (200 XP)
**Note: After beating Davrel, you'll find him waiting for you outside of
camp with the Sentries. He will attack you. You can fight him,
refuse, or tell him about the Zakkeg and have him help you kill
that.
Tip: Although you can't use force powers (and any powers you use will be
removed), Kreia can. Have her buff up, and you get those benefits
as well.
After that, you need to prove yourself to a Champion, which you can only
gain by solving the "Help Kelborn Wipe Out the Intruders" SIDEQUEST below.
Fight 4 - Kelborn - Dueling Vibroblade, no force, no lightsabers (250 XP)
Fight 5 - Bralor - No rules (750 XP)
Once all that is done, you're given an item (I got a Tehk'la blade) and you
are declared the Champion. Mandlore will be impressed.
SIDEQUEST: Help Kelborn Wipe Out the Intruders
From the Mandalorian sentries, turn right (map left) and take that path,
follow it down, ignoring the two turns, and you'll see Kelborn. (listed on
the map as "Mandalorian Scout") He has killed a scout from Onderon, and
wants your help in making sure that none of them survive. There is no
Light/Dark option here, just help him (or you can't finish the Battle
Circle). He says that he'll go east if you cover west. Sounds good.
Just follow this path immediately down. In the first clearing, you'll see a
cutscene, then the Onderon soldiers (sent by our good friend, the Colonel)
attack you. (150 XP) There's a skeletal corpse in that small path down.
Keep going on the pathway, it curves around and back up. Just around the
turn you'll find the second group. Interestingly, you can actually attack
here before the cutscene and your group will continue firing during it.
(150 XP) Kill the beasts and the scouts. When all the scouts are dead, you
get another 150 XP.
Back to Kelborn to clear this quest. Before he leaves he offers to fight
you in the battle circle (700 XP).
SIDEQUEST: Blow the Weapon's Cache
You will find the Permacrete Detonator by exiting the camp, taking a right
turn (map left), then another right turn (map up), follow this around, then
one more right turn (map up) to a clearing. This should put you in the
upper left corner of the map. When you hit the Detonator, you get rushed
by monsters, so be ready, and hit it. (150 XP) Kill the beasts, search the
remains, and go in the Cache. There's a mine here.
Note: If you want to change the Random items you'll get inside, save it
outside, and if you're disappointed (or just curious) you can
reload.
Inside there are mines and droids everywhere. The mines are easy enough to
deal with, just recover them.
Find the Construction Droid Foreman, use, then Examine to find the Datapad.
Then, if your main character has come Computer Use skill, you can use the
Droid Foreman again to control all the droids. This one doesn't care who
uses the thing, only your main character's skills are used. Also, this is
pointless, the commands allow you to make them follow you, then you can
detonate them ("final resort"), but you get no XP for this.
Failing that, you can select Bash it, on any droid. This makes them all
go hostile, but it isn't that difficult a battle, especially if you have
Lightning Storm, or Destroy Droid as a power.
Once the droids are dealt with, search all the containers here for loot.
SIDEQUEST: Learn Beast Trick
If you take a left turn (map right) from the sentries, you can go up, then
up again to find a Boma. Kreia pops in your head (if she's not in your
party) to teach you Beast Trick, which nearly works. In the end, it
attacks, but you learn Beast Trick, probably the most useless power. This
does get you a bonus to your Maximum Force Points.
Onderon Port
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Influences: Mira (Bounty Hunter Attack, Side with Anda)
HK-47 (Port Guard Captain, Cantina Attack)
Hanharr (Cantina Attack)
Visas (Cantina Attack, Side with Anda, Side with Vaklu)
Atton (Port Guard Captain, Starport Visa)
Bao-Dur (Starport Visa)
G0-T0 (Droid Merchant)
Kreia (Port Guard Captain, Side with Anda)
Welcome to beautiful Onderon, this time without getting shot at. Hurrah.
Watch a cutscene with our Jedi Master. Start plotting your...um... revenge
(or not, you Jedi, you). Mandalore is now in the group.
Note: You can switch out the other party member all you want, but you are
stuck with Mandalore.
Mandalore
Soldier -- Level 5
Stats Skills Powers
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STR 15 +2 Vitality 65 Stealth 2 none
DEX 12 0* Force 0 Awareness 5
CON 15 +2 Defense 23 Persuade 2**
INT 12 +1 Fortitude 6 Treat Injury 9
WIS 12 +1 Reflex 2
CHA 12 +1 Will 2
Feats: Improved Power Blast, Weapon Focus & Specialization: Blaster
Rifle, Toughness, Close Combat, Mandalorian Courage***, Impant
Switching%
Items:
* Mandalore has a +1 DEX bonus, but can't use it for DEF due to his armor
** Mandalore has 2 in Persuade, but can't raise it further
*** Extra +2 DEF every 6 levels, immune to Fear and Horror
% Allows +4 STR, DEX or CON, also has a Regeneration Implant
Mandalore's Impant Switching is found in the same sub-menu as Jedi
Force Powers, and will give one of the above bonuses, depending on which
one is selected.
Mandalore cannot become a Jedi, and has no major upgrades available, so
there's no particular reason to gain Influence with him. Which is just as
well since there aren't many places to Influence him anyway.
You can keep working on Blaster Rifles if you want, by adding Improved
Close Combat, and working the Precise Shot tree. Unlike HK-47, he gains
a feat every other level, and will easily get enough feats to be a power
house. Or you can switch him to melee and teach him the values of
Vibroblades. Either is fine, but if you're a Lightsaber fighter, it's
better if someone stays back and shoots things, rather than run up with
you, getting in your way.
Since he is always going to be wearing the same armor, increasing DEX
won't gain you DEF, but you still get the bonus to hit. Don't increase
STR unless you want to use melee weapons. The safe bet is CON until you
get 18 (for implants), then DEX for the attack.
Once he's leveled up, equipped up and ready to go, head out. You get
confronted by a guard. He tells you about the situation here, then gives you
your PRICELESS (actually these things have very specific prices) Starport
Visa. You'll be finding two more of these, with the ability to sell it to one
of four different people later. Keep that in mind.
Around town you'll find News Hologram stations. These have no real purpose,
but do show you what's going on around Onderon.
Of note here is Hargar, a merchant who isn't allowed inside. You can check
out his goods.
At the other end of the dock are several beast cages, and a "Beast Rider,"
whom you can talk to. Whatever you say to him, after you walk away, his
Boma will get loose and attack you. When you talk to him afterwards, he will
offer you credits. If you try to refuse the credits, you get a LSP (and 500
credits). No, you can't use Beast Trick to tame it again, I know what you
were thinking. You can also ask for more credits. (1000 credits)
Over to the side is the entrance to Iziz, and the guard captain who guards
it. Now, if you just answer his questions normally, nothing bad nor good
happens to you. You go through fine. However, you can handle this in other
ways. A successful [Persuade] gets you through without the 2 extra questions.
The [Force Persuade] option, is the real treasure here. With either HK-47,
or Kreia you can gain Influence when they react. (Everyone actually
reacts, but only they can gain Influence) Say one of these:
Kreia:
> A valid point, Kreia. But the need for discretion outweighed the risks.
+INF+
HK-47:
> His little mind has been dealt with. He isn't our concern any more.
+INF+
> It's inside a city, HK, otherwise... +INF+
Follow that up with whatever you want, then head in to the Iziz Merchant
Quarter.
Iziz Merchant Quarter
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Before you take ONE STEP, decide right now who you will support. The Queen or
the General. Light Side or Dark Side. This comes up right away, so decide
now. The "point of no return" comes much later, but it makes some
differences.
Journalism = Spying
Right after entering, a group of Vaklu soldiers is hassling a journalist who
they say doesn't support them, and is a Republic Spy. If you want to side
with the Queen, ask to see a Warrant, then ask to see proof of any sort.
Either use Awareness, Force Persuade, or Persuade (automatic success) to get
rid of them. (LSP) Just not getting involved is Neutral. If you're siding
with Vaklu, and want the really dark option...
Dark Path > What's going on?
> Do you think questioning is necessary? He's obviously "guilty."
Then, either
> 2xDSP - If he tried to escape...
OR
> 3xDSP - I'm sure this self-righteous mudlicker could meet with an
accident along the way.
Beggars and Choosers
The next few people you meet on the street beg you for a Open Starport Visa.
This differs from yours in that anyone can use it, while only you can use
yours. Simple. This is dealt with in the SIDEQUEST: Starport Visas below.
Although if you tell Teryln "That's your problem, not mine. Get out of my
way." you get a DSP.
Around the bend, you'll see Captain Riiken, who is important later, but not
so much right now. Beyond that is Gegorran a merchant, be sure to buy
everything you want from him, he won't be around forever, and then farther
up...
The Crowds, Part One
Just before you can turn again to leave this district, you get caught up in
a crowd of people who want to oust the Queen. How you respond to this affects
how things go for the rest of this planet. In fact, this decision seems to
be the one that decides the fate of the entire system. Go with the crowd, and
you start to undermine the queen. Go against the crowd and you start to
support the queen. If you want to support Vaklu, say:
The Queen should listen to the will of her people.
The other lines lead to you supporting the Queen. For now the crowd isn't
doing anything.
Anda (or Not)
If you sided with Vaklu, you'll be approached by a man to go talk to Anda.
Anda is just behind the crowd, and off to the side. Talk to her. Technically
you don't need to get the message to talk to Anda, you just have to side with
Vaklu at least once, and never have sided with the Queen. This is covered in
the SIDEQUEST: Remove the Captains below.
If you didn't side with Anda, keep going.
Politics
You'll find a Devaronian and a Twi'lek arguing politics, and you'll be
pulled into their argument. Yet another choice between the Queen and Vaklu.
They want to know where you stand, and after asking them some questions about
the two, you have to respond. If you side with the Queen, you lose -INF- with
Visas, but can get some back by saying:
> Do not judge solely be what is, but by what it may become. Experience can
be gained, integrity is something innate. +INF+
Siding with Vaklu, or even stating that you go where you are best suited,
gains you +INF+ with Visas. This dialogue has no effect on which side you
actually take, so you can what you want.
Beyond that, to your right, is a guarded entrance, that is only useful if
you are following Anda's quests (see below), or later when you have to get
to the palace. But that is later. For now, forward.
SIDEQUEST: The Open Starport Visa Search
You come across 2 extra visas in your time on Onderon. The first from the
first bounty hunter stupid enough to attack you. The second you get when
you have Dhagon out of jail and he wants his Discs back from the gang in
the Cantina, you find it on someone's Remains. The first visa will
require that you get Kiph the Slicer to hack it to make it an "open" visa.
The second is completely open. To get Kiph to slice it, talk to Bahima to
learn that he can, then go talk to Kiph and have him do his thing.
Who you give it to, depends on what you want out of it:
Light Side: Gormo, Xaart, Family by Entrance
Neutral: Guy by Entrance
Dark Side: Sakarie
Here are the rewards of each person:
Gormo - 300 XP plus either
500 Credits (or refuse them for...)
LSP
Xaart - 300 XP, LSP, +INF+ with Handmaiden, Disciple or Bao-Dur
Terlyn - 700 XP, LSP, +INF+ with Handmaiden, Disciple or Visas (but only
if you say: "The darkness clouds your mind's eye, Visas.
Compassion can create problems, but it is a source of greater
strength.")
Tolas - 2000 credits, or [Force Persuade] / [Persuade] for 3000
Sakarie - 2xDSP - 300 XP, +INF+ with Hanharr or G0-T0, plus one of...
Rodian Death Blade
5000 Credits
Qixoni Crystal (powerful, but Dark Side only, unless the "NAME"
Crystal is also in the Lightsaber)
SIDEQUEST: Remove the Captains
If you sided with Vaklu anywhere here, you can get this quest from Anda.
She just wants you to remove some Royalists from their posts, three
captains: Gelesi, Bostuco and Riiken. She needs them gone, and it doesn't
matter how, alive dead, she doesn't care. She offers you the pretty sum of
2500 credits EACH, plus the support of Vaklu followers everywhere. Assuming
you're siding with Vaklu, take her up on it.
Several companions will react here: Visas, Mira, Kreia and Mandalore, but
only one can react. To gain +INF+ you have to say the right thing:
Visas: +INF+ I agree with you, I have no interest in helping their Queen.
Kreia: +INF+ I may see where this quest of hers leads us.
Mira: +INF+ I agree, the credits are hard to ignore.
Mandalore: +INF+ I agree, Vaklu has a lot more to offer us.
She gives you the Iziz Military Security Card, which allows us to use the
Security Terminals in the city. The closest one is just behind the Crowd.
Bostuco - He's the captain of the Sky Ramp, which is just over past Anda,
and near the arguing aliens. There are a couple ways to remove
him from his post. The first one is to use a Security Terminal
(NOT the one next to him, the one by the Crowd is better), check
the Camera near the Sky Ramp, then Overload the power to kill
him. (150 XP, DSP)
If you have Affect Mind, you can also go talk to him directly.
The path:
> Who are you?
> Could you tell me about the Wall?
> Why aren't you on the Wall any more?
> You don't sound too pleased about your post.
> [Force Persuade] Tell me your feelings. (Persuade also works)
> If you're that unhappy, you should request to be reassigned
to the Wall.
> [Force Persuade] You should request reassignment.
Immediately.
Doing it that way also gets you 150 XP. You can still use a
Security Terminal to overload the power there, you won't get any
more XP, but you still get the DSP.
Riiken - He's the captain near the Air Defense Tower closer to the
starport in the Merchant area. He's useful in clearing Dhagon
later, but you can deal with him whenever. Two ways to deal with
Riiken as well.
First you can go talk to him. This REQUIRES Dominate Mind, the
Persuade option will not work, and having just Affect Mind isn't
enough. Here's the path:
> There are a lot of soldiers around.
> Could you tell me about the troubles?
> Why don't you tell me what you really think?
> [Force Persuade] The urge to speak your mind must be
overpowering. Say what you really mean.
For getting rid of him, you get 150 XP. This doesn't change the
Dhagon Ghent section, you still go through Riiken to free him.
The second method requires that you solve the Dhagon Ghent case
first. Then Riiken will start to patrol the Western area. Wait
until he is far away from the people there, talk to him, and
tell him to die. Combat ensues, and you probably win.
(150 XP, DSP)
Gelesi - Gelesi is hiding out in the Cantina. He's pretty easy to convince
to leave, if you have Persuade. Here's a path:
> You seem tired.
> Tell me about Sullio.
> What do you know about the murder?
> You sound nervous.
> [Persuade] That sounds like a good idea. You need to think of
your family first. (technically fails)
> [Persuade / Threat - 9 REQ] You should leave Iziz quickly. If
you don't...
If you succeed on the final Persuade, you get 150 XP and a DSP.
Force Persuade fails on him, and the other final Persuade option
skips the DSP.
If you aren't good enough to get it done that way, enter the
other side room and talk to Panar there about the Captain. He
won't kill him, but for 500 credits he'll frighten/persuade him
to leave Iziz. With a Persuade of 15 you can get it down to 200,
and with a Persuade of 7 you can get it down to 400. They go
over and intimidate him into leaving. (150 XP, DSP)
When they're all dead, get your credits and go. (550 XP)
SIDEQUEST: When Ponlar Attacks
You've talked to Ponlar once, the next time you go by him, you might
trigger his attack. You can try to Persuade him not to fight, or you can
Persuade the crowd to join him. You can't stop this peacefully. If you try
to persuade the crowd to violence, you gain +INF+ with HK-47 or Hanharr.
Conversely, if you use [Force Persuade] to stop Ponlar, then with Affect
Mind only you can gain +INF+ with G0-T0 or T3, with either Affect or
Dominate: Disciple and Handmiaden; or with Dominate Mind only: Bao-Dur.
You either fight against the royalist troops here, or if you tried to stop
it, against the crowd. If you tell the trooper that you won't fight
civilians, all you can do is watch.
Iziz: Western Square
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You get attacked, almost immediately by Thugs after your bounty. You can't
even talk to them, so time for battle. Standard group tactics here, use
Energy Resistance, then take out the melee fighters first while your
resistance keeps them from shooting you. Once they're dead, search the bodies
and move on. These ones DO NOT have an open starport visa, but you can get
one (sort of) from the next Bounty Hunters that attack you here later.
Move on. The pile has no significance ... yet. But keep it in mind. The thugs
here won't offer anything, and the droid merchant isn't that important...yet.
However, if you go up to it and try to [Repair] Rewire to be more helpful
with G0-T0 in your party, let him help for some +INF+ (otherwise this does
nothing that I could see).
Move on to the end of the area to find Dhagon Gent's place. You find out that
he has been arrested, and that to find out more, you need to talk to Captain
Riiken back at the first turret tower in the Merchant area.
Ignore the Cantina for now (we'll be back), and return to find Riiken.
The Second Bounty Hunter
When you start to leave this area, you'll get a Precognition that another
group of bounty hunters is going to attack you. Use an Energy Resitance and
go up to them. If you have either Mira, they will interject here, and you can
gain +INF+ by saying:
> I'm not going to let you insult my companion. +INF+
Yes, this ends in violence. Another group battle, but you were warned about
this one so it probably ends quickly. Search the remains for:
Bounty Hunter's Starport Visa
It needs to be Sliced before you can do anything with it, and that is done
in the Cantina by Kiph (see the SIDEQUEST for more information). Keep going
to see Riiken.
Ask about Dhagon, and learn he's in jail for murdering Captain Sullio.
Mandalore needs you to get Dhagon out, and you need that to get into the
palace to see Jedi Master Kavar. Guess we have to help. Ask about how you
can eliminate Dhagon as a suspect, and he tells you to investigate in the
Cantina. Go back to the Cantina, and in.
Iziz Cantina
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More people in here want Visas, three in fact, Gormo the captain at the
entrance, Sakarie the Exchange smuggler to the right side, and Xaart the
Republic spy near the top-left of this area (as seen on the map). Check out
the Starport Visas SIDEQUEST for more information on this. You also have
an open Starport Visa which Kiph can decode for you, for a low, low cost of
500 credits, but you have to have heard that he can do it first. You can
ask Gormo about this, tell him you only have your visa and he mentions
Slicers.
You can race your Swoop here, this place actually has a competitive heat
(or you can just cheat, get near a barrier, pause, abort and win) which
is worth some good credits. With a [Persuade - 18 REQ] after the first race
you can talk him into giving you a better cut of the profits, an extra 500
for every race after the first. With a [Persuade - 8 REQ] he'll simply waive
the fee. Otherwise you just get:
First Race - 500 credits (400 after his cut)
Second Race - 500 credits (400, or 1000 with Persuade)
Third Race - 2000 credits (1900, or 2500 with Persuade)
Final Race - 5000 credits (4900, or 5500 with Persuade)
7600 to 9400 Credits can be made there, depending on Persuade.
Nikko, whom you talk to in your investigations later, will play Pazaak with
you. His maximum bet is 250 credits. Beat him three times to get some cards:
+5, +/-1, +/-3.
Murder Most Foul
Once you've done all you want to do, time to start the investigation. Talk
to Panar in the gang's side room. Ask about the murder, then follow that up
with questions about Dhagon and the "reason why Dhagon Ghent would kill
Sullio." (250 XP)
Go talk to Nikko next. Mention what you heard from Panar to Nikko, and he
denies that to be the case. Why, they were good friends. Keep asking
questions about the murder. Where did he find the body. Once Mandalore tells
you to look outside, you're done with Nikko. (500 XP)
Go outside, turn right and go to the garbage pile. Select it, but there's
nothing there. Just behind that, however, is a broken serving droid. Hmmm...
(250 XP) Back to the Cantina, and talk to Nikko about this droid. He doesn't
offer you much. Talk to Panar about the droid, and he mentions 1B-8D sells
droid parts that are scavenged. (250 XP)
Outside again, and go straight ahead to find the droid, 1B-8D. Ask about
parts from Bahima's droids, then buy the parts for 25 credits. (250 XP)
Back to the Cantina, and talk to Kiph, give him the remnants of the droid
and watch the final feed. It's not terribly informative. (250 XP)
Now show it to Nikko, he believes that this counts as conclusive evidence
and takes you over to see Captain Riiken. No matter what you say with him and
his superior, you and Nikko get things done, Dhagon Ghent is a free man.
Riiken will start patrolling the Western Square himself, if you are doing
Anda's SIDEQUEST to remove the captains.
Dhagon Ghent has no real answers to anything except getting you into the
palace. But for that he needs his Discs back from Bakkel's gang, who are in
the Cantina. (1500 XP, random lightsaber)
Prepare for a fight, head to the Cantina, first room on the right side, and
talk to Bakkel. This is just about the shortest conversation ever, she
attacks almost immediately. Clear the room. Be sure to search her body for:
Encrypted Holodisks (Dhagon needs these)
Open Starport Visa (just about everyone wants these)
The Meeting
When you are done with Onderon, and I do mean done, because you won't return
to this place again (although you return to Onderon later, you can't do
any SIDEQUEST, or play Pazaak, or race Swoop, etc. again), go back to
Dhagon's office and talk to him. Tell him you're ready, and the meeting with
Kavar is set up... (300 XP for returning the disks)
You automatically appear in the Cantina and meet with Kavar. His dialogue
goes slightly differently depending on how Light/Dark Sided you are, but at
this point all you can do is ask quesions. He doesn't say much when Colonel
Tobin interrupts. (This happens on both Light/Dark Side)
Get Out of Onderon
This leads to a battle. Visas and HK-47 want to wipe this room out, give them
permission to get +INF+, and a DSP and you lose -INF- if you tell them flat
out NO. But if you tell them to just keep it to the enemy, they have no
reaction. Handmaiden will tell you that you must not harm anyone in the
battle, agree with her for +INF+.
If you have been siding with Vaklu all along, Tobin will run back in and stop
the attack. He wants to make a deal with you, but needs it to look like his
forces are still against you, to keep up appearances with their other Sith
allies.
Note: This is the "point of no return" where you must pick one side or the
other. No backing out now.
Either way, you are going to have a fire fight all the way back to
Mandalore's shuttle. The Soldier in the Merchant Quarter can be told
anything, he won't believe you, but goes to check things out. You may have to
fight your way through the Crowd (see SIDEQUEST above) if you haven't
already, but there will be other commoners in your way, and once they get
killed, you can't buy things from Geggoran ever again. When you get back to
near the port, the turrets come online and attack you.
Once you're done, back to port (250 XP), back to your shuttle and back to
Dxun.
Dxun, Finale (For Now)
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Now things get set up for our eventual return trip to Onderon. Mandalore
joins you fully, he wants to gather the clans, and figures you're as good an
excuse to leave on that trip as any.
As you go through the base, you might find Remains from your previous battle
here with the Sith. Head out, and go to the lower base.
Note: If you didn't make it down here during the Sith Assassin attack
before you left, there will probably be Sith Assassins down here.
Enter Mandalore's chambers, and talk to Kelborn. He tells you that he'll send
word to you when Onderon is safe to return to (which means whenever he gets
a message from Tobin or Kavar). You can also search Mandalore's secret
back room now, he won't care. There's three metal boxes inside with random
swag.
Talk to the Mandalorian Guide near the gates, and have him take you back to
the Ebon Hawk, go in and leave.
If Onderon was your last planet, you might wonder where to go and what to do.
It seems to me that this is based on a timer. After a certain amount of time
(perhaps hours), the game knows that Onderon is ready to go again.
If Onderon isn't your last planet, then you have nothing to worry about.
Later, you'll reboard your ship and have a message from Kelborn to return.
This is covered in the Onderon Finale section below.
You can return to Dxun anytime.
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11. Korriban :KRRBN:
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I always take Korriban last, for a couple reasons. One, it is a good
diversion while I wait for Onderon to get back to me. Two, in order to enter
the Sith/Shyrack Cave, you need to be at a certain power level, which you
will be if you take it last.
Korriban features only two places to go, the Cave and the Academy, but
features the most famous and useful exploit/cheat in the game, the Infinite
Hssiss Respawn Point (basically, when you find the "Dead Jedi" select it
over and over).
Beyond that, we're looking for the final Jedi Master, and perhaps, some sign
of Revan.
Kreia won't go with you, but you can still lose Influence with her. Before
heading out if you say "Fine. I didn't want your company anyway" you lose
-INF-.
Valley of the Dark Lords
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In KotOR 1, this valley led to four tombs, each of them searchable. Now,
however, they're looted and destroyed.
There are corpses littered all around this area, but when you search any of
them, Kreia gets upset at you. She will tell you that Hssiss will be drawn
to you. You can lose -INF- with her if you say: "These creatures shouldn't be
much challenge."
There are four tombs about, you can't enter them, but as you get close to
them (only the ones ahead of you have corpses to search) Kreia will pipe in
with an explanation about this person. You only need to listen to one of
these, that of Ajunta Pall, then if you set Revan to Light Side (waaaaaaay
back), Kreia will tell you that Revan "saved" Ajunta. You can say the
following:
- [Awareness - 11 REQ] You sound like you disapprove.
Then either one,
- LSP - No one is beneath redemption, Kreia. No one.
- DSP - Ajunta Pall was a fool. The dark side sustained him even beyond
death and Revan tricked him into surrendering to oblivion.
Then just go ahead, and up the winding pathway. There's one corpse there,
with its accompanying Hssiss. Halfway up the pathway is the entrance to the
Shyrack Cave. Your party will comment on it, and Kreia tells you to finish
your work at the Academy first. It doesn't matter if you do it now or later.
But we're here now, so go in.
Shyrack Cave
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To Sith Cave
/ /
---- /| |_/ /
---/ __________ / | | |
-/ $'------/ | | |
-/ -/-- /----- |__ | | /
-----------/ -/ ----/ | | ___ | | |
/ ----- $ ---/ | | | | |
| | | | |$ | | | / |
// | | |
-// - |$ | ____/ | |$
-/ - --- /--- | | / ________| /
Entrance - -/ $ --------/ / ------ ___A____ /
--- ____________/ / | | |
| /----/ | | |
A - Sith Ambush | | | | | |
$ - Treasure ___ | | | |
_/ / | |
_------- /----/ | | /
|$ $ ___----- - -----$ | | /
___-/ ---/ | |$ /
|_| |_/
This is the same cave as KotOR I, with one exception, found in the back.
Just ahead is a half-eaten corpse, with a Datapad, and random loot. Just some
information on the enemies we'll be fighting in here. At this point, you
should be OK to fight anything. Unless this is your first planet, that is.
Ahead, at the first turn, you'll see Shyracks and Tuk'atas fighting amongst
themselves. You could wait for them to kill each other (you get the XP in
either case), or just wade in there and deal violence to all. Then search
the nearby Sith Corpse and Ceramic Jar for shinies.
At this point, I'd take the turn to your right (map down), follow that until
the next turn to your right (map down) and follow that to a larger room.
Search it for items on the Corpse and Jar, then keep going along the passage
to the Chasm opening. Search the Jar here.
You'll probably just find yourself being drawn all along this chasm fighting
the Shyracks as you go. Eventually you can stop, and take the middle passage
back towards the entrance. Ignore the passage to your right (map up) for now,
and keep going ahead (map left). This opens up to another larger room, with
a column and water. Take out the monsters, search the corpse and two jars,
then move on.
Backtrack to the beginning, then take a right (map right). Straight ahead.
There's nothing in the next opened passage, so keep going. When you get to
it, turn right (map down), clear out this passage then search it for a Sith
Corpse and a couple of Jars. Back up.
At the top, turn right and go that way (map right), get the jar, then
continue to reach the chasm. Then it's just down and across the bridge. As
you cross you get attacked by devious Sith Assassins.
First, take a right (map down), head to the bottom of this area and search
there for a couple of Jars with shinies. Go up, just past the bridge are more
jars with shinies. Continue to the top, through the Hssiss.
Note: Here's a good place to create a Save. Keep this one, just in case.
When you reach the Forboding Looking Cavern Entrance, Kreia will tell you
whether you are ready or not. If you can't get in (you'll be knocked out
by the power of the place), you need two things:
Be very Light or Dark Sided
Be higher level
I'd save it before entering. Seriously. And don't save over it.
Sith Cavern
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|r|
---_______/
| 4 _______5 T Exit
_ | | /
( ) | | |w|
.---. _| |_ | |
--------' | |: _ |_____| |
/ -------.r | | _/ _____ |
/ / `---' /----------------'3/_ | | |
| | | .--------------._: _| | |_.---.
| | / |r| |___ X |
| | | | (w) '---'
To Shyrack--- 1--------------'
Caves --- --------------. 2| 1 to 5 - "Events" (see below)
| | --/ r - rubble, treasures
| | .---. w - wicker, treasures
| --' | : - impassable
|----. w| X - The "Dead Jedi"
`---' T - Sarcophagus
Note: Light Side characters CANNOT regain Force here normally. If you're
Light Side, don't use the Force unless you really need to. (Although
there is a cheat to regain Force Points, simply get to 0 FP, unequip
a WIS boosting item, then equip it again) That's not that you can't
get FP back, just that it isn't regular.
Danijel points out: It`s enough to have in your hands a lightsabre
as the first set of weapons, upgraded with a chrystal with a WIS
boost (Kaiburr, Kasha, Ruusan). The other set of weapons can be
empty.
As soon the FP drops to 0 - pressing the switch weapons button for
changing between the first set of weapons and 2nd set, will get you
also the 40 FP.
Event 1: Malak
You enter, and watch Malak (pre-Chin) preach War to the Jedi. You can cut
this dialogue short by saying: "Enough games, draw your lightsaber and
fight!" Or you can listen to the whole thing, and answer each of his
questions. The answers don't appear to matter here. When it gets to combat,
you need only defeat Malak to make them all go away. You don't get XP.
You can no longer get out the way you came in. In fact, you'll never go that
way again. There are three doors here, one to the left, right and one ahead
of you.
Take the right door first (map down), turn, then through the door. Kill the
Shyracks here, then search the wicker footlocker at the end of the room for
some swag.
Next take the door that leads map up (it would have been to your left when
you first entered), take he passage all the way, through the next door.
Kill the Shyracks, then search the rubble in the corner. Back out.
Last door, and through. Kill the beasties, and ahead. Just before the next
door you'll find a severed arm with a Datapad (and random loot). Get it, then
open the door. It's locked.
Event 2: Shyrack Nest
This is an easy fight, just let them mob up to you, then use a group Force
Power (Force Storm works best, or Wave if you're Light Side). Otherwise just
use your best attacks and work your way through them. Once that's done, just
open up the top door, and go through.
The next door has a field of Dark Energy in front of it. Must be a sign.
Doesn't do anything, though, so go to the door and through.
Event 3: The Minefield
The soldiers want your help to get through the Mandalorian lines, but there's
a minefield in the way. You will have to sort through your memories a bit
first, but eventually you get the option to either send them, or go yourself.
Dark Path > The battle is an invaluable opportunity. We will fight on.
> DSP - War calls for blood. Yours was taken that day. Searching
for meaning is pointless.
> DSP - The only casualties that mattered in that war were Jedi.
Now charge!
There is no Light Path, just avoid saying the above, then offer to deal with
the mines yourself.
There are two ways to deal with mines, either disable/recover or set them
off. You can set them off if you have Stun/Disable/Destroy Droid, or just by
walking over them. These are "Average Frag Mines" and only take a DC 30 to
Recover (you get an automatic 20+Skill Level when you do a skill outside of
combat, meaning you only need a total skill of +10 to recover them).
Once you get to the other side, or eliminate the mines, the Mandalorians
attack and a battle is joined. Help if you want, but you won't get XP for
killing anything.
Three doors here, one up, one down, and one across. Save that one for last.
Go through the "up" door first. Kill the Shyrack. No treasure. Back down,
then through the "down" door.
This leads to a Shyrack and some rubble and a wicker footlocker with
treasures.
Back out, then through the last door to your right (map right). Straight
ahead, kill the Hssiss. There are two doors to take here. Take the right
door (map down), through this passage, kill the Shyracks, and through the
next locked.
The Infinite Hssiss Spawnpoint
Well, you found it. Here it is. There's some rubble just to your right when
you walk in. But that isn't why we're here. See that "Dead Jedi" in the
center of the four columns? (200 XP, first time you select it) Yeah, every
time you "Use" that, another batch of Hssiss appear. Every time. Thus, no
matter who you are, light or dark side, you can stay here and level up. Dark
Siders have it easy since they have normal use of Force Powers, and have
Force Storm at their disposal. Light Siders have to just use lightsabers and
feats.
You can check out the Cheats section for the main idea on this exploit.
Otherwise we'll leave it as it is.
Note: You can level up all you want here, but it isn't necessarily worth
it. Why? Because when you gain levels, your enemies gain levels,
especially the bosses. If you keep up on your items, upgrades and
YOURNAME Crystal upgrades, you will probably be fine either way. But
it won't make the game any easier to gain 20 levels here.
Back out, and up through the next door.
Event 4: Kreia Betrayed
Up ahead you see "Kreia", who is having some troubles with Atton. And
Bao-Dur. And T3. Basically they all see her as an evil influence and want to
kill her. Until you have to "choose" nothing you say or do matters, however,
once you get the choice, what you say matters quite a lot. The easiest way
past is to say:
> I think I'll just stand back and watch.
OR
> You are all just visions anyway. It doesn't matter what I do.
But you have to fight everyone, you can side with either Kreia or Atton.
Kreia:
> LSP > I will protect you, Kreia, so that you may be redeemed later.
(this can be repeated again again, but not forever, she vanishes
eventually)
OR
> DSP > We are on the same side, you and I.
Atton and friends:
> LSP > You are right Kreia. I will defend you, so that you may live to
pursue redemption.
OR
> DSP > You are beyond redemption, Kreia. Prepare to die!
If you defend Kreia, one attack is all it takes to remove her attackers.
She, however, won't go anywhere and you have to do it again. And again,
forever if you want, gaining LSPs or DSPs each time. You need to
clear this area, so at some point you have to pick the "I don't care" type
response to get their Apathy lines. Or take the DSP and attack Kreia. Those
are your only two choices.
Note: If Kreia is still around up here, you can't open the next door.
Event 5: Revan
Past Kreia, down the hallway, through the door, you will confront Revan.
He/She won't really talk to you, so fight. Revan isn't a tough fight, but
can do a fair amount of damage if you don't finish it quickly.
.................................Glitch....................................
. Once Revan is dead, Kreia will telepathically contact you. If she does .
. not, then your game is glitched and you need to reload to your previous .
. save. Try again. If that doesn't work, go back another save. You may .
. (unlikely) have to redo the entire cave. This glitch has never happened .
. to me, but I have heard numerous reports of it. You'll know it's .
. happened to you because the door behind the Sarcophagus will be locked, .
. as Kreia unlocks it when she talks to you. .
...........................................................................
From Kreia you get 2000 XP, random Lightsaber.
Go forward, open the Sarcophagus, get the loot (Ludo Kressh's Armband, and
Ludo Kressh's War Sword), then search the two small side rooms nearby. Once
you're done, open the last door and leave. You'll be alone in the Shyrack
Cave, so use the Party Selection to get your people back.
Out and up to the Sith Academy.
The Sith Academy
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Entrance J - Jedi Master
| | f - footlocker
/-' `- B - Bag
.-----. | | Th - Thorium Charges
|Th | -. .-/ D - Locked Door
'---. | | | T - Student Access Terminal
_| |_ | | / S - Sealed Door (Thorium)
.-----. .-----. / | | | | f h - Holocron
|f | |f | | | | | | | / L - Library Door
'--. | '--. | _ _/ | | f/
| | | | | | | | /f .--.
.--' | .--' | | | | | / / | |
| | | | L | | /D/ |J '--.
'--. | '--. | -| |-/ / / '---. |
____| |_____| |___________' '_____________|D|
|B B Poison Hall |
| ---. .-----. .------------ --------------. |
| | | | | | / |D|
.---S| | '--. | '--. . .-/ /--' `--
|f h| | f| | T | | | |Training
`----' | ,--' | ,--' | | | Room |
| '--. | '--. |D| -------/
| f| | f| ||
`-----' `-----'
When you enter the Academy, your party members will pipe up with comments
about this. Nothing here, except that you can lose -INF- with Hanharr if you
tell him: "Get in there you big furry oaf. I don't care what you smell."
Too bad, it's a good in-joke line.
You see Sion in meditation immediately, so don't get too comfortable here.
Fight through the monsters who greet you, then ahead into the main area,
where you'll have to start fighting Sith Assassins. That's how this area will
go, random beasts and Sith Assassins.
You see 5 new passages leading off from here, however, the passage that leads
diagonal up-left (as seen on the map) can't be opened by you. The other
diagonal can, however, be opened with Security/Lightsaber. Go up that way,
search the three locked footlockers, and fight off the Sith Assassins when
they show up. Back to the main room.
Now, go slightly leftwards to enter the very bottom passage, open the
locked door and through. What? Nothing here. Oh well, go back... and get
attacked by more Sith Assassins (remember, more fights = more XP). Kill 'em
all. Three passages left to go. Return to the main room.
This time, turn left (map left), and go down the passage. There's a bag here,
get its things. There's a datapad here that suggests Stealth fields to sneak
by the Tuk'atas. Not really necessary.
Run first to the end of the hallway. Skip by any monsters you see, then get
the items on the Chewed Twi'lek. Wait for the Sith Assassins and any Tuk'atas
to attack you. The datapad found on the corpse tells you how to open this
big locked door, with Thorium Charges. There are 2 Thorium Charges in the
game, so you may already have some from Dantooine, if you have it, you can
open that big door now. Otherwise, turn around, and go back up the hall.
Take the first right. Search the footlockers in the two rooms here (I got an
Orange Crystal in one), and in the second footlocker you'll get the datapad
telling you how to log into the system later. (50 XP)
Back to the hall, then up the opposite dorm. There's only one footlocker here
in the back. Return to the hall.
Go now to what would have been the first set of dorms, turn left (map up),
and go to the top. You'll get attacked by Sith Assassins here. Kill them and
open the locked footlocker for more swag. Back across, and into the last
dorm.
Skip the Computer Panel for now, hit the back room for its footlocker full
of shinies, then back to the Computer Panel. Enter 'New Recruit' to get
your ID # 3401726-B853S5O0X001. With a Computer Use, you remember this
automatically, otherwise just pick the correct option. Using "Access Learning
Material" will unlock the other "diagonal" room, this one the library. Feel
free to do so, but it's not that helpful. Take the Level one written test.
Written Test Answer Key---------------------------------------------------.
| | |
| Which of the following Sith Lords is | Freedon Nadd. |
| not entombed upon Korriban? | |
|--------------------------------------|----------------------------------|
| A number of Sith Lords conducted the | |
| burial ritual of the great Marka | |
| Ragnos. The ritual required all Sith | |
| Lords in attendance to be evenly | |
| spaced in a perfect circle. Ludo | Twenty. |
| Kressh led the ritual from the | |
| coveted 6th position, directly | |
| opposite Simus in the 16th position. | |
| How many Sith Lords conducted the | |
| burial ritual? | |
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| Which of the following creatures | |
| would be *least* suitable as a pet | Gizka |
| for a Sith Master | |
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| Which of the following statements is | I always lie. |
| *not* a paradox | |
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| The path to breaking chains is... | passion - strength - |
| | power - victory. |
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Get 4 or 5 out of 5 and it allows you access to the Training Room at the end
of the other major hallway. Select "Access Training Room" to open the door.
Log out. (150 XP)
Head out, turn right (map right), back to the main area. Take the sharp turn
left (map diagonal up-left) and into the library. You'll get attacked by more
Sith Assassins. We don't care about the computer terminal here, just the
footlocker. Do NOT bash this footlocker (it blows up). Security it open, or
use a mine. Yes, using a mine to explode it won't destroy the Charges, but
using a lightsaber will. Get the Thorium Charges. The nearby bag just has a
Datapad.
Back to that massive door we couldn't open earlier in the previous hallway.
Use the Thorium Charges, and blast the door.
If you set Revan to Dark Side, you get to watch a holo of Bastila telling you
what happened to the Sith after Revan ditched them all. If Revan was set to
Light Side, then the holocron is ruined and unusable. No XP, just an
interesting sequence. There's also a couple footlockers with loot in here.
Last hallway, and it's straight across (map right) from our current hallway.
Avoid the small lights on the ground, they're poison mines, but they simply
go off randomly. Turn right into the training room, use the computer to
begin the training sequence, then kill the starving Tuk'atas. Kill them, then
use the computer again. No matter how fast you are in combat, it tells you
that you failed due to time limits, and orders you to report across the hall
for punishment. It opens the last door.
Make sure you've done everything you want to do here, you won't come back.
Go across the hall and into the torture room. There's the corpse of our Jedi
Master, Vash. If you say "I might have killed her myself..." you get a DSP.
(500 XP either way)
Search her body for a datapad (and a random Lightsaber), then use the
computer terminal. Ignore the Schedule disciplinary action command, and
[Computer] Access System Commands. Enter "Lonna Vash." Open front door. We
can leave again!
Head out, and return to the main room. But be ready for combat.
There's Darth Sion and his Sith Assassin flunkies. He mocks you a bit. You
can ask questions about Kreia, but this only leads to combat. If you want the
XP out of this battle, kill the Sith Assassins first, then attack Sion. You
can't kill him, and when he gets wounded Kreia will pull you out of the
battle telepathically. Run away... run away... Sion mocks you again, and you
leave. (200 XP)
Interestingly, if you are male he orders more attacks, but if you are female
he pulls off his troops. This doesn't affect anything, but it is interesting.
That is that for Korriban.
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12. Onderon Finale :ONDFN:
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If you're following the walkthrough, when you return to your ship from
Korriban, T3 tells you that you have a message from Kelborn. (This happens
wherever you are)
Reply to him, with one of these lines.
- A message from Kelborn? What is it?
- +INF+ Thanks T3. Please tell me what Kelborn said.
- -INF- This better be important, droid.
Bottom line, it's time to return to Dxun. Since this will be the last planet
and you won't be able to speak to Kreia much longer, make sure to finish up
with any business you have left with her, and be absolutely sure to get your
"YOURNAME" Crystal upgraded. Also, you'll be splitting into 2 parties soon,
so make sure you have at least 5 other companions equipped up with fully
upgraded arms and armor.
When all is in a state of readiness, return to Dxun. Take the Mandalorian
Guide back to the Base quickly, then Kelborn talks to you. Either Kavar or
Tobin will have contacted him telling you to get to Onderon and quickly.
Now you must choose who to send on your Dxun expedition. For the leader of
the second group you can choose:
Handmaiden / Disciple
Mira
Atton
Visas
Note: If your main character doesn't have decent Repair skills, this is the
last chance you get to use a Workbench with someone other than
him/her.
Also, and obviously, anyone sent on this mission won't be able to go
with you to Onderon.
I would send your best warriors in the Dxun group, you'll need them there,
it seems to be the harder task. Or maybe it's just because you aren't there.
Once that group is decided, you have no choice but to go on. They start
first.
The Dxun Jungle Tomb
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To Freedon
Nadd's Tomb
| |
| |
| | * - Ship
|| / || s - Motion Sensor
.-''--' '--''-. D - Droid Power Generator
| | St - Security Terminal
`------. .------' T - Turret Power Generator
| | " - water
| |
/| | |
/ | | |
D'----' '----.
/ **** /---- Entrance
/ /-- ****--| / /---
/""" St| | |
"/"""""| / | |
""""""""" /--'
"""""""""| ./
""""""""/ / | |
""""""""| /_ | |
"""""""/ |---___ | |
"""""""| T ___ s'--------' |
"""""""" / --------------/
""""""""| / ^
"""""""/ | Mines
"""""""_-__/
Xarga is your escort on this mission, and he talks to you occasionally. Like
right now when he tells you to go forward. Hey, that's my job. Forward! Just
ahead are some Boma beasts. And just past them is a minefield. When you get
past the first two mines, Xarga will point out there is a motion detector.
Someone with a Stealth Field generator, and who doesn't set off the mines can
get by it. Simple three choices here, destroy it, disable it, ignore it and
set off the alarm anyway.
The third choice is simple enough, and doesn't seem to change things that
much in the long run. However, if you want to disable/destroy it, you need
to have someone Stealth up to it, use it, disable/destroy it. Mira works
really well for that task as she can walk straight through the mines and not
take the hit, but unless you gave her Stealth, she won't work for this. If
you want to destroy it, someone in your party will make the Detonation Pack,
provided anyone has Demolitions.
What you can do is Stealth, walk up to the mines, and use the Right Stick to
adjust your view until you see the path between the mines. Walk to the next
set and repeat. You can also disarm mines while stealthed.
Note: In order to get the [Demolitions] option appear, the character using
it must have that skill. Also, if you have Bao-Dur he can
automatically succeed with an override code (but he could probably
also make the Repair check).
I've also had success at this by just having Mira run through the
minefield, set off the alarm, but disable it quickly and no one
showed up.
If you set off a mine, or trip the alarm, Sith troopers will show up.
Recover the minefield, then exit the cave. There are going to be Sith
Troopers all around out here, and they won't present too much difficulty if
you keep your group together, and concentrate your attacks on single foes.
There is also the Turret Power Generator out here. You can either [Repair] it
to explode, or attempt to turn it off (but that doesn't work). Once you
explode it, the Chain Gun Turrets nearby will be disabled.
Note: If you want the XP from killing the turrets, don't destroy the
generator. Of course, that makes the battles more difficult...
Head over to the brown water, then look up. You'll see a ship ahead and
right, and our goal of the stairway ahead and left. Get as close to the
right as you can, and go towards that ship. Nothing but your basic Sith
Troopers here. Kill them, and go forward into their camp. Search their Metal
Box and Footlocker for shinies.
Access the Security Terminal here. With [Computer Use] slice into it, then
access the system commands. Now, you can Upload area schematics (base: 5
spikes), or more usefully use [Computer] Run "Foothold" scenario (base: 10
spikes), as this turns droids and turrets against all humans. (460 XP) Once
that's done, sit back and wait for the XP from kills to roll in.
Just ahead is the staircase, which is guarded by Turrets (possibly disabled),
Droids (possibly turned on their masters, and dead) and Sith Troopers. Just
behind them to your left is the Droid power generator. Like the Turret
Generator you can [Repair] to blow it up.
Note: If you destroy the generator, all the War Droids will stop, but you
won't get XP for defeating them. Your call.
Get ready for a large fight with many forces. With Energy Resistance and
Master Speed, you should tear through them like tearing through tissure
paper. Keep your group together and you should be fine. Make sure to search
the two small dead ends up here, before heading into the Tomb.
You'll have to fight more Sith, and some Dark Jedi/Sith Lords as well. They
are only slightly more tricky to fight than other enemies, as they barely
ever use Force Powers. Forward.
Tomb of Freedon Nadd
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__ __
/ C / C
T / /
|| ||
|| ||
|| ___|SS|___ ||
/ ___________ | | ___________/
| ___________d d___________ |
__/ | | __/
. ./
dd/
||
|| d - door
|| SS - Big Sealed Door
|| w - workbench
|| A - Ancient Terminal/Box
__dd__ C - Console that Opens Big Sealed Door
/ __ __ T - Dark Side Energy
/ / ||
_/ / || _
/ || / T
| A | || |w A|
__/ Entrance __/
Xarga gives you some background on this tomb, and Freedon Nadd. He says that
Nadd was worse than Revan or Malak ever were. Really? Malak wiped out Telos
and Taris and buried the Republic in a war that nearly destroyed it, and
this Freedon Nadd was worse? As far as we know, he merely conquered one
planet and made himself king. What's worse about that? But enough
editorializing.
Go ahead slightly, and you get to "enjoy" a cutscene of Sith at play. They
want to prevent you from interupting their ritual, and deploy out to stop
you.
Go straight ahead to the doors, but don't go through them yet. Instead,
turn right, take out the Sith Trooper, and continue down that passage. This
room will be guarded by Sith War Droids. Nothing tough.
Just ahead to your left is some Dark Energy on the ground. Ooh, creepy. If
you are going through Dark Sided, this is a great opportunity to revel in
its dark power. Go up and feel your anger to gain a random Dark Side Power,
and a DSP. You can gain the following powers here (1 only):
Slow > Affliction > Plague
Fear > Horror > Insanity
Wound > Choke > Kill
Shock > Force Lightning > Force Storm
If you have all those powers, it gives you a bonus to your Maximum Force
Points.
If you resist the Dark Side, you get a 2xLSP and a temporary bonus of +4 to
STR and CON, but you must make a Will save to do it. If you fail your Save,
you gain only a DSP.
Around the other side are a couple Wicker Bins, a Workbench and a Broken
Droid, whom you can repair. (1 part to reactivate) Then you can rebuild all
its systems (base: 4, 4, 5, 6 parts) (1560 XP for all) and it will activate
then run off in search of things to shoot.
Next, go into the little room here. There's an ancient box and an ancient
terminal. The second opens the first, so use the terminal.
Note: SAVE it before using this thing. Seriously.
Fill in the missing operators:
(6 _ 2) _ 8 _ 9 _ 1 = 13
Answer:
(6 * 2) - 8 + 9 * 1 = 13
OR
(6 * 2) - 8 + 9 / 1 = 13
Both work, and the game picks one before you do it. If the one you chose
didn't work, reload and do the other one. Even that isn't guaranteed, but
it will work eventually.
When it opens, you get 500 XP. Open the Ancient Box to get your reward,
random lightsaber parts.
Head back up, then over to the next pathway down to the room on the other
side. This side is defended by Sith troopers and Grenadiers. At this point
grenades are nuisances, but hardly a problem. Nothing big. Kill them and
search the remains.
Around this room are a couple of wicker bins again, with random items, and a
Broken Medical Droid that you can repair with 1 part (480 XP). It will now
follow you around and heal you if you get wounded. Sweet.
Into the room, and the next Ancient Terminal. You don't need to save it
before this one. One module is faulty, and all the modules report the faulty
modules as:
A: feb, B: dce, C: eba
D: fac, E: fdc, F: acd
C appears most often, so the answer is C, so select that and power up.
(500 XP) Another lightsaber type upgrade item. Go back to the workbench and
upgrade it.
Then, when you're ready, go through the main doors. If you repaired the
Broken Droid earlier, he's probabaly already taken care of the first group of
soldiers here (and if he was damaged, your medical droid might repair him).
But that's as far as Broken Droid will go, so onward.
Be ready for a fight, then open the Barrier and kill the Dark Jedi that
appear. Our goal is the freaky-large door dead ahead, but it's locked and
can't be opened by normal means. So, turn right first (map right), get the
wicker items. Then over to the right doorway, and through.
This is a long passage guarded by Sith Troopers, followed by a guarded turn,
and another long passage. This gets us to a cutscene of Sith troopers mind
controlling some Boma beasts. Who could defeat them with an unstoppable army
of... Boma.
Just go up to the computer (there's nothing else here) and use it to lower
the lever. That's it, the door's opened. You don't even need to go to the
other side, if you want.
As you go back, you'll be attacked again. And again. Same group of Sith,
Dark Jedi and beasts. Now, before going through the main doors here, go to
the left hallway (as seen on the map) and go up that guarded passage to the
end. Get the stuff in the Footlocker. But better yet, there's another of
the Dark Energy patches here. Save it, and use it. Either revel in the Dark
Side, or Willpower to control yourself as before. It works exactly the same
as before, you can gain a power, maximum force points, or the temporary +4
to STR and CON.
You'll be attacked coming out of this place as well.
We're finally ready to move on. Head through the now opened massive doorway.
There are several groups to fight through here. The first is Sith Troopers,
followed by some Dark Jedi. Get ready for a fight. You have to fight three
Sith Lords, and they're pretty strong. So, use Energy Shields or Resistance,
and whatever Stims and other Powers you want.
The Three Sith Masters
When you get close to them, they talk to you. He will attempt to tempt you
to the Dark Side. The conversation leads to a choice, pick one:
- 3xLSP - I will not... be tempted. That path leads to the dark side.
- 3xDSP - I feel it... there is much power here.
Regardless of what you say, this leads to a fight. Manually set the attacks
of all three of your people to concentrate on one of the Sith. They largely
just hit you with Lightsabers, so if you used Energy Shields, you won't have
much to worry about. Keep on the offensive, let the Medical Droid heal you,
and make sure your people don't spend any time bumping into each other like
idiots. This shouldn't take long. When they're dead, be sure to search them
for treasures, like a Lightsaber, Crystal and other items.
Go forward to the end of the tomb, open the Sarcophagus and search the mummy
to get Freedon Nadd's Short Lightsaber (can't upgrade) and some random items.
Go back, talk to Xarga and you're done.
Onderon Civil War
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We now switch back to our main character. Mandalore has given you a Basilisk
War droid for a global insertion into Onderon. You, Kreia and one other will
go to Onderon. I like to take Mandalore to let him shoot things while I
smack things with my lightsaber, but anyone is fine.
No matter what side you're on, you'll be fighting people soon. If you took
General Vaklu's side, Tobin will meet up with you and tell you what to do,
otherwise you simply have to fight your way up to the palace through the
Sky Ramp.
Not much to see or do here, go ahead, then left and up to the Sky Ramp. If
you're working for the Queen, you meet up with someone at the Sky Ramp then
watch a cutscene as Kavar believes that you can take out an army. Well, we'd
hate to disappoint him. Go on up.
The Sky Ramp
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|--------|
/------------------| |--
/ FF To Palace
/ /-----------------| |--
/ / | |
/ / -------|
|---------------| /FF/
| |_/ /
---- / T - Turret Control Door
| / FF - Force Field (Use Lightsaber)
----| / W - Workbench
|W B / B - Barracks
| |---| |_ C - Turrent Control Console
|---| | T C
|---| | |
| |___/
| |
| |
| |
| |
Entrance
Note: Stay away from all power couplings along the Sky Ramp, they always
explode on you. Not a problem if you're high level, but if you did
Onderon first, it could be tricky.
Not much to say at the moment. Use Energy Shields/Resistance, and plow
through the hordes of enemies on the Sky Ramp. One shot with Force Storm or
a couple with Force Wave can clear these guys out with little difficulty.
(Unless Onderon was your first planet, at which point it might take more) Be
sure to always check for remains.
At the first platform, just to the right is the first Turret Tower, over to
the left you can see the Barracks (which has a workbench and some searchable
lockers, ignore the guy when he tells you to go away). The force field up
ahead can be removed one of three ways:
1. ) Enter the Turret Tower and deactivate it with the console.
The tower also has a small amount of troops, a locker and a Turret
Defense Mini-Game. (800 XP)
2. ) Go up to the Force Field with a Lightsaber.
3. ) Have Bao-Dur punch the Force Field.
Once through, the Soldier there will talk to you. Doesn't matter what you say
he's going to die. Continue up the Sky Ramp, avoid the power coupling on the
left, and take out the Sith Soldier when you see him.
This takes us to the second Force Field. When you get close to it, they
talk to you. Respond with...
Dark Path > Nobody escapes. There' s nowhere you can hide.
> DSP > Mercy is for the weak.
Take out the Force Field with your Lightsaber, and go to town on these guys.
Show them why you're the General. Up at the top platform should be some Sith
Lords and more troopers. Take them out as well, then enter the palace.
Onderon Royal Palace
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Going ahead, you'll talk with Tobin (either side). For Queen supporters he
has locked himself in the next room, and mocks you. For General supporters
he's locked out with you and can't get in. The beast inside continues to
work on the next force-field, giving you plenty of time to get this door
opened.
This door is opened by finding the two consoles in the north and south
passageways.
Take the south passageway (map down) until it turns to the lowest hallway and
you are attacked by Sith behind a minefield. If you have Mira with you,
switch her to leader and walk right through the mines. Or hold your party
and go around, swtich to ranged weapons, force powers, etc. If you're doing
this as done in the walkthrough, you have enough Vitality to just walk over
the mines, no problem.
Ahead on your left (map up) will be a small conference room with some
fighting going on. Ignore it until the fighting in there ends, then just pick
up the pieces.
Skip the next door with the console by it and enter through the last door in
this hallway. Large group of enemies here, but almost entirely Energy based
attacks, making them a cinch to defeat.
Through the next door. Four "inactive" droids here... what are the odds that
they'll go active the second you try to go through the next door? 120%,
that's the odds. The only problem with these droids is they explode in
electric shocks when you kill them, making a direct lightsaber assault less
preferable to a distance "Force Storm" or "Destroy Droid" assault.
Through the next door, clear out the enemies here, including the
Vaklu/Royalist Captain in the back, then talk to Kiph. Whether you kill him
or not is largely up to you. Whatever you decide, use his Security Console
there, systems commands, unlock all security doors and Disable force cage
(if there's someone in there, like Riiken for Queen supporters). Then use
the Security Terminal again, systems commands and access the primary access
code and shutdown the terminal. (250 XP)
If you are working for Vaklu, you can just talk to the soldier to get
instantly taken back to the hall where you entered, otherwise you have to
walk all the way up there.
Once there take the north (map up) hallway. Go up, fight through the enemies
here until you see the door to the right (map right), the console by it
does nothing. Open the door and enter the museum. Once you clear out the
bad guys, loot the Museum Treasures in here. You get:
Ossus Keeper Robe
Viridian Crystal
Jal Shey Perception Gloves
Go through to the next room, clear out the bad guys here as well. Take the
things in the Metal box, then go out the last door.
This hallway might be cleared of enemies already, whichever side you are on
has troops of its own, you know. We get the XP for their deaths either way,
so it's all good.
The next door may have Kavar within, if you're siding with the Queen. Go
through this room to the next, and through that one as well. If there's
someone there to talk to, do so, and tell them you already have the Primary
Code, then he can take you insantly back to the beginning. If no one is there
use the console to get the Secondary code. If you haven't been in the last
room in this hall yet, don't have him take you to the main room yet.
The last doorway in the hall leads to the Storage room, but will require that
you solve an annoying number puzzle before it lets you in.
Solution:
Twice first key number exceeds value of its half by 99 ---> 66
Reversing second key's digits increases value by 1/5 ---> 45
Third key differs from the reverse of its digits by ---> 39
twice the product of its digits
Go in and loot the boxes there. I got a Solari Crystal and some minor
treasures. One metal box in there has a high degree of difficulty, and should
have some lightsaber crystals. Most people report getting a silver crystal
here.
Finally we're in! Lead the charge! The beast goes berserk, and you are going
to have to kill it before you can move on. Don't even try to get past it
without killing it. It has energy resistance of some sort, and a pretty
tough DEF in any case. It's immune to Insanity, but falls to Force Wave just
fine.
Enter the Throne Room to find a battle going on in here. General Vaklu and
Queen Talia are slugging it out, whilst their men shoot each other all
around. Time to join the battle. When you cross about 2/3 through the room,
all the opponents will just instantly fall dead. Oh...k.
Go up to the throne. You either fight Kavar and the Queen, or Vaklu and his
soldiers. You only need to "kill" Vaklu to end the fight. Kreia will then
want you to kill Vaklu for the good of Onderon. Here are your options:
- -INF- I can't do that. Everybody deserves a chance to redeem themselves.
- +INF+ You're right. If left free, he will bring nothing but suffering.
- +INF+ Although I respect your council, Kreia, the decision is the Queen's
not mine.
- -INF- Haven't you had enough blood, Kreia? I will not murder him when
he's defenseless.
If you kill Vaklu yourself (well, you order it), you also gain +INF+ with
Mandalore. (1000 XP)
If you sided with the Queen, you'll see Kreia healing Tobin and sending him
to the Sith with a message to destroy Telos.
If you sided with the Queen, talk with Kavar, ask whatever questions you
have, then he'll teach you another Lightsaber form. At that point, he'll
head off to Dantooine. Talia thanks you (750 XP) and you slowly walk out...
...and back to Dxun.
Meet up with your other group, get aboard your ship and blast off.
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13. Dantooine Again :DNAGN:
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Note: If there's anything left you want to do, say upgrade Geeda's shop on
Nar Shaddaa, you should do it before going back to Dantooine.
When you have found (or killed) all four Jedi Masters -- Master Vrook at
Dantooine, Master Zez-Kai Ell at Nar Shaddaa, Master Vash at Korriban and
Master Kavar at Onderon -- return to the Dantooine Enclave. It has been
rebuilt, and the Jedi Order restored. Or so you think.
If you took Kreia with you, she'll rest in the courtyard, sending you in
alone to meet the last of the Jedi. If you didn't bring her, she follows you
in later.
The meeting with the Jedi Council won't go quite the way anyone plans.
Whether you want to or not, you have to listen to their answers and their
explanations for what you are now. Say what you want, there are no Light or
Dark Side Points to be had. Bottom line, they want to cut you off
from the force again, but they never get that far. Kreia whups the council
in a single shot, and leaves you for dead.
When you get up, you gain a new ability, based on your alignment:
Light Side: Force Enlightenment - Activates the best of your Speed, Armor
and Valor abilities at once. You must have these powers
already at some level for this power to do anything.
Dark Side: Force Crush - an instant 100-200 damage to a single foe
Leave the Enclave, to be taken instantly to the Ebon Hawk. If you are Male,
Atton tells you that the Handmaiden (yours, not the other ones) took Kreia
out to Atris believing that Kreia killed you. If you are female, then the
other Handmaiden Sisters pick Kreia up. You'll get a cutscene with one of
your party members, typically Disciple (for female characters) or Visas
(for male characters), but it can sometimes be others. This is as close you
get to a romance in KotOR2.
Time to go back to Telos.
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14. Telos - Hidden Base Again :THBAA:
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Watch the cutscene of the meeting of the Darth Trayas, past and present.
Kreia once was as Atris is now.
If you are male, you get the Handmaiden cutscene as well. You have to decide
what to have Handmaiden say, but the results are the same, the Sisters fall.
Then you have to fight Atris with the Handmaiden. Atris is over-dependent on
Drain Life, which isn't that strong. When you beat her, she cheats and hits
you with Force Lightning that is strangely effective.
Enter, the main character. Atris has some words for you, then runs off.
Follow her up to her "Meditation Chamber", which is mostly just a collection
of Sith Holocrons. This quickly goes to battle. When she is defeated, she
gets talky. Find out that the Sith are striking from Malachor V, then decide
whether you want to kill her or not.
If you are Male, then once that is done, you go back to find the Handmaiden
alive and well. She admits her true name, and swears herself to your service.
Note: Despite how much dialogue there was here, none of it has any Light or
Dark Side Points, nor is there any Influence to be gained with
Handmaiden.
Time to save the day again.
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15. Telos - Citadel Station Again :TCSAN:
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You meet with Lt. Grenn here, who apprises you on the situation. Basically,
fight Sith, kill Sith, work your way to the shuttle to get to the Ravager.
Simple, really. Atton is in your party to start, but you can change it if you
want to. You're in the Ithorian compound, which is currently the acting
headquarters of the militia. As you leave, Mandalore tells you that he is
off to gather some troops for your assault on the Ravager.
If you go the other way, you'll find the TSF soldiers, as well as Chodo
Habat and Moza. But they aren't important, go back.
Continue on. Here Zherron (or Azkul, depending on how you did Dantooine) will
lead a charge against the Sith. Also here is Major Riiken, who if you talk to
will tell you that he needs help to defend the Telos fuel supply here.
Head out. Kill the Sith, recover the mines, and exit this area.
To Next
Area SS - Sealed,
| | Unopenable
-------SS----------------' `-------SS---------| Door
| | _______ _____ _T____ ______ S O - TSF Officer
Entrance | O T S T - Sith Turrets
------------------SS---------------SS---------|
The TSF Officer begs your assistance to clear out the gun turrets in this
area. You literally have no choice but to agree, then forward to attack.
Take out the turrets and their Sith Masters. Good opportunity to play with
your new Force Power, Enlightenment or Force Crush.
The passage to the next area is just ahead and left (map up).
-----
SS ---------
---| |
---- | OndS |
-------| |--| _ |
| || | Entrance
------- |W | d -----
|Cells| | | || |
| | | | || |
-----d| | | || | W - Workbench
|F | '-----'| | SS - Sealed Door, Unopenable
| --| SS | F - Sith for Fuel Sabotage Quest
-|-d-| | | | d - door
| | d | | | M - Mandalore rejoins
| | | | | | OndS - Wounded Onderon Soldier
| --d------ --SS---------- |
| | | |
-------- | | -----------------
| |------ |
| |
--- ---
| |
Shuttle | M |
to = |
Ravager -------
There is a wounded Onderon soldier here. With a [Treat Injury] you can tell
him that his wounds aren't too bad, and that he can continue fighting.
Or you can try to [Persuade] him to stay in the fight. However, if you fail
the Persuade, you can then "put you out of your misery" which is worth a
DSP. Besides that he isn't important.
Note: Oddly, if he dies after you have him join with you, his death prompts
a Dark Side Influence reaction from your compainons. I noticed this
when Atton suddenly asked about it and actually gained Influence.
Down to the door, and through into what was once the Entertainment Module.
Kill the Sith Trooper, open the Merchant door and clear out the Sith in
there. This gives you access to the workbench. If you have nothing to do with
it, don't worry, there's 2 more of these before the end of the game.
Continue to the end of the module, fighting Sith where you find them. Just
before you open the door to the next module, you'll see a Sith on the next
platform. If you stand back about 3 meters (about 2 steps), and lob a grenade
at him. Again. He can't hit you from there. Not very useful, but fun.
Through the Module Door and Mandalore rejoins you for your final charge into
the Ravager. Tell him that you aren't ready yet. Visas will automatically
join you. Take just that as your party for now.
Go up the last module door and into the old TSF offices. Clear out the first
room, gather their remains. There's nothing in the armory, sad to say.
Hit the next room, and clear it out as well. They have a Dark Jedi with them,
but he's a pushover. Once all of them are dead, you get 600 XP for solving
the "Bonus Quest: Fuel Sabotage". (not listed as a sidequest because you can
do it on your way, and we got this from Major Riiken back in the Ithorian
compound)
Back to Mandalore, and from there to the Ravager.
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16. The Ravager :TRVGR:
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|| d - Door T - Colonel Tobin
| | M - Missile Bay Vc - Visas's Cell
| | W - Workbench
| | C - Console for Missile Bay
| | 1,2,3,4 - Bomb Sites
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Your Mandalorian forces begin the fighting for you, blasting the Sith in your
way. Who doesn't want to lead a charge of Mandalorians, anyway? Mandalore's
basic strategy here is to plant Proton Mines around the ship at four separate
locations. Of course, you have to be the one to planet the Proton Cores.
Mandalore joins you here, so take him and Visas.
Turn around, go back to the room where the battle took place and search it
for remains. This will be our way out later, once Darth Nihilous is dead and
the four Proton Cores are mined throughout the ship. Return to the other room
and search the locker for shinies. I'd use a Master Energy Resistance here,
and keep it up while you're on this ship
Ahead through the next door, then take a right through that door. Fight
through the Sith here and take their remains.
Follow this hall down through the next door. More Sith Elite Troopers here,
sweep them up. Open the locked door to the side, then the locked locker on
the inside corner to your right.
Down and through the next door. Enter the first side room on your left (map
right). Kill the Sith, get their remains, search the lockers.
Back to the hallway, follow it as it turns back up, then through the first
door on the right. If you want a more efficient exit, skip this room, and
hit it last. This is the FIRST BOMB site, so place a Proton Core. (250 XP)
Tell the Mandalorians to sit tight.
Back to the hall, and follow it as it goes on (map right). This leads to a
small room with Sith, and a door to your left (map up). Kill the Sith, then
through the door. Before you open the next door, be sure to renew your
Energy Resistance. Open it and go through.
It's a large group of Sith! Such groupings were made for group effect powers
like Force Storm, Insantiy, Force Wave and so on. Beyond that, just run
around and kill them. Before going through the door to your right (map right)
take the door just ahead (map up).
This takes us to a room with more Sith (and if we kept going this way, back
to where we came in). Kill them, take their things. Then search the Locked
Locker in here. The door to the left (map left) leads back the way we came,
so go back down, turn left and through the door.
You can see straight into the rest of the ship, but turn right first. There
is a locked door here (DC 55 to open... wow) with a locker inside. Back to
the hallway.
Go straight up the hallway, again ignoring the large opening (although we'll
get there shortly), then around as the hallway turns. Enter the first door
on your right to find the Missile Bay. This is where we pick up the FOURTH
PROTON CORE later. It's important. Remember it. There is also a workbench in
here if you need it. Search the two lockers in here, then go. (You can't
use the Missile Bay Control at the end of the room yet, but again, soon)
Go out, back into the hallway, turn right (map right) and follow this hall
to its the intersection. Ignore passages to the left (dead end) and right
(for now) and go straight through the door ahead. Kill the Sith and loot
their corpses. Get the loot in the locker as well.
Now it's time to head down into the large central passage in the ship. There
is another group of Sithlings here. Kill them, take their stuff. Now take
the lower hallway (map down) and into the locked door on the right (DC 55).
Just a locker in here. Ignore the room across the hall, it's empty. Although
this hallway dead ends, follow it to the end anyway to find SECOND BOMB site.
(250 XP) Set a core and back to the large passage.
This time take a right (map right) and up the ramp. Kill the Sith Commandos
here and raid their remains. Turn right and go through the bottom door (map
down). This is a huge amount of Sith to go through, but a single Stasis
Field or Insanity and they'll stand there looking at you. Or a couple Force
Storms and they're toast. Or Master Speed + Master Flurry on each one. They
won't last long. Search them when they're gone. Turn left, (map right) and
open the locked door (DC 55) to the small room. Just a locked locker in here.
(DC 21)
From where we came in, go around to the other door that goes in the same
direction (map up), open it and go up through this, the next door, and
through this area (map up).
And there's Colonel Tobin. No matter what way you did Onderon, he's still
right there. Nutty as a loon, and Dark as a Sith. Talking to him won't reveal
much of what's going on, except that he was the mysterious Sith Lord that
allied with Vaklu, and that as a price, Tobin was corrupted. Further, Tobin
believes you have absolutely no chance against Darth Nihilous. Eh. If you
aren't Persuasive enough, you'll have to kill him. If you kill him, Mandalore
will approve, +INF+. Sometimes Visas reacts here as well.
When he is dealt with, turn right and go over to the Security Door (DC 55).
There's a couple of lockers in here.
Go across to the door at the opposite side of the room (map left), and
through, then turn right (map up), and go through. Turn right (map right)
and follow the hall until the first room on the left (map up) and in to
get the FOURTH BOMB site (we skipped by the third one, it's in the lower part
of this hall). (250 XP) Once this proton core is set, the Mandalorians tell
you that they lost the fourth one and that you'll need to get a new one
before you can finish here.
We could go do that now, but we'll get it on the way out after dealing with
Nihilous.
Almost done on this level. Back to the hallway, and follow it around, then
down, skip past the door to the bridge, and into the lower hallway. When you
get by the "Cell Door" Visas will stop you, and will ask to meditate within
her chambers. Let her, it gives her a bonus to Maximum Force Points and can
allow her to hit Light/Dark Side Mastery if she's close to it.
Enter her cell, turn left and open the Security Door (DC 55). Just a couple
of lockers. There's one more room along this hallway, with another locker.
Then this hallway dead ends at the THIRD BOMB site, but we don't have a
bomb.
To the bridge! Just have to get through one room of Sith, and we're there.
Ravager - Bridge
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There's a locked locker here. Get it, then through the door.
Sith to fight in this room. Kill them then search their remains. There's a
locked locker over to your right and up.
Open the nearby door (map up), it's locked. Go in and search all the lockers
here. Back out, and across to the next door.
Another room, another group of Sith standing together. Perfect opportunity
for a Force Storm. Take them out, search for remains, then through to the
next door.
This group of enemies has a couple Dark Jedi with them. Kill them, search the
nearby locker, then through the next door.
More Sith and Dark Jedi. Take them out, search the locker, then go up through
the upper doorway. Search the three lockers at the end of this room, then
back the way you came.
Open the last door (map left) and through. There's one locker in this little
room, then the last door to the ACTUAL bridge. Visas will warn you about
her former master one last time. Open the door and go through.
It is simply a long, long walk over to Darth Nihilous. A long walk. When you
get there, it cutscenes out. Nihilous stuns you instantly. Visas attempts to
exchange her life for yours here. He then attempts to draw energy off you,
which turns out to be a bad idea. Fight time!
BOSS: Darth Nihilous
Nihilous actually uses Dark Side force powers, which means you actually can
put those items that say "Force Resist +??" to good use. His DEF should be
around where you can hit him about half the time. He seems physically weak,
if you gang up on him with four lightsabers (2 for you, and 2 for Visas) --
using either Master Flurry or Master Critical Strike -- he will fall
quickly.
Of course, when he gets around halfway down, Visas stops the fight for a
cutscene. She holds it together, somehow, and the battle starts again. Unlike
Sion, Nihilous doesn't heal himself, so just keep attacking.
When that is done, Visas takes his mask off to see the man underneath. Be
sure to ask for the Mask, it gives you a small bonus to your Maximum
Force Points to have it. (No, you can't wear it) (1000 XP)
Nihilous melts, and we're done. Time to get the last Proton Core, set it and
get off this ship. Run all the way off the bridge, and back to the Missile
Bay, the same room with the Workbench in the previous area. On the map it is
marked as "Maintenance Bay & Workbench."
Once in the Maintenance Bay, go to the end of the room, and use the Missile
Bay Control.
> Activate the launch sequence.
> Override the emergency sequence.
> Log out.
Now go over to the missile and use it. Remove the Proton Core. If you
followed this walkthrough, you now need to go to BOMB SITE 3, which is in
the other hallway, lower section. Go there, drop the last Proton Core, and
go. Get back to your escape (where we came in) and leave. Once off the ship,
it goes "boom."
Your ship leaves Telos station, and flies straight for Malachor V.
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17. Malachor V - Endgame :MLCRV:
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/ + ____ * - Downed Ship
_| ___ / __*| + - Corpse, with Treasure
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You're alone. All alone. It's kinda cheap that you spend a game figuring out
ways to turn your companions into Jedi, leveling them up and giving them
equipment to be ditched by them now.
Note: In general, walking over the glowing green parts of the paths results
in poison mines going off. These are invisible mines that you can't
disarm, so just avoid the green.
Anyway, leave the Ebon Hawk, and go down the path. There are Storm Beasts
throughout this area, but they're just big bruiser types. One quick flurry
typically takes them out in a single attack. Or stun them with a Critical
Strike or Force Power. At this point in the game, if you haven't already, you
should abandon items that improve DEF for items that improve STATS. You'll
be taking hits, and by this point, there's almost no way to get your DEF high
enough to make any difference. Now we just want to kill them before they even
attack you.
You don't have to do anything at all in this area. It's helpful for later to
kill all the Storm Beasts, so definitely do that, but beyond that you can
just head straight to the Malachor Depths. The "downed ships" you see around
with their damaged consoles are used later, and not by you. (Well, by you
the player, but not your main character)
I have to assume you want it step by step, and gather all the items from the
Corpses littered around. Go forward to the first intersection, then straight
ahead ignoring the turns. Follow this, turn to go up, then slightly right
into the "Buried Republic Ship". Skip the console, and get the items from
the Corpse.
Go out and follow the wall as it curves on your LEFT. Then go down. Kill any
Storm Beasts you find here. There's a corpse over map left, usually with a
lightsaber crystal. Once they're all dead, go down.
There might be more Storm Beasts here. Kill them, then take the FIRST turn
to your RIGHT. This will curve around for a while, search the first corpse
just before it narrows in the "V" section.
Down through the narrow bit, then back up. Kill any Storm Beasts around.
Just keep following this passage. The first clearing (the triangle clearing)
has nothing, but the next clearing (the round clearing) has a corpse. Keep
going up and we're back at the first intersection. This time, keep going up.
Follow this around, and about halfway through you'll find a corpse with
shinies.
Follow this passage back to where we were before, but this time take the
SECOND turn to your right. This leads to what is essentially a loop, either
direction will take you to the next pathway we need to go to. Do one quick
circuit to kill the Storm Beasts. Once you've cleared the loop, follow the
lower passage. There's a corpse just before the bridge. Follow this and cross
the bridge.
Once you are across, if you have Mira, then you get a cutscene involving her
and Hanharr. Keep going.
This opens up to a larger clearing. Keep going to hit the bottom of the map.
You don't have to go into the "pointy" bit at the end. Follow the bottom of
the map, but don't go down into any of the ends. This just leads along to
the next Buried Republic Ship, with a Corpse just outside it. There's no need
to enter this one at all.
Out and up. Keep going up, kill the Storm Beasts. Then skip the area to the
right, it's a pointless dead end, and go left (NOT the left that leaves this
area). There is a small dead-end to your left up there, with a corpse, and
a larger clearing with two corpses in it. Search them, then back, and out
of this area.
Malachor Depths
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Go out and fight the Storm Beasts. Don't let them gang up on you, if possible
fight them in a line. They only really do damage if they surround you and
attack at once before you kill them. Go out and take a right turn (map up).
This then forks, take the right fork first. Go up and kill these Storm
Beasts. There's then a nearby corpse and another Buried Republican Ship.
Again there's no point in going inside, so back to the Fork.
Go up the other path of the fork to the very end. You get a nice view of the
Trayus Academy, where we're going next. For now, though, just search the
Corpse for loot.
Back out to where we came in, then just keep going (map down). Clear out any
Storm Beasts. There's also a corpse right there. Take the lower path and
follow that along, then along the right hand wall, keep going until you
find the next buried Republican Ship. Go in and get the corpse's items.
Go out, turn left (map up-left) and go towards the round clearing. Get the
items from that corpse, then turn around and take the upper passage. If you
take this all the way, at the last turn left there's a corpse. Otherwise take
the first turn left (map up) and through the horrible looking gate. You will
be fighting a Greater Storm Beast in here. Once you get halfway in the doors
in and out will close forcing you to defeat it before moving on.
Tip: If you want to avoid the fight, when you enter, just get as close to
the right wall as possible, and just follow that out.
Once through, just go up and enter Trayus Academy. Sith Assassins now bow to
you. Weird. Don't get used to it.
Mira vs. Hanharr
If you got Mira, you'll get her sequence next. She will be fighting against
Hanharr. The absolute easiest way to deal with him is a simple run and gun.
Run, shoot, run, shoot. Etc. You can even "bank" a level-up here for the
healing if you need it, but you probably won't. Once he is defeated he asks
for Mira to kill him and end his suffering.
Bao-Dur's Remote
No matter what, you'll have the Remote sequence next. Bao-Dur asks the Remote
to fix the Mass Shadow Generator. It amounts to just going out to the four
Buried Republican Ships, and using their damaged Consoles to activate it.
You won't have to fight anything if the Exile cleared this place out, however
if you didn't kill everything, the remote will face those Storm Beasts. The
remote can't win against these, upgrades or no, and you can't change its
equipment or give it levels.
Run to the four Republican ships in the two areas, use the consoles and
you're done. (250 XP each) G0-T0 arrives after that, and basically holds the
Remote hostage. This means that if you are Light Side, the Remote will win
this confrontation, but if you are Dark Side, then G0-T0 will win it.
The Trayus Academy
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You'll immediately face one "Elite Sith Assassin." The other enemies will
stay in the back for now, so this is an easy fight. These enemies will fight
with melee weapons, however, you'll soon be fighting Sith Lords and Marauders
who fight with lightsabers. Use whichever Powers/Shields you need.
After that are three groups of 3 assassins. Less of an easy fight. You need
to have Master Speed in order to get through them quickly, otherwise you'll
be taking hits as you try to work your way through them. The easiest way I've
found to take these guys is Force Storm, which can sometimes (level
dependent) clear them out in 2 usages. Or you can use Force Crush on them one
by one.
Both doors will end out the same place in the end, but we're taking the right
door first. Open it and go through.
Three more assassins wait past the second door. Kill them, then turn right
and run and gun down this curved hallway. They all group together, making
group attack powers like Force Storm and Wave perfect. Work your way to the
bottom, then back up, and through the right door (map right). More enemies
to work on all down this hallway. Ignore the door out for now, and work your
way to the bottom to get a locked Metal Box. Up to the door on the right and
into the Trayus Proving Grounds.
The Trayus Proving Grounds
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Note: You can see how Malachor was cut here. When you've explored this area
check your map to see "Map Notes" to places you can't get to called
the "West Cells" and "Meditation Chamber."
In simple terms, we're working our way through this area, to get back to
the previous area in a different spot so we can face Darth Sion. You can do
this on the other side as well, but I chose this one. Be ready for battle and
open up the first door.
Assassins and troopers. Again in a small tight group, easy for smacking with
a major area effect Force Power, or Master Speed + Flurry your way through
them. The point is to kill as fast and efficient as possible. Kill and move
on through the next door. Kill and move on through the next door. And one
more time, through the door up to your left.
There are a couple more Sith Marauders in this room. Take them out, then turn
right and go down this hallway. Ignore the side doors, and hit the last door.
Kill the 6 Sith Troopers in here. This gets you to the last workbench in the
game, a useful thing to have if you need to upgrade things to take on the
final boss battles. Make sure you have the absolute BEST of what you can
equip and upgrade. There's nothing left after this so burn up all your
components making things.
5 of these doors go nowhere, you want the middle one on the right. This room
has Sith Marauders and Dark Jedi in it, followed by a room full of Troopers.
Again protect yourself from Energy type attacks, use area effects like Force
Storm, or just Master Speed / Flurry through them one by one. When they're
good and dead, go up through the next door.
Nothing in this long room, so through to the next room. Heavy Defense Turrets
here. Nothing special. Move on. This last room has Sith Lords and Marauders
in it to complicate things, but if you move fast, they won't last long
anyway. Work your way through the next room and its Sith, and the next room
and its Sith.
Turn right, and through that door. Sith Commandos and gun Turrets. Nothing
you can't handle. Through the last door, then out to the left. Back into the
Trayus Academy.
The End Game
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Once you're back, immediately take out the Assassins and Dark Jedi here, then
search the nearby Metal Boxes for loot. Through the next door, take out the
Dark Jedi here. Through the last door, then go right towards that door, and
you meet up with Darth Sion.
BOSS: Darth Sion
You cannot beat Darth Sion in battle without beating him in conversation
first. You basically just have to convince him that he can be defeated.
Each time you talk to him you can chip away at his belief system a little
more until finally he will go down and stay down. You weaken him by making
the [Persuade] and [Wisdom] checks as they come up, this only makes him
easier to fight, you still have to fight him.
As for the battle itself, you can use the same tactics as you did if you
fought Vrook. Run away, get a column between you and him, then rest, heal
and even set mines if you want to. Verpine Prototype Shields work really
well here, if you can't pull of a Master Speed + Flurry, which should knock
him out in a single attack.
Beat him four times regardless and you win. He has a random lightsaber, he
should have a Dark Jedi Master Robe and a Barab Ore Ingot (lightsaber
crystal) and probably has a Refined Phobium Emitter. You'll have to go back
to the workbench now if you want these in.
At this point you can enter the other side of the Academy, if you want the
XP (the items are fairly meaningless at this point, but you may get a good
random item drop). But the walkthrough goes on, through the last door to
confront Kreia.
There's absolutely nothing here except Kreia, the former and again current
Darth Traya, well, who knows what she is now. What do you call someone who
believes in the death of the Force? Even the Sith wouldn't want that. You can
ask her questions before the battle if you want, or just leap straight into
the fight.
BOSS: Kreia -- Kreia always seems to have twice your vitality, no matter what
level you are on.
Kreia rushes straight at you with a Lightsaber, which is easily countered
with a good Energy Shield on hand. Also, in the grand tradition of ducking
around corners, you can just run around one of the columns to ditch her
if you need to. Besides that she might also fight with any Force Abilities
that you gave her as she leveled up.
When Kreia is defeated she all but begs for you to kill her. You can say
whatever you want here, the result will be the same. She summons up three
lightsabers to chase you and kill you with.
This is a little more difficult of a battle than the one with Kreia. Almost
without exception if you stand and fight them 1-on-3 you will die and
swift. Which brings up the run and gun tactic from before, except that it
is very hard to shake them behind a corner. But you needn't take it that
far, they are weak if you can get them alone. All you need to do is run
until they spread out in a straight line, turn and attack. Run, turn and
attack. Also remember that once you are considered "out of combat" you can
use medpacs from your inventory screen directly. (if you are considered
"in combat" you can do so as well, but only 1 per combat round)
If you do get to running around, there are actually a few searchable
corpses along the two long pathways at "10" o'clock and "1" o'clock.
Also, if you ditch them completely, you can simply go back to Kreia and
attack her directly. At that point she is completely defenseless.
Once beaten you can decide whether to save her or kill her. Be sure to ask
about the Future either way, to learn what happens to everyone after all
this is over.
Based on your Light/Dark alignment, you get the light or dark ending.
THE END
SPOILER>>>
In the Light Side Ending, your ship flies off into the distance.
In the Dark Side Ending, you stay on Malachor V, presumably to rebuilt the
ships there to conquer the Universe (unseen).
END SPOILER---
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Tweaks, Exploits and Outright Cheats :CHTSS:
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Right now the cheats list is for Xbox only, however, they may still work for
the PC version. I'll know for sure later.
Infinite Experience on Dantooine (from Saedar Knyghtmoon)
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There is an infinite monster spawn point in the Kinrath Caves on Dantooine
near the spot where you get your name crystal. What happens is: enter, kill
all the hatchlings, and then loot the room. Now, BEFORE leaving the room,
save my game and turned the system (Xbox only) off. So, then when I turned it
on again and got swarmed by kinrath hatchlings, I figured I had a bug. What
you do for reproducability is, clear the room of hatchlings, save the game,
load the game, and then try to leave the crystal room, the hatchlings will
respawn.
Kathryn Garcia clarifies this: In the crystal cave, there are kinrath
hatchlings that swarm you. After you defeat them, you can fight them over and
over again by switching party members, and going to the entrance of the
crystal area. This can go on and on, and they are very easy.
Infinite Experience Exploit (OK, Cheat)
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There is exactly one enemy spawn point in the game, and fortunately (or
unfortunately) the designers placed its power in your hands. In the Sith
Tomb at the back of the Shyrack cave you will find a body of a Dead Jedi,
surrounded by some columns. Every time you search the body, Hssiss will
appear (both normal and the Dragon type). Kill them for experience.
It really helps (and shows the power of the dark side) if you have Lightning
Storm. It does 1-6 damage per level, save for half. Four to five shots of
that could clear a room of anything at low levels, three to four at higher.
Other things that help this are Death Field (you heal a lot if you fight
more than 12 at a time), Force Barrier (to reduce their attacks) or a
Mandalorian Melee shield.
If you're Dark Side, select the body 20 times, if you're light side... um...
six or so.
So, search the body as many times as you want in a row, fight a dozen or
more Hssiss and repeat. No limit. But boy is this a cheat. Found this my
first time through the game and was all excited until I saw everyone already
knew about it. Ah well. No secret for me.
Lee Wallace has some thoughts about this cheat:
One way for a lightsider to work through them faster using lightning - is if
you have the drain force mastery, you can use power to drain force from them
to get your Force back up to snuff. I played through this as a Jedi Master,
and from almost no force I was able to refill my force bar no problem using
this technique. The important thing is to use this before your first attack,
as you will get very little force back from them as their health goes down.
Force Wave can also be very useful here, as the ones closest to you are
usually stunned, preventing the angry ones you missed at the back from
attacking you.
Regenerate Force Points Instantly (from DDays):
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If you'll note, when you remove wisdom boosting equipment, your force
points (both maximum and current) take a hit (WIS affects force points
same as CON affects vit apparently). Anyway, with low enough force
points, when you take off your equipment, the force points go into
negative. Negative force points allow you an extra force power. I
would recommend casting force valor for this extra one, since your
force points get set to 0 after the negative force cast, and you get
2*level force points back, and then even more if you replace your
equipment. The good thing about this is, you can do this during combat
and effectively have infinite force points.
Heal and Attack at the Same time: (from sonicandfffan)
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Anyway, I'd taken damage while fighting some of the monsters and used
Improved heal (further testing proves it works with Master heal too!).
Anyway, while he was healing I set the next attack as improved flurry
(it works with all physical melee attacks as far as I know). The heal
appeared next in line. Strange, but I thought nothing of it until it
cast improved heal on me for NO FORCE POINTS. A nice glitch, but
nothing major. But it also USED improved flurry. This works on all the
powers/attacks in the line (ie flurry, improved flurry and master
flurry) Melee + force power with 0 cost.
Summary: Cast any heal-line spell (let it work). While you are casting
the spell (ie it appears in the big red box), select (press A) on one
of the melee attacks (flurry-line, power-line, critical strike-line),
I believe even attack will do. The skill will line up as normal, then
enter the red box, and heal will be next in line. Both the attack and
heal will be executed.
I haven't tried any other powers but I think it might work (still
playing light side), hope it could be tested further. Just to add, the
power appears in the red box (current attack box) and doesn't seem to
cost force points. The glitch can be repeated so you CAN select on one
of the melee attacks AGAIN while your duel attack is executing.
Infinite Experience with Mines (from Mark Lovato):
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While looking for other info on the game I had come across another good point
which was to set mines (up to 15 total) in an area. Go then to a transition
point where the area needs to be loading. You then go back to same area you
just were and retrieve the mines for exp and then reset the same mines again.
The civilians are never harmed and by the time my base demo got beyond 10 my
XP increased as a result, repeat however often and what level you wish to
reach.
Now the key factor to all this is the more lethal the mine the more exp
gained.
I had made 5 Deadly Blinding / Stun mines and found 3 Deadly Sonic mines, 7
Average Sonic mines and I end up with over 3,000 exp every time I planted the
mines, left and came back to retrieve only to then reset the same mines. So
imagine once I have enough resource for 15 Devastating Gas (30 point Demo
skill) or Devastating Plasma ( 29 point Demo skill) what the exp results will
turn out, oooh-fu.
Infinite Experience, Nar Shaddaa (from James Uson):
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1. Kill Serocco gang
2. Get quest from Hussef (middle of refugee camp) to persuade Exchange to
lessen their pressure on the refugees
3. Find Geriel, talk to him bout his disease to get the journal entry
"Plague Carrier"
4. Talk to Saquesh:
a-->"There is a diseased refugee",
b-->"[Persuade] Lessen your hold on them...", (always succeeds)
c--> "I don't have the skills need to cure him"
d-->then pick last option to close the conversation
5. Get journal entry of completed quest: "You have given refugees some space
by defeating the Serocco and persuading the Exchange... (paraphrase)", as
well as 1000 XP.
6. Repeat the whole conversation process right there on step #4 (you don't
necessarily have to pick option 'c' as a response the next time around,
you can simply pick the bottommost option to close the conversation) to
get the ones on #5...
NOTE (1): This works quite well and on par with the Korriban glitch. Since
this trick doesn't have you using Force Powers, or even be in
combat, then you won't be hassled by recharging FPs and losing time
for that. Works well for LS, DS, NS characters.
NOTE (2): Just keep Geriel uncured and Saquesh alive and you can keep doing
this through to the end of the game when you cant go to different
planets anymore. You can do this exp glitch, finish Nar Shadaa,
come back, do this exp glitch, finish Dantooine, come back, do this
exp glitch.. so on..
Infinite Influence With Atton (Some XP Too)
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Go to Nar Shaddaa, and gather the parts to repair the Airspeeder (see that
section above).
In order to get infinite influence for Atton, you need to install the
Airspeeder Navigation Interface from Tienn Tubb's place and have Atton
handle unlocking the security controls. Then, if it's not too late, you
need to kill Kodin and get his Airspeeder Navigation Interface as well.
Then you attempt to install it again but this time you can do it over
and over again because the game doesn't take it up. It only works if
you installed the Interface from Tienn Tubb's place first, then go get
the other one. (from Andrew Ngo)
Infinite Influence with Handmaiden (from Dr. Love)
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Spar with the Handmaiden for the second time (For me this was on Nar Shadda,
after killing the mercenaries leveling to a prestige class but before going
to any other planet). Agree to the conditions of the duel*, which are no
items, lightsaber, or force powers(nor can you wear armor but she doesn't
mention this; man is this game buggy). Let the duel begin, and immediately
use a force power. She'll stop & say you violated the terms of the duel.
Explain to her that you were trying to teach her something about false
situations & imposed limitations. You can bring up her father, whatever, be
mean or not, just make sure you tell her at the end of the conversation that
you were just trying to teach her something. You'll get +INF+. If you offer
to duel her again, and break the rules again, you'll gain more +INF+. Huzzah!
Man was this thing rushed out the door.
You can say "I only wanted to teach you a lesson, humiliating you is just a
bonus." at the end of the conversation for infinite DSPs in the same manner.
Note: If you have a lightsaber equipped, the game will crash at the end
of the dialogue.
Infinite Experience Trick - Sith Assassins (from Ryan Godfrey)
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Trick I came across on Dxun. Right before you leave for Onderon, Sith
Assassins attack the Mandalorian camp. Kill all the assassins near the
fighting circle, then make your way to the "upper" camp. When you enter the
clearing, it will pause, and you'll see 6 sith assassins appear around a
mandalorian. Kill them. Now, the battlefield is open to you, if you go near
the entrance to Mandalore's building, a bunch of assassins will decloak and
attack you. Do NOT go near the entrance. Instead, hug the wall and make
your way over to where Xarga was training the recruits. There should be 2
sith assassins there getting mobbed by reruits. Help out and kill them.
Then turn your attention to the entrance to the camp, the guards should be
fighting 2-3 sith assassins, make your way over there, kill them. Turn
around, 2 more assassins will have appeared back by Xarga. Kill them, 2 more
appear near the entrance. Repeat for as long as you'd like, when you've had
enough, go over to the other side of the clearing, near Mandalore's building
and when those uncloak and you kill them, you leave for Onderon.
Duplicate Lightsabers... Again and Again (Xbox)
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Another glitch with some deviously good benefits. Get another Jedi in
your party and give them a Lightsaber. Hit the workbench and upgrade their
lightsaber. Change the color crystal in the saber and press (X) to asssemble.
Now select the saber again, go to the color crystal selection again, don't
select one, just hit (X) again to assemble on the spot. You now have doubled
that lightsaber.
Now SAVE then immediately RELOAD that save. This is critically important,
as it turns it from a glitchy lightsaber (where if you remove something from
one, it removes from its double) to a full fledged, real lightsaber.
To duplicate the Exile's lightsaber, simply have your companion use the
workbench and do the trick as normal.
Extra lightsabers is neat and all, but the real purpose is to duplicate
Crystals and Lenses/Emitters/Cells. And of course, an infinite item bug leads
to extra money and components.
Super-Sabers Cheat (Xbox, by: Roger Pruitt)
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You can put 2 of the same power crystal in a lightsaber and an additional one
as well!
NOTES: 1) I recommend saving before using the cheats, because my game has
reset itself a few times while I was using the copy lightsaber
cheat.
2) You will lose one of the duplicate crystals while performing this
glitch. So, before using this glitch, use the lightsaber copy
glitch to make lots of your best crystals.
3) If you change crystals--even a color crystal--after using this
cheat, you have a normal lightsaber again... :( no copying the new
"Supersabers" to save time.
4) One last thing, if 2 crystals in the SAME lightsaber both modify
the same attribute (WIS for example) they do not stack, you will
only get the bonus for the highest one.
Here was Mira's lightsaber in my game before the glitch.
Crystal, Upari Pontite Lens
Crystal, Sliver Expert Fencing Emitter
Crystal, Kaiburr Ultimate Diatium Energy Cell
Damage, Energy 13-48 Attack +4 Defense +2 CON +3 WIS +3 Regen 3
Here is how to add another crystal.
1) Equip the power crystal you want to use 2 of in the bottom crystal
slot and unequip the top crystal, and hit assemble. (In my case I'll
equip the Upari Crystal in the bottom)
2) Exit the workbench.
3) Use the workbench to select the same lightsaber, and then select the
empty top power crystal slot. You now will have the option to put
the same crystal you are using in the bottom slot again. Select it
and hit assemble. (I'll equip another Upari Crystal)
4) Select the same lightsaber one last time. It has the same stats as
before, but now it only has one crystal in the top slot and the
bottom slot is free. You now put any other power crystal here and
laugh maniacally as you tear through all who oppose your might! (I'll
drop in a Kaiburr crystal for Mira's)
Mira's finished lightsaber looks the same as before, but now it has:
Damage, Energy 14-56 Attack +7 Defense +2 CON +3 WIS +3 Regen 3
This one works great with 2 of your named crystals in it as well! You only
get the attribute pluses once, but as you know it has awesome pluses to hit
and damage--especially if you are using the XP cheats to get to level 50.
The "100 Crystal Saber". -- by Mark Singer
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If for some reason this doesn't work, email TheRebornOne@aol.com, and I'll
check it out, it may have been a type-o or something. I assure you that I'll
get it fixed and have your sabers doing as much damage as you want.
You can add as many power crystals that you want to add to any one of the
lightsabers you have. Before doing this, make sure you have duplicated many
of the same power crystal that you want to put in, since they'll be
dissappearing. Dupe a good 20 of the ones you want to use, see step one.
Step 1: Duplicate a whole lot of the same crystal you want to put many of
into your saber by using the "duplicate saber" trick (as found in
this guide), but with the crystal you want to put in that saber many
times.
Step 2: Go to a workbench and modify the saber. Empty the bottom power
crystal, and the top one. Add the crystal you want to put many of
into the saber, into the bottom power crystal slot. Assemble and
leave bench.
Step 3: Enter the bench and modify it again, now put the same type of
crystal into the top slot. Assemble.
Step 4: Before leaving the bench, highlight your saber and you'll see that
the bottom crystal is now gone, vanished, but the effects are still
in the saber. Now, remove the crystal that is in the top slot, and
place it in the bottom slot. (there is now no crystal in the top,
because you moved it to the bottom to replace the "vanished"
crystal.) Assemble.
Step 5: Exit the bench, re-enter, modify saber, and place the same type of
crystal you've been using into the top slot. Assemble, and, before leaving
the bench, go back into your saber. Once again, you see the bottom power
crystal slot is empty, so move the top crystal to the bottom slot again.
Assemble, leave the bench and enter bench again. Modify your saber and place
another duped crystal into the top slot. Assemble, re-enter the saber and
the bottom crystal is missing, the effects are again fused with the saber...
I think you see where this is going.
NOTES: You'll see, the more you do this, the more the benefits of the
crystals are stacking. Just keep repeating the steps. If you have a
crystal that adds damage, every crystal that disappears, plus the
crystals that show up in the saber slots, all stack in benefits
(unless it's Regeneration, or Wisdom, Charisma, etc.) Damage, all
types of damages, bonus to hits, all of that stacks.
When you're doing the glitch, just after you take the top crystal out of the
top slot and put it in the bottom, you can stop there and put a different
crystal in the top slot, or go a step further, and leave the bench, enter it
again, modify saber, and add one last of the crystals you were using, into
the top slot for more stacking benefits.
Credits: I have to give Roger Pruitt credit for discovering the basis of
this exploit, I only discovered the infinite stacking accidentally while
trying to use his "super saber" exploit. I noticed that I had done it and
tryed to back-track to see how, now that I've got it mastered, I give it to
you. Sorry Roger, your super saber is now nothing compared to my 300 fire
damage Double saber :) You're lucky I stopped at 300. :)
Infinite Money/Components, the Stripper Way (Xbox, from Travis Roy)
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When you get Handmaiden, you have her teach you the first lesson. After you
win, she still isn't wearing any clothes. Put clothes on the Exile and ask
her to put some on as well, she says yes and puts robes on. Go into your
inventory, and take her robes off, then ask her to put some clothes on again,
she will put on another set of robes and you will have duplicates, repeat as
many times as you want. These sell for between 1800 and 2200, depending on
the shop.
Editor's Note: A cheat only for Male characters.
Also a good source for Components, as they can be broken down
for 200 (with a good Repair skill).
Handmaiden's Robe trick BONUS (Xbox, from Ganja Fett)
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Make sure you only have ONE Handmaiden's robe in your inventory, and then
upgrade it. (I used Ballistic 2 overlay, and BioRegenerative 5 underlay).
Save and then Load the game.
Now do the Robe trick as normal, as many times as you want. (I will use 20 as
an example) The Robes will all now have been duplicated WITH the selected
upgrades. All the extra robes should be stacked on the item list, instead of
being a single item, with a 20.
***Warning: If you try and save the game at this point, or do anything to the
extra Robes, the game will reset itself, and you will lose all the bonus
upgraded robes you just created.
So instead, LEAVE the Ebon Hawk, by yourself. This will force the game to
Save, and then Load, as it always does when entering/leaving a new area.
Once outside, look at the item list and you will see all the bonus robes are
now a single item, with a 20. Save and then Load the game. Your extra robes
should now be glitch-proof.
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Compontents:
You can go to Tien Tubb's workbench, remove the 20 Robes upgrades and convert
them all (robes, overlays, underlays) to components at a much faster rate
than just breaking down 20 robes themselves.
Now have Handmaiden join your party, and go to change her clothers/armor, and
you will see 20 more robes listed, though without any upgrades. Break them
down as well for even more components.
Save and then Load the game, before trying to use any of your new components.
***Note: Components made from duped robes or upgrades will be "glitchy" until
you Save and Load. After that, you should be able to use them however you
want.
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Credits:
You can go to Tien Tubb's workbench, remove the 20 Robes upgrades, and sell
them all (robes, overlays, underlays) to Oondar or Geeda for a lot of
credits. Selling the upgraded robes will NOT get you any extra money, you
will be paid the same as if they were not upgraded at all, so you will want
to remove any upgrades before you sell the robes.
Handmaiden's Robe itself is worth 1800 credits from Oondar, The
BioRegenerative 5 underlay itself is worth 3000+ credits... If I remember
right.
***Note: Credits gained from selling duped robes or upgrades seem to be
normal. Never hurts to Save and Load though, so just do it.
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Remember, after changing your extra robes into components or cash, make sure
you Save, then Load the game. Repeat these two tricks as often as you want,
it seems to be limitless. If you breakdown or sell them all, you can get
another robe from Handmaiden, but you will have to upgrade it all over again.
If at any point in these processes, your game resets, you have missed an
opportunity to Save and Load. If you try to Save and the game resets, go
back, and try leaving/entering the Ebon Hawk, and then Save.
Handmaiden Robe Super Bonus Cheat (from James P Chamberlin)
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When you gain multiple handmaiden's robes - don't break them down on the Ebon
Hawk - instead leave the ship go to any merchant to sell them. Instead of the
being listed as 1 item - I had them listed as 99 per handmaiden robe - Lot of
$$$! Or, if you want them broken down as components - again leave the ship
and go to a workbench - they're again 99 per handmaiden robe.
With this glitch I had over 3 million credits & 7,000 components! Cool huh?
Infinite Components the Bao-Dur Shield Way
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Bao-Dur can make you Energy and Mandalorian Melee Shields for free, which is
a plus. However, he only makes them if you don't have that many in your
inventory. So, on the Ebon Hawk, break down all Energy and Mandalorian Melee
Shields for components. Talk to Bao-Dur, get shields until he won't give
them, then break them down again. Repeat.
These shields aren't really worth it for money, and although you can do this
anywhere, the Ebon Hawk has a convenient Workbench nearby.
Bao-Dur stops giving you shields once your lightsaber is built.
Infinite Money, the Slow and Pazaakful way
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At Telos, if you beat Mebla Dule in the cantina at Pazaak 3 times in a row,
she'll give you her Double card and retire from Pazaak. Or so she says.
Ask her "questions" and she'll play you again. And at 40 credits a game,
you'll be raking in the creds... very, very slowly.
Infinite Dark Side Points
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Work for the Ithorians (normally a Light quest) and in the last mission you
do for them, you have to defend their base from Mercenaries. Go to the
Vivarium (plant room) and talk to Moza there. Ask for a reward, then tell
him to fend for himself for a DSP. This can be repeated forever.
Infinite Light/Dark Side Points (from Altizar)
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First, as long as you do not fail the persuading check you can repeat for
ever. Second, you can gain infinate light or dark side points as you wish.
> "What can you tell me about Datooine?"
> "What do you know of the ruins?"
> "Tell me about how the Enclave came to be ruined."
> "Sith invasion?"
This brings the memory overflow and the reset.
> "[Computer] Droid, run a self diagnostic and report."
> "[Repair] Fix the droid's memory unit."
This brings the old man running over asking if the droid called you a Jedi.
> "No, you must be mistaken."
Now you can persuade or force persuade (ends conversation)
> "[Persuade] The droid is obviously malfunctioning. Do i look like a Jedi?"
If you can succed you get more conversation options:
> "Why do you hate the Jedi?" - old man laughs at you
> "But the Jedi are the protectors of common folk like yourself." - LSP
> "Yes. I hate the Jedi too." - DSP
> "I'll be going now" - nothing
Now that the conversation is over, you can talk to the droid again and repeat
until either you get bored or fail the persuade check.
Kreia's Infinite Influence Bug
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When Visas joins, you can ask Kreia about what Visas did to your eyes. Now,
if you have less than 0 Computer Use, her lesson stops midway and can't be
completed. However, it still gives you the Influence bonus for starting the
lesson, and since you never finished it, you can do it again and again.
And again.
There is a second infinite influence bug here as well. If you have 16 INT
you can ask about Visas's home world, then use the INT options to follow
that dialogue and gain influence again and again.
Hanharr's Infinite Strength Bug (from HAMR)
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Once you complete the events on Nar Shaada (DS) and have Hanhaar in the party
it is possible to "break his will" eventually. I got all my influence with
him through conversations and basically did this to him immediately after
leaving GO-TO's ship and "completing" Nar Shaada.
There is a conversation string that involves his Life Debt. If you can get
him to give up his old customs (Kriea may chime in the first time - not sure)
he will get a permanant str +2 and a -2 to INT. You will also receive a
small amount of DS points for doing this. This is great to know if you are a
DS master and do some small good action unintentionally (like returning the
parts to the farmer on Dantooine in Khoonda for a reward) and get unwanted LS
points. This can be done repeatedly.
Gets better though - if you do this enough times - Hanhaar's INT will go
below zero. Except - it doesn't get stuck at 3 or go to a negative - it goes
to 255 or something! His STR also keeps increasing. It's infinite as far as
I know. It makes Hanhaar a complete combat damage beast (more than normal)
and gives him enough skills to compete with Bao-Dur. He's with me all the
time now.
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Bugs, Glitches and Other Terrors :FNBGS:
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Swoop Racing
Swoop Racing is broken in both Xbox and PC versions. In Xbox you can auto-
win any race by aiming for any obstacle, and using WHITE to abort the race
there, you hit the obstacle and WIN.
In PC, you can almost never win no matter what you do. At best you can get
second place, as when you get good enough to be first, it gives you an
error.
Bugged Powers (from J.T. Wilder)
There are a few well-known bugged powers. Probably the most notably bugged
power is the Force Aura line, which gives no defense bonus at any of it's
three levels... leaving it as a booster of saves. The Force Aura line is
effectively the biggest power "lemon". Force Speed also gives no defense
bonus, which makes the first tier less useful, but the extra attacks still
make it worthwhile.
Note: The 'burst of speed' and 'force aura' powers both seem to work
fine; the problem with them is that KotoR II seems to have an
enforced maximal defense cap that depends on the character level.
I tested this with my Weapons Master at character level 26 and 27,
respectively; at 26 my maximal possible defense was 38, at 27 my
maximal defense was 40. Since my defense without powers was already
at 34, the 'force aura' bonus didn't show up at level 26 (and I
thought it was broken), but at level 27 it did add +2 defense.
Then I removed all my equipment and tested again and, voila,
'speed' and 'aura' gave me the expected +10 defense.
(from Garwinfre)
Marauder's Fury line also suffers from slightly crippled upper tiers. Both
of the higher levels of "Fury" should grant an extra attack(s), however,
neither actually seem to. This is too bad, since it would've been a great
alternative to Master Speed for the armored Marauder type. It's also worth
noting that Marauder's Fury line is an exact mirror of Hanharr's Wookie
Frenzy line (in fact, Hanharr's rage effects will be listed under the
Marauder's skill names in the "Effects" tab). So, both Hanharr and
Marauders seem to lose there should-be special attacks. This is just
something to be aware of, since you receive these skills by default.
Also, while not a bug per se, those players who like to check the effects
tab may notice some fuzzy math when it comes to Sith Marauders receiving
damage. The Ignore Pain skills subtracts a set percentage from damage
received, a la "Improved Toughness", but while "Toughness 2" is listed as a
factor in damage breakdowns, ignore pain is not. Instead, the math seems
to be done correctly, but not listed... resulting in seemingly bad
calculations.
Glitch when Deleting Old Saves
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting old saved games from
characters that I started then abandoned, and using (X) to switch around
between them. When it got back to characters I had fully deleted such that
there were no more saves for them, it started acting odd. When I switched
back to my current character, the screenshots were all green, then the
Xbox froze.
Handmaiden Jedi Glitch
When you train Handmaiden to be a Jedi, you can sometimes get stuck on
Telos. You are NOT supposed to be on Telos yourself. This is supposed to
just be a cutscene with Atris. All you can do is reload and do it again.
Nar Shaddaa Glitch
Nar Shaddaa presents problems. Most can be solved by talking to Keelah-Nah
near the Cantina/Pazaak Den once, then again to set your reputation with
the Exchange. However, in some instances the cutscene that triggers to get
you the Comm Message is broken. If this happens, all you can do is reload
to before you cleared your ship of the Slavers, and try it again.
Modded Xbox Problems
I heard that modded Xboxes have trouble running KoTOR2 from the hard drive.
They'll freeze in a black screen when trying to load areas.
The game will lock up in the very beginning of the game, when you're
controlling T3 and he gets shot with an ion cannon. The screen goes black
and then just sits there. If you save and reload, you will play as the
Exile where T3 should be, and theres not much to do. If you use the
elevator, after the load screen, it reverts you back to T3, who's not able
to move. Simply popping the disc in will not fix it either. However, if you
save just before you use the terminal as T3, turn off the box, load 3
different games (actually load into the playable game and not just the menu
screen) it clears out the KOTOR2 cache from your box. Reload KOTOR2 from
the disc or the hdd (it doesnt matter) and load from the save point just
before the terminal, and it will get through the black screen no problem.
(from hash)
Dialogue Text Stuck On Screen ... Forever
While I was doing the Geeda/Nar Shaddaa merchant war quest, I talked to
Oondar twice in quick succession while he was vanishing. The line I said
at the end stuck to my screen until I reloaded out of it. It even appeared
in the START menus.
Dantooine, the Glitch (from Shoe)
After completed all the planets as a Light Side male Jedi Guardian, I went
to the rebuilt Enclave on Dantooine to meet with the Jedi masters. I chose
my ideal party of Handmaiden and Visas, and explored all the alcoves to get
loot, then saved the game before walking into the main area where the
masters awaited. After the annoying cutscene with Kreia, I found a DC 54
footlocker hidden in a dark room adjoining the master area. Security and
mines were no help, so I finally bashed it with a lightsaber and got two
life support packs and a stack of broken items. Thinking that the broken
item in such a high DC container must be major loot I was missing out on, I
reloaded the game to add T3 to the party.
Upon reloading, I found my Exile in the same spot, but in solo mode. I saw
that Handmaiden and Visas still stood by the entrance, although neither one
was shown as being in party. I left the Enclave area and added Handmaiden
and T3 to the party, then went back inside. To my surprise, there were now
two Handmaidens on screen, one in my party and the other still standing
where I left her. One could even talk to the other, although the Exile's
dialogue tree still came up. I put T3 in solo mode and sent him ahead to
open the footlocker, where I found another bug.
T3 went to the room, and even glimpsed the three masters standing off in
the distance. He was able to open the Footlocker easily, but to my
surprise, I got only the two life support packs. Whatever the "broken item"
was, it didn't exist when the footlocker was opened the proper way.
Assuming this was a bug, or that the real loot appeared only after the
masters cutscene played out, I sent T3 over to talk to them just to see
what would happen.
To my amazement, all three masters changed into dead bodies as soon as T3
clicked on one to speak, and the game played the Dark Side cutscene where
Kreia praises the Exile (who was still lying on the ground, but appeared
out of nowhere this time) for killing all the masters and Exile was awarded
Force Crush even though his Light Side points were maxed. The game then
segued into Brianna heading off to Telos with Kreia, but my entire
storyline had shifted from Light Side to Dark. I was able to reload and
complete the game as a normal Light Sider, but only if the Exile spoke to
the masters. Anyone else talking to them triggered the Dark Side cutscene
and plot shift.
Editor's Note: Dantooine is fairly buggy in any event, whether you get
the above glitch or not. I've heard many people get the
wrong side, the Masters appearing after being killed and
whatnot. I have no solution to any of this.
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PC Guide to Bugs, Flaws and Game Performance :PCFGP:
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Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
Guide to Bugs, Flaws, and Game performance
By Kevin Scully
lucano@email.com
I bought the game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
soon after its release for the PC. I'd played the first game avidly, and I
count it as one of the five best games I've ever played. When I began
playing, though, I noticed bugs in the game that surprised me, especially
after I began hearing from others who bought the game. My experience has been
a mostly smooth one, but as I talked to others, I heard of some bad problems.
I also noticed that some of the convenient features of the original KOTOR
were strangely missing.
What I believe happened is that Obsidian began development with the gold
version of KOTOR or perhaps even earlier. The post-release patches seem to
have never made it into the code. UPDATE: A Walk key is present in the game,
which was not present in the initial release of KOTOR. Some improvements have
clearly been made, but if any improvements were taken from a KOTOR 1 patch or
if they were all added in development, I cannot say.
I strongly advise everyone having problems to POLITELY email Lucasarts and
tell them in detail what bugs you're having. All support is routed through
Lucasarts as the publisher and they alone control authorization and approval
of a patch, even though Obsidian will be creating the patch. The more issues
we bring to their attention early on, with coherent explanations, the greater
the chances of them being fixed. This is my attempt to give a comprehensive
coverage of the issues pertaining to KOTOR 2 for all PC users. If I can
verify an issue, I will add it to my list, and if there is an error on this
page or an update which addresses the issue, I will make appropriate
corrections.
NOTES:
KOTOR 2 was NOT designed to run on laptop computers or older PCs. It requires
at a minimum a Windows PC with:
*A 1Ghz CPU (1.6Ghz recommended)
*Windows 98SE, ME, or 2000 (Windows XP recommended)
*DirectX 9.0c installed (included on the game CD)
*256Mb RAM (Lucasarts recommends 512Mb, I recommend 1024Mb.)
*A 32Mb video card with hardware T&L, AND *hardware* support of:
-OpenGL 1.3 or better(nVidia)
-OpenGL 1.4 or better(ATI)
*A 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card
*A 4x or better CD/DVD-ROM
*4 Gb of hard drive space
If your computer does not match at least the minimum requirements, I suggest
you save up for some upgrades. KOTOR isn't an extremely stressful game for a
PC, but it IS designed with little backwards compatibility for older systems.
Sorry. I've seen many frustrated people posting about their problems getting
the game working, only to find out that they're trying to get the game to
work on a laptop. I just want to save folks some stress ahead of time.
* Installing the game under Windows 2000/XP requires Administrator or Power
User Rights. Quoting from the game's Readme.txt: "If your computer is
running Windows 2000 or Windows XP, you will be unable to install STAR
WARS KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC II unless you are logged on with
Administrative or Power User Rights."
* The 1.0a patch currently out for KOTOR 2 is for international European
versions and contains NO game fixes. It replaces a corrupt manual PDF that
shipped with the game.
* Make CERTAIN your PC is stable and is running the latest drivers for your
motherboard, sound card, and video card. Many errors have been cleared up
that way. Also make sure your PC has adequate cooling and a quality power
supply. If your PC glitches, suddenly shuts down, or gets worse the longer
it's on, the problem is almost certainly inadequate cooling or insufficient
power.
-Good temperatures for your CPU are anything under 60 degrees
Celsius (140 degrees Fahrenheit). 50 Celsius (122 Fahrenheit) or lower
would be better. Higher than 60 C/140 F, you have problems.
-A modern PC bought within the last four years should have at least a
400 watt power supply, preferably one with a name brand. Modern
CPUs and video cards are hungry beasts and need all the power they
can get.
BUGS:
* Known Issue: Crashing to Desktop during extended play. Quoting from the
game's Readme.txt: "The game may freeze or crash to a blank screen if you
play in one level for extended periods of time. This was typically seen
when playing the game between thirty and forty minutes without
transitioning to a new level or movie. We recommend that you save the game
often to avoid losing progress if you encounter this issue." This one is
being worked on.
* Fix of 'warp' bug when saving. If the main character is moving at all when
you save or open the preferences screen, they can shoot forward as if they
never stopped moving. This happened also in the original KOTOR, but in the
original, it also happened in area transitions, which I haven't seen yet in
KOTOR 2.
* Pazaak bug on Telos: When you are taught Pazaak, it is impossible to click
'End Hand'. Normal Pazaak games do not have this problem.
* Music and movies that should not be unlocked yet are available in a new
game, causing plot spoilers.
* Cut scenes often cut abruptly, ignoring the last seconds of the cut scene
and obscuring in-game dialog immediately following. This issue did not
occur in KOTOR 1.
* Swoop racing is bugged, at least on Telos. Unless you beat the fastest race
record, the game tells you that you have beaten none of the track records.
You cannot win second, third or fourth places. The racing itself works
fine, but you can't win unless you're #1. UPDATE: Swoop racing DOES work
sometimes. I was able to load a save I made right before talking to the
race clerk and even though I was unable to set a record before, that time I
was recognized as a winner, was able to place third, my record remained,
and I was able to race for free as a record-holder. The next time I loaded
that save, I was NOT recognized as a winner, but I still placed second, my
record remained, and I was able to race for free as a record-holder.
* Many users with ATI cards report gamma problems with the game, their
desktop becoming very dark or light after exiting the game.
* Many users report missing glows and other light effects on ATI cards with
recent Catalyst drivers (4.12-5.2). UPDATE: Can someone please contact me
if they can take two screenshots, one with this effect present and one
without?
* The game is choppy and unplayable on Dantooine unless the Vertex Buffer
Objects=0 line is added to swkotor2.ini under [Graphics Options].
* Occasionally a character's lightsaber will get stuck 'on'. This can be
fixed by hitting tab to switch to the character and then hitting 'X' to
flourish the weapon. The lightsaber should extinguish properly and behave
from then on.
* Many users report being unable to start the game at all. Some have found
that disabling sound lets them start the game. You can do this by running
swconfig.exe which is found in your KOTOR 2 install directory. Or you can
edit the swkotor2.ini and change Disable Sound=0 to Disable Sound=1.
Others have reported that disabling movies or forcing software sound did
the trick.
FEATURE REQUESTS:
* Known Issue: The gear shift during swoop racing is set to left mouse button
and cannot be changed. Quoting from the game's Readme.txt: "The Gear Shift
function in the swoop race mini-game is set to the Left mouse button and
cannot be re-mapped. There is no setting for this function in the Key
Mapping options menu."
* Small Font option ala KOTOR 1. The font and UI are really huge at 800x600
and pretty big even at 1024x786 and 1280x960. 1600x1200 is decent.
* Please fix eyeballs and insides of mouth being visible through the skin of
holograms...it's disturbing. I don't remember KOTOR 1 doing this.
* Sharper Textures! The game looks blurry in places, even with Anisotropy set
high and AA set low. Having an option for users with high-end systems would
be nice. For an example, check out the texture on a protocol droid during a
conversation. It's very blocky and blurry.
* Music and movies that should not be unlocked yet are available from the
main menu in a new game, causing plot spoilers.
* Indicators for what effects a character is under, as in the original KOTOR,
would be VERY helpful. Example: In KOTOR 1, use of Adrenal Alacrity
causes an icon to appear in the Character Info screen, showing what
beneficial status is in effect. Currently only arrows appear in your
character portrait to show your character has an effect on, but not what
effect is present. No indicator appears in the Character Info screen in
KOTOR 2.
* An indicator that shows influence with a party member ala the Light/Dark
meter from the Character Info screen would be VERY helpful.
* An extra combat difficulty level for experienced players would make the
game more enjoyable. Combat in the game, even set to 'Difficult', is too
easy in many places for a lot of players.
* Add a Walk key. UPDATE: A walk key is present in the game and mapped to
'B' although the documentation does not mention it.
* You should be able to switch between upgrading and creating/breaking down
items at a workbench without leaving the workbench and using the workbench
again to get to the other option.
* Refresh rates of 100Hz, 120Hz, and higher should be allowed if the user's
monitor supports it at that resolution.
* Support of more resolutions would be appreciated. 640x480 (if a smaller
font and UI is implemented) would allow the game to display as it did on
XBox, especially for users using TVs as their display. Please allow the
game to use the full list of resolutions available to the user or allow
custom resolutions to be entered.
* Allowing resolutions to be changed in the Graphics preferences once the
game is loaded would be a nice though unnecessary feature.
* Despite what the manual states, there is no 'Transit' button in the Map
screen, as in the original KOTOR. This makes travel through the game
slightly more laborious. Adding that button or one which allows you to
travel to any 'map dot' would make for lots less pointless running around.
* The music in the game is encoded at very low quality (10Khz 48Kbit mono),
according to knowledgeable users. Can we please get high quality stereo or
surround mix music?
TIPS:
* On Dantooine or in smoky areas, the game can slow to a crawl. This can be
fixed by adding the line
Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
Under the [Graphics Options] section in the swkotor2.ini file. This
restores performance to normal levels and once again makes Dantooine
playable.
* If you're having frame buffer issues (glows around light sources and
lightsabers not working) on ATI cards, you can either replace the
atioglxx.dll with one from the 4.2 - 4.11 range of Catalysts, or if you
don't care about the effects and just want to improve performance, you can
disable Frame Buffer Effects in the game preferences.
* Turn off Soft Shadows on all ATI cards..it's a massive FPS hit, even on
X800 series cards. Not sure if there is a bug or if the hardware is not
optimized for the effect.
* To reduce the FPS hit in busy or smoky areas, reduce or disable AA, and for
ATI users, if possible, enable Temporal AA for higher/equal quality
graphics at a lower performance cost.
* Do NOT alt-tab away from the game if you can help it. Obsidian and
Lucasarts officially label the game as 'unstable' if you do so, and I've
confirmed this. I can have 70 FPS, alt-tab away, and come back to find the
game locked into 2 or 3 FPS until I quit and restart the game. I advise
quick-saving, quitting, and then doing what you need before restarting the
game.
* If you DO find the game becoming choppy, reset the graphics engine by
disabling/enabling Frame Buffer Effects or changing the levels of AA or
Anisotropy. This should allow you to play at normal speed again.
* If you miss part of a cut scene, you can play it back by quitting and
playing it from the main menu.
* Reducing the number of 2D/3D voices under [Sound Options] in swkotor2.ini
seems to make movie playback smoother. I reduced mine from 59/64 to 24/32.
* If you have gamma problems, right now the only fix is to open your video
preferences and reset it after/during the game.
* The game will load quicker if you rename the files leclogo.bik and
ObsidianEnt.bik in the Movies directory, then create empty text files with
those names. Changing the line Disable Intro Movies=0 or the line Disable
Movies=0 in swkotor2.ini under [Video Options] seem to have no effect, as
movies will still play if you set either to 1.
* NOTE: Mobility Radeon 7500 or other video chipsets supporting less than
OpenGL 1.4(ATI) or 1.3(nVidia) WILL NOT WORK with KOTOR 2. The
game was designed using these functions, and it will either run erratically
or not at all.
* Camera feeds and comlinks (video during a conversation with a party member
not in the current party) will not display if you turn off Frame Buffer
Effects. Quoting from the game's Readme.txt: "The camera filters for camera
feeds and comlinks require frame buffer effects. Because of this, camera
feeds and comlinks will not display when frame buffer effects are
disabled."
THANKS:
I would like to thank the fine folks at:
Rage3D - http://www.rage3d.com
DriverHeaven - http://www.driverheaven.net
Obsidian Entertainment - http://www.obsidianent.com
For providing helpful thoughtful discussion on their forums about these
issues and how to solve them.
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Creatable Items (Lab Station Only) :CILSO:
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With complete thanks to Falconhurst, who compiled the list. The Skill shows
what amount of Treat Injury you need to make the item. Chemicals is how
many chemicals to make the item.
Item Skill Chems Bonuses
Medpack 1 20
Adv Medpack 10 40
Life Support 20 75
Antidote Kit 5 24
Implant
CON12 implants
Reflex Package 8 17 Reflex saves +1
Pheromone Package 17 150 CHA +1, Persuade +1
Cardio Package 26 450 CON +1
Strength Package 35 850 STR +1
CON 14 implants
Retinal Combat 5 37 awareness +1, immune to critical hits
Lornan 18 150 10% electricity immunity, 5% energy immunity
Biotech 27 450 regenerate vitality points 1
Power 36 850 STR+2, fortitude +1
CON 16 implants
Bioantidote 10 37 CON+1, immunity to poison
Nerve enhancer 19 150 stun, fear, horror immunity
Reaction system 28 450 DEX+3
Advanced combat 37 850 Attack +1, blaster pistol& rifle weapon
focus &weapon specialization
CON 18 implants
Strength-D 11 37 STR+1, CON+1
Immunity-D 20 150 immune to critical hits, poison, stun, fear,
horror
Perception-D 29 450 WIS+2, CHA+1
Enhancement-D 38 850 dueling, improved dueling, master dueling,
two weapon fighting (TWF), improved TWF,
master TWF
Required implant CON requires natural CON without item modification or other
bonuses (force mastery, force powers).
There is no way to make Universal-D implants or other high-end implants.
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This FAQ was written entirely using the GWD Text Editor: (shareware)
http://www.gwdsoft.com/
Special Thanks To:
John Mills for Dark Side Mastery for Sith Lords
Mike Ware sent in an INF for Bao-Dur when giving the open visa to the spy
Travis Roy sent in an infinite money trick
Justin Riggle for the Dark Side Mastery bonus for Sith Assassins
JJ and TennisBoy for the tip to equip the "Dark Side" crystal with "YOUR"
Crystal for lightsided Jedi
Lee Wallace for a lightsided way to take out the infinite Hssiss
Steven K. Snyder for the Prologue item keeping trick
Ian Patterson for information on the false Batu quest
Joe Blog tells of an increased bonus at Dantooine
Kurt S for some error corrections
James Uson for a cheat on Nar Shaddaa
Astrakan added some ideas to the High Stakes sidequest on Telos
JorDan for a correction on Masteries
Steve Tollefson for an error correction on Handmaiden's mother
Arthur Doten for an alternative to entering the Pazaak Den.
jhardy for telling me that you can recruit Suulru to the militia
J.T. Wilder for the powers bugs
DDays corrected a glaring error in my weapon fighting styles analysis
Andrew Ngo for telling me about Odis piloting for the Lunar Shadow
Darren Mckenzie pointed out that you can Force Persuade The Champ
Eric Stroeh for his tip on Mining Doors/Containers
HAMR for the Infinite Hanharr Strength bug/cheat
TE Whalen for information on the Atmospheric Sensors sidequest
Roger Pruitt for his Super Saber cheat
Altizar for an infinite light/dark side point cheat
Ryan Godfrey for some Dantooine dark side points
HolyBomb for suggesting not to overload the droids in the Old Military Base
JazzAss helped refresh the Frequently Asked Questions section
Eric Baker mentioned that Handmaiden spars at levels 10, 14 and 18
David P. for the break down of shields idea
Finn Lohner for pointing out that Chodo will give you 2500 for Odo
David Pidcock for his post-dialogue buffing strategy
Colin Crippen for a Handmaiden Influence
Mark Walker for correcting my math on Critical Strike
Scott Bickford for pointing out you can add party members with Azkul
Happywalrus for his total defense strategy
Dean Li for a Handmaidens battle strategy
Userunfriendly for a Power Attack strategy
hash for the specifics on modded Xbox problems
Dr. Love for an infinite Handmaiden influence exploit
Mark Lovato for another infinite experience exploit
Mark P Chamberlin for the best Handmaiden robe cheat yet
Saedar Knyghtmoon and...
Kathryn Garcia for another infinite XP exploit on Dantooine
Falconhurst for information on Kreia's Alignment & the Lab Station Items
Garwinfre for rebutting the Force Aura/Speed bug
tinytroll for the T3 trick in the prologue
Danijel for a note on force regenerating in the Cave on Korriban
Andrew C. Blevins for a note on B-4D4
sonicandfffan for the Heal/Attack glitch
GameFAQs, for finding this a home
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0.1 January 3, 2005 62k
First version. Finished the FAQ section, Exile section, Puzzle section and
made progress in Companions and Cheats. Walkthrough isn't even started yet.
0.2 January 4, 2005 156k
Started filling in the walkthrough, currently almost finished with the
Peragus section. Filled in the Puzzles section a bit better. Added new
questions to the FAQ. John Mills sent in the Dark Side Mastery bonus for
Sith Lords.
0.3 January 5, 2005 207k
Added the Infinite money trick from Travis Roy. Justin Riggle sent in the
Dark Side Mastery bonus for Sith Assassins. Added a note that adds the
fact that you can upgrade a lightsaber with both the Dark Side crystal
from Onderon and "YOUR" Crystal even when lightsided. Created a new section
for some "Power" strategies. Created a new section for Bugs. Added more
questions to the FAQ. Filled in the walkthrough up to Telos.
0.4 January 6, 2005 257k
Worked mostly on the walkthrough, which is now finished up through Telos
Citadel Station. Lee Wallace sent in an addition to the infinite Hssiss
fighting trick, for Lightsiders. Added a question to the FAQ and some other
changes as well.
0.5 January 7, 2005 318k
Added Steven K. Snyder's trick for keeping items from the Prologue.
Accidentally left out the last of the Ithorian missions last time. Oops.
Also didn't have time to do maps or dialogues for Telos, which are now in.
Now Telos-Citadel is complete! Telos-Planetside is complete! Telos-Hidden
Base is complete! Added a new question to the FAQ. Some other small
changes.
0.6 January 10, 2005 443k
Finally started filling in the Power Strategies, and some more Cheats.
Astrakan sent in a good idea about the High Stakes subquest, so that
was re-written a bit. Began filling in the Leveling up your Characters
section. Filled in some of the Prestige Classes. Added some number blocks
for the main Jedi classes, and the Prestige Classes that I have. Added a
new section for the Ebon Hawk in the walkthrough, but it's mostly
dialogues. Filled in the Dantooine section, except for some Light Sided
parts. Began the Nar Shaddaa section. Some other small updates, I'm sure.
0.7 January 11, 2005 500k
Added the Kreia Infinite Influence Bug to the cheats section. Filled in the
missing dialogues for Kreia and Handmaiden. Rewrote one of the FAQ. Added
an alternative from Arthur Doten to entering the Pazaak Den. Added more
Questions to the FAQ. Added another Power Strategy. Added J.T. Wilder's
bugged powers to the bugs list. Figured out a way to keep doubled
lightsabers, so fixed that cheat. Got the walkthrough about halfway through
Nar Shaddaa. Some small clarifications.
0.8 January 12, 2005 574k
Finished filling in the Prestige Class subsection in the Developing your
Character section. Filled in more of the Handmaiden dialogue, in the Ebon
Hawk section of the walkthrough. Corrected some mistakes in my analysis of
the weapon fighting styles (thanks to DDays). Also added a way to
regenerate Force Points from DDays in Cheats. Added to the Companions
section, Mira, and how to turn Bao-Dur to a Jedi. Got the walkthrough up to
the end of Nar Shaddaa. Nar Shaddaa still needs dialogue maps for Mira and
Hanharr before it can be called complete, and Dantooine still needs some
light side notes before it can be called complete.
0.81 January 14, 2005 615k
Started filling in the Mira dialogue. Created the new "Post Nar Shaddaa
Ebon Hawk" section in the walkthrough to hold dialogues for Mira, HK-47,
Hanharr and G0-T0. Filled in some missing information in the FAQ section.
Mapped out Goto's yacht. Added the last of the companions to that section.
Added the Hanharr Infinite Strength Bug to the Cheats section, from HAMR.
Moved a chunk of information out of the "Notes" and into its own section at
the beginning called "Before you Start Playing..." Bunches of other small
things, corrections and whatnot. Added the quick navigation feature to the
ToC.
0.83 January 17, 2005 649k
Cleaned up and improved the Companions section a bit. TE Whalen added some
info to the Atmosphere Sensors sidequest. Added a question to the FAQ.
Changed email addresses. Added Roger Pruitt's cool "super saber" cheat.
Added Altizar's infinite light/dark side points cheat. Ryan Godfrey sent
in a way to send the Dantooine mercenary to his death by stealing his
Kinrath gland. Finished/Polished the Dantooine and Nar Shaddaa areas.
0.9 January 19, 2005 742k
Added Atton's Infinite Airspeeder Influence thingie from Andrew Ngo.
Added Mandalore to the Companions section. Wrote out the Onderon section in
the walkthrough. Updated some of the Questions in the FAQ (with some
thanks to JazzAss), and added a couple new Questions. Mapped out the
Hanharr dialogue in Post Nar Shaddaa Ebon Hawk. Wrote out the Korriban
section in the walkthrough. Some changes to format, such as removing the
"overscore" character, which sometimes gets garbled. Other additions and
corrections as well.
1.0 January 23, 2005 811k
Added yet another thing on Critical Strike and Flurry in the developing
your character section, hopefully this puts that to bed. Added a new XP
exploit from Ryan Godfrey. Filled in the Onderon Finale, Dantooine (again),
Telos - Hidden Base (again), Telos - Citadel Station (again) sections,
Ravager and Malachor sections. Thus, the walkthrough is complete. Found out
how many force points all the classes get per level, so I added that in.
Version 1.1 January 25, 2005 813k
Added a couple new strategies, saving Mira's levels (in the walkthrough)
and post-dialogue buff-ups (in the power strategies), from David Pidcock.
Added a Handmaiden Influence from Colin Crippen.
Version 1.2 February 12, 2005 832k
Changed a note to say that you can change party members with Azkul (from
Scott Bickford). Added the Total Defensive character build from
Happywalrus. Updated the Handmaidens battle on Telos with a tip from
Dean Li. Added a power strategy on Power Attack from Userunfriendly. Added
the specifics on the modded Xbox problems from hash. Added an infinite
influence exploit to the Cheats section from Dr. Love. Added yet another
infinite experience cheat from Mark Lovato. Mark P Chamberlin sent in a
big cheat on Handmaiden robes.
Version 1.3 March 11, 2005 862k
Added the Dantooine Crystal Cave Kinrath cheat. Cleared up the walkthrough
at the very end, corrected my MAJOR mistake there and added an ending
spoiler for the curious. Added Mark Singer's Super-Uber-Ultra Sabre Cheat.
Added a question to the FAQ about returning to Dantooine and not getting
that to work. Added a note on buggy Swoop racing in the Glitches section.
Created a new section on creatable items. Added tinytroll's T3 trick in
the prologue section. Added Danijel's note on Force regen in the Cave on
Korriban. Added Andrew C. Blevins note on B-4D4. Added Kevin Scully's PC
Bugs information in its own section. Added the Kreia/Hanharr upgrade from
Gary Smith. Added the Heal/Attack at the same time glitch/cheat.
Stinger
Mira: Back off, wormhead, this bounty's mine. Don't do something you might
regret. There's soldiers all over this place.
HK-47: Interjection: Yes, it would be unfortunate if the casual display of
weapons were to escalate into a city-wide firefight, resulting in
scores of meatbag casualties.
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